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  • Good points on the league doing essentially nothing to errant owners who in theory have higher standards of conduct to meet than players. Even if standards are the same, it would be blatantly wrong to treat Watson worse than they treat owners.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Good points on the league doing essentially nothing to errant owners who in theory have higher standards of conduct to meet than players. Even if standards are the same, it would be blatantly wrong to treat Watson worse than they treat owners.

    Thank you it defies logic and reason but let’s beat the drum for one year or indefinite and beyond and let’s go nuclear and void a trade 

  • Let's all enjoy the fact that the second county convening the grand jury to investigate criminal charges against Watson is named Brazzers.

    Excuse me, Brazoria.

    The other was Harris County, which you may know as Houston.  Brazoria is south of houston & west of Galveston.

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  • Not condoning what Watson has allegedly done but why did Ben the Stooler only have a 4 game suspension, when we are looking at a whole year, or more for Watson?

  • Not condoning what Watson has allegedly done but why did Ben the Stooler only have a 4 game suspension, when we are looking at a whole year, or more for Watson?

    @kennel-club said:

    Not condoning what Watson has allegedly done but why did Ben the Stooler only have a 4 game suspension, when we are looking at a whole year, or more for Watson?

    Here's my prediction:

    He gets suspended for the entire season, the union gets it knocked down to 8 games. 

    Which is what most of us expected when they signed him the day after St. Pats Day. 

  • If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

  • If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    Of course he's not innocent but his attorneys aren't stupid. And neither are the attorneys for the women. Every case was a coin flip meaning you get ten times what you were asking for or Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah.

    WSS

  • @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    Of course he's not innocent but his attorneys aren't stupid. And neither are the attorneys for the women. Every case was a coin flip meaning you get ten times what you were asking for or Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Of course he's not innocent but his attorneys aren't stupid. And neither are the attorneys for the women. Every case was a coin flip meaning you get ten times what you were asking for or Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah.

    WSS

    Many of the wealthy and corporations settle suits so that the plaintiff goes away. You believe everyone or company who settles is guilty of the offense?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Of course he's not innocent but his attorneys aren't stupid. And neither are the attorneys for the women. Every case was a coin flip meaning you get ten times what you were asking for or Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah.

    WSS

    Many of the wealthy and corporations settle suits so that the plaintiff goes away. You believe everyone or company who settles is guilty of the offense?

    @laiccm said:

    Many of the wealthy and corporations settle suits so that the plaintiff goes away. You believe everyone or company who settles is guilty of the offense?

    That has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that he most likely but that the chicks that he did it to are exaggerating their traumatic experiences.

    WSS

  • If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    Well, if you look at the criminal aspect regarding guilt he is "innocent", because they could not get a grand jury to indict any criminal charges. And this was tried in 2 counties. However, having been part of the legal machine for 25+ years settlements are common even tho innocence is claimed just to offset legal fees in most cases. Im in no way saying he is innocent, but if they couldn't indict in a grand jury you have to believe that there was no evidence or very little of any criminal acts.

  • @laiccm said:

    Many of the wealthy and corporations settle suits so that the plaintiff goes away. You believe everyone or company who settles is guilty of the offense?

    That has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that he most likely but that the chicks that he did it to are exaggerating their traumatic experiences.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    That has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that he most likely but that the chicks that he did it to are exaggerating their traumatic experiences.

    WSS

    Exactamundo Steve. The reports were some of these ahem, "masseuses" were paid as little as $100 bucks. We probably will never know what they're getting out of this settlement, but you can bet the ranch it's way more than $100. Add a few more zeroes on- at least. 

    The remaining four holdouts are undoubtedly asking for more. Whether it will ever make it to court will depend on their asking price to make their hurt feelings better. As you opined, they're taking a risk that they could wind up with nothing.  

  • @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    Well, if you look at the criminal aspect regarding guilt he is "innocent", because they could not get a grand jury to indict any criminal charges. And this was tried in 2 counties. However, having been part of the legal machine for 25+ years settlements are common even tho innocence is claimed just to offset legal fees in most cases. Im in no way saying he is innocent, but if they couldn't indict in a grand jury you have to believe that there was no evidence or very little of any criminal acts.

    @5150k9 said:

    Well, if you look at the criminal aspect regarding guilt he is "innocent", because they could not get a grand jury to indict any criminal charges. And this was tried in 2 counties. However, having been part of the legal machine for 25+ years settlements are common even tho innocence is claimed just to offset legal fees in most cases. Im in no way saying he is innocent, but if they couldn't indict in a grand jury you have to believe that there was no evidence or very little of any criminal acts.

    True - it's "he said, all the women said", there isn't that much evidence that convicts, even though there would be appt schedules, etc etc.  The other four - were refusing to settle - which led to him not being a MIami dolphin.

    I hope he gets suspended for two years, and they trade Baker to the Panthers. I would go in person to watch that game.... (it's away).

