Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
Josh Allen hasnt done anything yet... Puhleese
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
Josh Allen hasnt done anything yet... Puhleese
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He’d have 27 teams after him today.
Thats debatable
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He’d have 27 teams after him today.
Thats debatable
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.
Very fair assessment.
I have no problem with the Browns upgrading from Baker.
The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck.
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level.
Very fair assessment.
I have no problem with the Browns upgrading from Baker.
The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck.
The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
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The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
Well guess what... It's not coming... Book it!
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The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
Well guess what... It's not coming... Book it!
Well guess what... It's not coming... Book it!
And even if it does it comes with an asterisk.
Here's the latest from Ian Rappaport:
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The Browns Super Bowl title wouldn't really count because they had a scumbag on their roster?
Yes, an asterisk would be appropriate. I can't imagine any of the Super Bowl teams before have had a scumbag on their roster.
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The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
The Browns front office and coaching staff were in a "hard place and a rock" type situation, for sure.
They did not want to hitch their front office/coaching future to Baker, and I get that.
But turning to Watson might end up getting them all fired too. I totally get what you are saying, it wasn't like top-level QBs were or are available very often, but they paid an absolute king's ransom for a completely toxic "face of the franchise". A totally guaranteed contract, three first rounders, a third rounder, and two fourth rounders for a player looking down the barrel of a one year suspension, coming off him sitting a full year.
It's not optimal. ?
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
Umm, Baker was our QB when Cleveland scored 48 points in a playoff game at Pittsburgh in January fo 2021. The next week he had what should have been a TD pass to Higgins fumbled 2 inches shy of the goal line for a Touchback in a game Cleveland lost by 4 or 5 points. They were THAT close to advancing to the AFC Championship Game. While 26 TD passes to 8 INTs in that regular season wasn't elite - it wasn't exactly the ship sinker (considering OBJ was hurt again and Landry played on a hip that needed post season surgery and a bad knee).
BTW, did Baker draft himself #1 overall? If Watson is your hero today - are you at all aware the Browns didn't want to draft him #1 overall in 2017 (coming off 1-15 football)? So, they took Myles Garrett and went 0-16 the next year. Then, they could have drafted Josh Allen instead of Baker following 0-16; but the worst QB you think you've ever seen here just broke the rookie QB record for TD passes and WON some games. As fans we can get that wrong; but those in charge of our franchise have to draft the best prospect for the future.
I think you're really misplacing your hostilities all to just 1 guy. Ask yourself, outside of the Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s that gave this franchise Bernie Kosar - when is the last time this franchise has drafted a QB that led us to the playoffs and won post season games? Name 1. When you're done taking inventory, you'll see it has always started at the top (who hires the FO that drafts the QBs and the surrounding cast). Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Is a pig's ass pork?
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The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
The Browns front office and coaching staff were in a "hard place and a rock" type situation, for sure.
They did not want to hitch their front office/coaching future to Baker, and I get that.
But turning to Watson might end up getting them all fired too. I totally get what you are saying, it wasn't like top-level QBs were or are available very often, but they paid an absolute king's ransom for a completely toxic "face of the franchise". A totally guaranteed contract, three first rounders, a third rounder, and two fourth rounders for a player looking down the barrel of a one year suspension, coming off him sitting a full year.
It's not optimal. ?
They did not want to hitch their front office/coaching future to Baker, and I get that.
it wasn't like top-level QBs were or are available very often, but they paid an absolute king's ransom for a completely toxic "face of the franchise".
Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
Time for me to jump on a plane ? and leave this ____________ transaction action for 10 days ? (i may miss nothing? ?)
I'll always believe, there once was a time, to avoid this media _____ wreck..
A somewhat decided Browns FO, looking to trade a Baker Mayfield too?
Time heals all wounds? Time for me to check out to a Tar- healing vacation... see ya all... Stay Family Safe !
