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  • Judges look at rules and precedent.  One would hope that Florio’s outrage isn’t factored into the equation 

    From the Personal Conduct Policy (this is what appears to be a sentencing guideline by the way):

    “Ownership and club or league management have traditionally been held to a higher standard and will be subject to more significant discipline when violations of the Personal Conduct Policy occur.'"

    So this decision SHOULD have an impact moving forward when Jerry, Jimmy, Robert or anyone else fall out of line.  So no BS later when they are in front of the judge.
     

    And if Watson is gone for a year or more what does that say about fines or penalties moving forward?  If Watson and the Browns are going to be the example apply it Every freaking time moving forward and hit the owners and management harder or redraft and approve new policies…. it is as simple as that. 
     

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    You use very resentful words when you describe him, which is your prerogative. Honest question though: why?

    He used the services of seemingly cheap and sleazy masseuses. Is that enough to be so resentful? Do you know any of them personally? Is it getting tugs and paying for them? It seems likely tugs were offered to him, which I believe makes it a crime committed by the masseuse under Texas law. If there was any evidence he solicited them, the criminal cases against him wouldn't have been thrown out. Historically, juries in the south are quite gung ho about convicting black men, so there must really be no shred of evidence. 

    None of the actual facts known offend me, nor do they prevent my from wanting him on the team. If anything, I am seeing him more and more as a victim of a questionable legal system, and media witch hunt. My major gripe with him at this point is that he wasn't smart enough to do things 'right.' He should have gotten his massages from actual sports massage professionals. I am sure he would have been able to find one both qualified and attractive, if these were both requirements. And for tugs or equivalent I am sure Texas or neighboring states have their Heidi Fleiss who could offer those services discretely, and by women highly unlikely to get second thoughts about providing them.

    Yeah and a innocent person doesn't make his victims sign NDA's unless hes got something serious to hide  then suddenly has to pay them off (20 women)  An innocent person supposedly: Shouldnt have to pay anyone off!...... Puhleeze..

    @nickers said:

    Yeah and a innocent person doesn't make his victims sign NDA's unless hes got something serious to hide  then suddenly has to pay them off (20 women)  An innocent person supposedly: Shouldnt have to pay anyone off!...... Puhleeze..

    So you are ready to call a person despicable and spew hatred based on assumptions and zero facts. Okay then. Must be lonely up there on your 'moral high ground.'

    Every major company I have ever worked for made me sign an NDA, or had it incorporated in the employment contract. Does that mean they had ungodly intentions with me? Of course not. It is a standard practice for a wealthy organization or individual to protect themselves. Welcome to the real world, my fellow Brownie. 

  • @nickers said:

    Yeah and a innocent person doesn't make his victims sign NDA's unless hes got something serious to hide  then suddenly has to pay them off (20 women)  An innocent person supposedly: Shouldnt have to pay anyone off!...... Puhleeze..

    So you are ready to call a person despicable and spew hatred based on assumptions and zero facts. Okay then. Must be lonely up there on your 'moral high ground.'

    Every major company I have ever worked for made me sign an NDA, or had it incorporated in the employment contract. Does that mean they had ungodly intentions with me? Of course not. It is a standard practice for a wealthy organization or individual to protect themselves. Welcome to the real world, my fellow Brownie. 

    @korsou-dawg said:

    So you are ready to call a person despicable and spew hatred based on assumptions and zero facts. Okay then. Must be lonely up there on your 'moral high ground.'

    Every major company I have ever worked for made me sign an NDA, or had it incorporated in the employment contract. Does that mean they had ungodly intentions with me? Of course not. It is a standard practice for a wealthy organization or individual to protect themselves. Welcome to the real world, my fellow Brownie. 

    C'mon... 66 broads dude... This dude is a star athlete... Why does he need to recruit all of these women to carry out his weird fetishes...  This is NOT normal behavior... He's an idiot...

  • The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    If the policy says that ownership and management are to be held to a higher standard, the precedent is clear and DW doesn't get a single game. 

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    So you are ready to call a person despicable and spew hatred based on assumptions and zero facts. Okay then. Must be lonely up there on your 'moral high ground.'

    Every major company I have ever worked for made me sign an NDA, or had it incorporated in the employment contract. Does that mean they had ungodly intentions with me? Of course not. It is a standard practice for a wealthy organization or individual to protect themselves. Welcome to the real world, my fellow Brownie. 

    C'mon... 66 broads dude... This dude is a star athlete... Why does he need to recruit all of these women to carry out his weird fetishes...  This is NOT normal behavior... He's an idiot...

    @nickers said:

    C'mon... 66 broads dude... This dude is a star athlete... Why does he need to recruit all of these women to carry out his weird fetishes...  This is NOT normal behavior... He's an idiot...

    And most likely going to continue to prey on women... I hope he banished from the NFL and the contract is nullified. The Texans should be charged with EXTORTION and Cleveland returned our picks. Then Andrew Berry and Jimmy Haslam need to go and give Baker a massage. Dumbasses.

  • Jimmy, Dee... Cuck.

    You Bastards make me sick.

    1 and fucking 31!!!

    A fucking toilet bowl parade for going 0-16. 

    Baker made us relevant again, actually gave me a reason to believe, however fleeting, for this accursed organization. 

    With Mayfield actually healthy and with the team around him this year, we could have won the whole dame thing.

    Ungrateful. Unloyal. Short-Sighted. Willfully Ignorant. 

    You are not supposed to lose your spot because of an injury. Baker is the best thing that has ever happened since I became a brown's fan... last century. 