  • @5150k9 said:

    Well, if you look at the criminal aspect regarding guilt he is "innocent", because they could not get a grand jury to indict any criminal charges. And this was tried in 2 counties. However, having been part of the legal machine for 25+ years settlements are common even tho innocence is claimed just to offset legal fees in most cases. Im in no way saying he is innocent, but if they couldn't indict in a grand jury you have to believe that there was no evidence or very little of any criminal acts.

    True - it's "he said, all the women said", there isn't that much evidence that convicts, even though there would be appt schedules, etc etc.  The other four - were refusing to settle - which led to him not being a MIami dolphin.

    I hope he gets suspended for two years, and they trade Baker to the Panthers. I would go in person to watch that game.... (it's away).

    @calfoxwc said:

    True - it's "he said, all the women said", there isn't that much evidence that convicts, even though there would be appt schedules, etc etc.  The other four - were refusing to settle - which led to him not being a MIami dolphin.

    I hope he gets suspended for two years, and they trade Baker to the Panthers. I would go in person to watch that game.... (it's away).

    I hope they suspend your  drivers license if you EVER get caught doing ONE thing wrong!! This is a money grab by the women and their attorney! Did adult things happen YES! Nothing and I mean NOTHING came out until Deshaun asked for a trade out of Houston!!! DING! DING!! DING!!!! LIGHTBULB!!!! RED FLAG!!! CAL stop throwing the guy under the BUS! unless your middle name is Jesus and are perfect....blame away! WE ALL FALL SHORT!!

    GO BROWNS!!!!

  • @calfoxwc said:

    True - it's "he said, all the women said", there isn't that much evidence that convicts, even though there would be appt schedules, etc etc.  The other four - were refusing to settle - which led to him not being a MIami dolphin.

    I hope he gets suspended for two years, and they trade Baker to the Panthers. I would go in person to watch that game.... (it's away).

    I hope they suspend your  drivers license if you EVER get caught doing ONE thing wrong!! This is a money grab by the women and their attorney! Did adult things happen YES! Nothing and I mean NOTHING came out until Deshaun asked for a trade out of Houston!!! DING! DING!! DING!!!! LIGHTBULB!!!! RED FLAG!!! CAL stop throwing the guy under the BUS! unless your middle name is Jesus and are perfect....blame away! WE ALL FALL SHORT!!

    GO BROWNS!!!!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    I hope they suspend your  drivers license if you EVER get caught doing ONE thing wrong!! This is a money grab by the women and their attorney! Did adult things happen YES! Nothing and I mean NOTHING came out until Deshaun asked for a trade out of Houston!!! DING! DING!! DING!!!! LIGHTBULB!!!! RED FLAG!!! CAL stop throwing the guy under the BUS! unless your middle name is Jesus and are perfect....blame away! WE ALL FALL SHORT!!

    GO BROWNS!!!!

    Dodge? Chrysler? lol.

    he didn't do just one thing. 26. and a ticket for speeding, etc is hardly comparable to what he was doing. He brought it on to himself - paying that many women to come to his fancy hotel room - from around the country, who were not even certified, licenses massotherapists. I don't care what he did, I care that the stupidass browns brought him on board, with a giant historical guaranteed contract and all those draft picks.......I hope he gets suspended for two years. Maybe even ten. lol

  • If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    If he was guilty, I wonder why he "wasn't indicted".. 

    The standard for evidence at the grand jury stage is to assume everything presented is 100% true.  And even with that they got nothing.

  • If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    I’m normally even keeled but Sorry you have no clue 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    Well, if you look at the criminal aspect regarding guilt he is "innocent", because they could not get a grand jury to indict any criminal charges. And this was tried in 2 counties. However, having been part of the legal machine for 25+ years settlements are common even tho innocence is claimed just to offset legal fees in most cases. Im in no way saying he is innocent, but if they couldn't indict in a grand jury you have to believe that there was no evidence or very little of any criminal acts.

    @5150k9 said:

    Im in no way saying he is innocent, but if they couldn't indict in a grand jury you have to believe that there was no evidence or very little of any criminal acts.

    Which begs the question, if he’s innocent what is the compelling factor to settle out of court?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    I’m normally even keeled but Sorry you have no clue 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I’m normally even keeled but Sorry you have no clue 

    66 women and the Non Disclosure Agreements should be your first clue.

    If this sounds normal to you, then I’m not the only clueless individual on this board.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    If he was innocent, I wonder why he had to “settle” the cases against him? ?

    If he was guilty, I wonder why he "wasn't indicted".. 

    The standard for evidence at the grand jury stage is to assume everything presented is 100% true.  And even with that they got nothing.

    @unsympathetic said:

    If he was guilty, I wonder why he "wasn't indicted".. 

    The standard for evidence at the grand jury stage is to assume everything presented is 100% true.  And even with that they got nothing.

    Again, if he’s innocent…why pay up? ?