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
They did not want to hitch their front office/coaching future to Baker, and I get that.
it wasn't like top-level QBs were or are available very often, but they paid an absolute king's ransom for a completely toxic "face of the franchise".
Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
Time for me to jump on a plane ? and leave this ____________ transaction action for 10 days ? (i may miss nothing? ?)
I'll always believe, there once was a time, to avoid this media _____ wreck..
A somewhat decided Browns FO, looking to trade a Baker Mayfield too?
Time heals all wounds? Time for me to check out to a Tar- healing vacation... see ya all... Stay Family Safe !
Time heals all wounds? Time for me to check out to a Tar- healing vacation... see ya all... Stay Family Safe !
Have a nice vacation pal, I hope you and your family enjoy your time away.
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They did not want to hitch their front office/coaching future to Baker, and I get that.
it wasn't like top-level QBs were or are available very often, but they paid an absolute king's ransom for a completely toxic "face of the franchise".
Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
Time for me to jump on a plane ? and leave this ____________ transaction action for 10 days ? (i may miss nothing? ?)
I'll always believe, there once was a time, to avoid this media _____ wreck..
A somewhat decided Browns FO, looking to trade a Baker Mayfield too?
Time heals all wounds? Time for me to check out to a Tar- healing vacation... see ya all... Stay Family Safe !
Time for me to jump on a plane ? and leave this ____________ transaction action for 10 days ? (i may miss nothing? ?)
I'll always believe, there once was a time, to avoid this media _____ wreck..
A somewhat decided Browns FO, looking to trade a Baker Mayfield too?
Time heals all wounds? Time for me to check out to a Tar- healing vacation... see ya all... Stay Family Safe !
Have a blast gumby!! My daughter and her fiancé were home from Australia for 6 weeks and we did so much that it won't even fit on the internet.
I didn't miss this forum - and especially Baker vs Deshaun for even 1 millisecond. Hug em while you got em brother! ?
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Been awhile since I looked this up. Baker Mayfield had his arm literally hanging out the socket and defenders were targeting his non-throwing shoulder. Stephanski, being a coach of the year should have protected Baker from himself there. He threw, threw, threw when we needed to run, but we couldn't run because both our all-star runningbacks had fucking injuries. Our great Kareem Hunt missed 8 fucking games, half a season. Landry was hurt, Obj quit like the bitch he is... even the unstoppable Nick Chubb missed significant time. But not Baker, he showed up and put everything on the line and didn't step away until it was clear we were out of the playoffs... Multiple WR mistakes lead to many of the interceptions that Baker ultimately got credit for. Njoku missed a game sealing catch. Landry dropped multiple open catches. Green Bay won the game on a phantom Pass Interference call and a gift from the ref... and in all but the motherfucking Patriots game we got blown out in, we were in every game.
The grass is always greener on the other side... especially when you're staring at astroturf...
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The problem is the guy they upgraded with is an absolute trainwreck.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
The thing is, he was the only train in sight.
We couldn't draft a Baker replacement this year...even if we traded up. We couldn't get Aaron Rogers...and this Watson talent, was available, and somebody was going to get him. In theory, he is the type of talent that can quarterback a team to a super bowl.
When, do we think, would be the next time that we'd be able to acquire the type of talent at QB that could compete with the AFC QB's? Knowing that the team is built to win now. - Remember, the team knew, that they didn't want to extend Baker's contract before the start of last season. And obviously, this past season wasn't going to change their minds.
..............so, Yes, they sold their soul to the devil to try and bring a football championship to Cleveland.
^^^^^This!!!!
Built to win now with guys like Garrett, Chubb, Ward in their prime years and this Oline finally built up and has continuity. You have to step on the gas right now
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And let’s get something straight Baker is the reason we are here. he couldn’t take an excellent roster to the next level and we are ready for the next level. Which is okay but in the meantime he could have acted like a mature professional and we would have accepted more of his inefficiencies at this level like reading a defense.