    If Baker goes, I go too. Have fun with Bonerhead. Andrew Berry Cucked, I'm so disappointed. For all the years of building draft capital and being very savvy with the salary cap, this deal with Watson just made it all a wash.

    You thought we were laughingstocks before... oh, just wait, Jimmy Haslam just asked Berry to hold his beer...

  • The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    If the policy says that ownership and management are to be held to a higher standard, the precedent is clear and DW doesn't get a single game. 

    @korsou-dawg said:

    The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    If the policy says that ownership and management are to be held to a higher standard, the precedent is clear and DW doesn't get a single game. 

    You sound like Watson's Mother. Please, this dude has a very serious problem. He had a girlfriend at the time too. The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one. Watson can't even find the stairs, dude's took an elevator his whole life. He's not even a better QB than Mayfield... maybe a better athlete, not a better QB, never, not in a million years could Watson's Football Intellect match wits with Baker Mayfields. I think that a lot of you forget that Tom Brady couldn't outrun Joel Bitonio. 

  • The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    If the policy says that ownership and management are to be held to a higher standard, the precedent is clear and DW doesn't get a single game. 

    @korsou-dawg said:

    The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    no, the main difference is that kraft went to a prostitute -

    watson offended a lot of women, most? who were NOT prostitutes, although you have to wonder about the ones he flew in to his fancy place who were NOT licensed to be massotherapists.

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    If the policy says that ownership and management are to be held to a higher standard, the precedent is clear and DW doesn't get a single game. 

    You sound like Watson's Mother. Please, this dude has a very serious problem. He had a girlfriend at the time too. The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one. Watson can't even find the stairs, dude's took an elevator his whole life. He's not even a better QB than Mayfield... maybe a better athlete, not a better QB, never, not in a million years could Watson's Football Intellect match wits with Baker Mayfields. I think that a lot of you forget that Tom Brady couldn't outrun Joel Bitonio. 

    @poeticg said:

    You sound like Watson's Mother. Please, this dude has a very serious problem. He had a girlfriend at the time too. The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one. Watson can't even find the stairs, dude's took an elevator his whole life. He's not even a better QB than Mayfield... maybe a better athlete, not a better QB, never, not in a million years could Watson's Football Intellect match wits with Baker Mayfields. I think that a lot of you forget that Tom Brady couldn't outrun Joel Bitonio. 

    Bingo!!!

  • Hey Po!  Long time no see.  Hope you are well.

    Can't root for Hogan anymore I see.  Baker's still on the roster for now...so ya got that anyway.

  • It's a damn good day when I see a rare PoG post followed closely with a Hogan reference.

    Who says 2022 sucks? ? 

  • @nickers said:

    C'mon... 66 broads dude... This dude is a star athlete... Why does he need to recruit all of these women to carry out his weird fetishes...  This is NOT normal behavior... He's an idiot...

    And most likely going to continue to prey on women... I hope he banished from the NFL and the contract is nullified. The Texans should be charged with EXTORTION and Cleveland returned our picks. Then Andrew Berry and Jimmy Haslam need to go and give Baker a massage. Dumbasses.

    @poeticg said:

    And most likely going to continue to prey on women... I hope he banished from the NFL and the contract is nullified. The Texans should be charged with EXTORTION and Cleveland returned our picks. Then Andrew Berry and Jimmy Haslam need to go and give Baker a massage. Dumbasses.

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  • @korsou-dawg said:

    The main difference with Kraft and DW is that in Kraft's case there was actual evidence (he was caught on tape). In DW's there are only accusations.

    no, the main difference is that kraft went to a prostitute -

    watson offended a lot of women, most? who were NOT prostitutes, although you have to wonder about the ones he flew in to his fancy place who were NOT licensed to be massotherapists.

    @calfoxwc said:

    no, the main difference is that kraft went to a prostitute -

    watson offended a lot of women, most? who were NOT prostitutes, although you have to wonder about the ones he flew in to his fancy place who were NOT licensed to be massotherapists.

    I’m not following this…and I’ve heard this a few times now but because he went to a prostitute things are better or okay?   Is this okay with the NFLs morality clause? 

  • And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense. 


    Josh Allen would have done it.  We’d have no need this season 

    And Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019. 

  • And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense. 


    Josh Allen would have done it.  We’d have no need this season 

    And Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense. 


    Josh Allen would have done it.  We’d have no need this season 

    And Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019. 

    Josh Allen hasnt done anything yet... Puhleese

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense. 


    Josh Allen would have done it.  We’d have no need this season 

    And Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019. 

    Josh Allen hasnt done anything yet... Puhleese

    @nickers said:

    Josh Allen hasnt done anything yet... Puhleese

    He’d have 27 teams after him today.  

  • @nickers said:

    Josh Allen hasnt done anything yet... Puhleese

    He’d have 27 teams after him today.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    He’d have 27 teams after him today.  

    Thats debatable

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    He’d have 27 teams after him today.  

    Thats debatable

    @nickers said:

    Thats debatable

    Okay 26.

    And How many teams are interested in Baker? 

  • And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense. 


    Josh Allen would have done it.  We’d have no need this season 

    And Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  

    Very fair assessment. 

    I have no problem with the Browns upgrading from Baker.

    The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here.  he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.  

    Very fair assessment. 

    I have no problem with the Browns upgrading from Baker.

    The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck. 

    The thing is, he was the only train in sight.  

    We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up.   We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him.  In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.

    When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's?  Knowing that the team is built to win now.  - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season.   And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.

    ..............so, Yes,  they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.