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  • Anybody here miss football  ?  or other sports ⚾  or anything besides DW trying to figure out if Bill Cosby is really his Dada?   

    Anything but this neverending stuff.....and he might still be the BROWNS starting quarterback.   😳.    Dada ?

  • And The media has already convicted him.  
     

    And the masses as usual are just eating it up.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    And The media has already convicted him.  
     

    And the masses as usual are just eating it up.  

     
    After months of slanted coverage bashing Deshaun Watson, Florio/PFT reporting today on a "leak" of what his very compelling argument would be in appealing any suspension.
    Seems they might be bracing for no suspension to be issued with this pre-emptive explanation of why. #Browns

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    cutting to the chase...( Watson's best witness, maybe his phone text messages)  

    Even with the allegations of the new 24th accuser and additional anonymous sources quoted in these reports,

    the fact remains that only two or three of these accusers are even alleging any actual physical contact at all.

    And even these don’t include any allegations of rape or violence. Even if one were to believe all of the allegations against Watson, the most you have is that he was a sex addict or sex pest who was aggressive about trying to pay “masseuses” for sex. 

    long.. but ..parts are believable https://www.clevelandfrowns.com/2022/06/tony-buzbees-smear-campaign-against-deshaun-watson-is-becoming-increasingly-desperate-and-transparent/ 

    prepare for a bumpy ride ? up until training camp

      edit---took MKC all of 36 minutes since post..   https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/06/nflpa-bracing-for-unprecedented-discipline-of-deshaun-watson-but-prepared-to-vigorously-fight-it-per-report.html

  • It's almost like both grand juries which didn't find enough evidence to indict even though they were each empaneled solely for this case ... did their job correctly.

    Also, Watson is the reason Clowney resigned.

  • @westside-steve said:

    He makes a good point the other owners don’t like us and will probably not politic or advocate for us no matter the lack of evidence.  I kind of expected that - but I guess what goes around comes around.


    I have a doctor. I have a dentist. I’ve gotten a dozen massages in the past five years.  I’ve had 12 different massage therapist. Some where great and some were bad.  I imagine some of the therapist are in another line of business or in another locale. If I was into massages a little more I may have three times the number on each account.   
     

    And “No closure in sight” is that what a handful of NFL teams thought?  as if two grand juries heard nothing. 

  • I personally hope he never takes one snap for us... Hes a garbage human being who is selfish... And cares about nothing but his pee pee

  • I personally hope he never takes one snap for us... Hes a garbage human being who is selfish... And cares about nothing but his pee pee

    @nickers said:

    I personally hope he never takes one snap for us... Hes a garbage human being who is selfish... And cares about nothing but his pee pee

    I agree, but the 800 lb gorilla in the room is his guaranteed contract and lost draft picks.

    Haslam set this franchise back a few years with this bone headed move.

  • @orion said:

    He only has to lead them enough so that they can run under it and catch it.  And then make good decisions with the football.  If he can do that, then nothing else will matter while they're between the white lines.

    Until that time, stuff has to play out.

    The Watson storyline is just gross, but lets stop with the "how can he lead men" narrative.

    I never heard this once uttered when the previous starting QB was running from the police or cheating on his brand-new wife. 

    I think NFL players are well aware that many of their contemporaries are shady individuals. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Watson storyline is just gross, but lets stop with the "how can he lead men" narrative.

    I never heard this once uttered when the previous starting QB was running from the police or cheating on his brand-new wife. 

    I think NFL players are well aware that many of their contemporaries are shady individuals. 

    I think that's exactly the case. They (the players) don't give a s***. The public the fans Etc are probably shocked and that's who the league has to worry about it because they're the ones that pay the bills.

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The Watson storyline is just gross, but lets stop with the "how can he lead men" narrative.

    I never heard this once uttered when the previous starting QB was running from the police or cheating on his brand-new wife. 

    I think NFL players are well aware that many of their contemporaries are shady individuals. 

    I think that's exactly the case. They (the players) don't give a s***. The public the fans Etc are probably shocked and that's who the league has to worry about it because they're the ones that pay the bills.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I think that's exactly the case. They (the players) don't give a s***. The public the fans Etc are probably shocked and that's who the league has to worry about it because they're the ones that pay the bills.

    WSS

    Yeah the League will lose its stranglehold on professional sports entertainment over a guy that they failed to indict (twice). 
     

    Im shocked that people drink excessively but have the means to have a driver or call an Uber yet put the safety of everyone in their path at risk with the selfish move.  They get caught pay a fine and have a suspended license most will not lose their job (but you and I may) and they get slapped on the wrist suspended three games by the NFL.   Imagine all the NFL fans out there that were at one time maybe directly impacted by similar selfish drunk driving acts.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    I think that's exactly the case. They (the players) don't give a s***. The public the fans Etc are probably shocked and that's who the league has to worry about it because they're the ones that pay the bills.

    WSS

    Yeah the League will lose its stranglehold on professional sports entertainment over a guy that they failed to indict (twice). 
     