Josh Allen would have done it. We’d have no need this seasonAnd Darnold or Rosen we’d be picking Burrow or Herbert after we realized the mistake and went 2-14 in 2019.
Umm, Baker was our QB when Cleveland scored 48 points in a playoff game at Pittsburgh in January fo 2021. The next week he had what should have been a TD pass to Higgins fumbled 2 inches shy of the goal line for a Touchback in a game Cleveland lost by 4 or 5 points. They were THAT close to advancing to the AFC Championship Game. While 26 TD passes to 8 INTs in that regular season wasn't elite - it wasn't exactly the ship sinker (considering OBJ was hurt again and Landry played on a hip that needed post season surgery and a bad knee).
BTW, did Baker draft himself #1 overall? If Watson is your hero today - are you at all aware the Browns didn't want to draft him #1 overall in 2017 (coming off 1-15 football)? So, they took Myles Garrett and went 0-16 the next year. Then, they could have drafted Josh Allen instead of Baker following 0-16; but the worst QB you think you've ever seen here just broke the rookie QB record for TD passes and WON some games. As fans we can get that wrong; but those in charge of our franchise have to draft the best prospect for the future.
I think you're really misplacing your hostilities all to just 1 guy. Ask yourself, outside of the Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s that gave this franchise Bernie Kosar - when is the last time this franchise has drafted a QB that led us to the playoffs and won post season games? Name 1. When you're done taking inventory, you'll see it has always started at the top (who hires the FO that drafts the QBs and the surrounding cast). Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
Umm, Baker was our QB when Cleveland scored 48 points in a playoff game at Pittsburgh in January fo 2021. The next week he had what should have been a TD pass to Higgins fumbled 2 inches shy of the goal line for a Touchback in a game Cleveland lost by 4 or 5 points. They were THAT close to advancing to the AFC Championship Game. While 26 TD passes to 8 INTs in that regular season wasn't elite - it wasn't exactly the ship sinker (considering OBJ was hurt again and Landry played on a hip that needed post season surgery and a bad knee).
BTW, did Baker draft himself #1 overall? If Watson is your hero today - are you at all aware the Browns didn't want to draft him #1 overall in 2017 (coming off 1-15 football)? So, they took Myles Garrett and went 0-16 the next year. Then, they could have drafted Josh Allen instead of Baker following 0-16; but the worst QB you think you've ever seen here just broke the rookie QB record for TD passes and WON some games. As fans we can get that wrong; but those in charge of our franchise have to draft the best prospect for the future.
I think you're really misplacing your hostilities all to just 1 guy. Ask yourself, outside of the Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s that gave this franchise Bernie Kosar - when is the last time this franchise has drafted a QB that led us to the playoffs and won post season games? Name 1. When you're done taking inventory, you'll see it has always started at the top (who hires the FO that drafts the QBs and the surrounding cast). Since they CANNOT do this right - we're waiting on a suspension while we've given THREE 1st round picks and more to Houston. Yay?
No hostilities.
He’s a competent QB at this level. And under a great setup he can perform well enough to be .500 QB. Some of you want an elite line, elite backs, elite WRs and a defense to give him short fields or you make excuses for him that he doesn’t have enough. I can’t sometimes….10 years ago I used to argue with Browns fans that wanted 5 Joe Thomas’ in our line thinking that would fix our QB problems. We witnessed year after year even when we gave a qb two extra seconds the magic still couldn’t happen. We get a guy a little more capable than what we’ve had and people are still losing their minds.
Aaron Rodgers doesn’t have enough. Josh Allen hasn’t had a running game. Russell Wilson hasn’t had an offensive line for years. The list goes on. There are a handful of QBs that can take little and still win games. You can argue that we finally have that guy. Baker isn’t capable of carrying this team should something go wrong.
Im grateful. I’ve said it here before- Baker brought us from 0-16 to knocking on the door of the playoffs to 11-5 playoffs and 8-9 while injured. But some of you ignore the flaws in his game and personality. And some of you are okay with knocking on the door.
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