    Im shocked that people drink excessively but have the means to have a driver or call an Uber yet put the safety of everyone in their path at risk with the selfish move.  They get caught pay a fine and have a suspended license most will not lose their job (but you and I may) and they get slapped on the wrist suspended three games by the NFL.   Imagine all the NFL fans out there that were at one time maybe directly impacted by similar selfish drunk driving acts.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah the League will lose its stranglehold on professional sports entertainment over a guy that they failed to indict (twice). 
     

    Im shocked that people drink excessively but have the means to have a driver or call an Uber yet put the safety of everyone in their path at risk with the selfish move.  They get caught pay a fine and have a suspended license most will not lose their job (but you and I may) and they get slapped on the wrist suspended three games by the NFL.   Imagine all the NFL fans out there that were at one time maybe directly impacted by similar selfish drunk driving acts.  

    Sir if Watson's behavior doesn't bother you that's fine with me. And it really doesn't have much to do with the grand jury. Plenty of great performers had their careers ruined for less. Most people want the face of the franchise to be somebody they can look up to and respect. Some guys don't care. Personally I'm going to hold my nose and try to keep rooting for my team. In a perfect world he gets suspended for an entire season, they start Mayfield and go to the SB. Then again in a perfect world Jennifer Aniston would be my date for the game.

    It's like that deal with the devil story. You know the kind, you wish for a million dollars and your wife is killed and you get the insurance money. Somebody wished to go to a Superbowl and the way there is by signing this scumbag.

    Speaking of DUI one of the Saints just got suspended for three games.

    WSS

  • saw on the news - the nfl is pushing for a serious suspension length... not sure how anyone knew that.

  • saw on the news - the nfl is pushing for a serious suspension length... not sure how anyone knew that.

    @calfoxwc said:

    saw on the news - the nfl is pushing for a serious suspension length... not sure how anyone knew that.

    Yeah they're talking 1 full season. 

    The NFLPA is really opposed to that.  

  • @calfoxwc said:

    saw on the news - the nfl is pushing for a serious suspension length... not sure how anyone knew that.

    Yeah they're talking 1 full season. 

    The NFLPA is really opposed to that.  

    @mjp28 said:

    Yeah they're talking 1 full season. 

    The NFLPA is really opposed to that.  

    I'm sure Fritz Pollard Alliance won't be too thrilled either...

  • Let's say he's suspended for the season.  Do you then go after Jimmy G?  Or just go to the bullpen for the current Watson clones on the team and play out the season?

    I kinda' figure that we're built to win now...and if you could get Jimmy as a one year mercenary...perhaps you salvage a respectable season.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Yeah they're talking 1 full season. 

    The NFLPA is really opposed to that.  

    I'm sure Fritz Pollard Alliance won't be too thrilled either...

    @nickers said:

    I'm sure Fritz Pollard Alliance won't be too thrilled either...

    Is that the concensus at your meetings of white hood wearing compatriots? 

  • Let's say he's suspended for the season.  Do you then go after Jimmy G?  Or just go to the bullpen for the current Watson clones on the team and play out the season?

    I kinda' figure that we're built to win now...and if you could get Jimmy as a one year mercenary...perhaps you salvage a respectable season.

    @orion said:

    Let's say he's suspended for the season.  Do you then go after Jimmy G?  Or just go to the bullpen for the current Watson clones on the team and play out the season?

    I kinda' figure that we're built to win now...and if you could get Jimmy as a one year mercenary...perhaps you salvage a respectable season.

    Why not?

    I'd like to see the Browns be the first team to spend nearly $100 mill on quarterbacks in one season. ?

  • But we wouldn't have to pay Watson if he's suspended right?  His contract just pushes out to next year I would assume.  Guaranteed monies or not.  I mean, we've experienced this with Josh Gordon. 

  • But we wouldn't have to pay Watson if he's suspended right?  His contract just pushes out to next year I would assume.  Guaranteed monies or not.  I mean, we've experienced this with Josh Gordon. 

    @orion said:

    But we wouldn't have to pay Watson if he's suspended right?  His contract just pushes out to next year I would assume.  Guaranteed monies or not.  I mean, we've experienced this with Josh Gordon. 

    I won't pretend to know the ins and outs of player contracts, the salary cap, etc...

    And sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus, at this point we might as well fast forward to the point where Watson gets released from the Browns and the front office and coaching staff gets fired.

    Because it is going to be the inevitable ending to this move. 

  • But we wouldn't have to pay Watson if he's suspended right?  His contract just pushes out to next year I would assume.  Guaranteed monies or not.  I mean, we've experienced this with Josh Gordon. 

    @orion said:

    But we wouldn't have to pay Watson if he's suspended right?  His contract just pushes out to next year I would assume.  Guaranteed monies or not.  I mean, we've experienced this with Josh Gordon. 

    Best case scenario BROWNS get out from under the  DW contract, make a great trade for BM and start an OK backup quarterback and finish over .500, maybe get a wildcard playoff spot. 

    Worse case scenario everything else.  😕