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  • @westside-steve said:

    Carolinas front office and staff in some sort of turmoil?

    Panthers staff greatest chance of being fired of any NFL team

    Back-to-back 5-win seasons will do that.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Panthers staff greatest chance of being fired of any NFL team

    Back-to-back 5-win seasons will do that.

    Which will mean less of a chance Mayfield becomes the etched in stone as starter for the panthers. You know the drill flush out the front office the new GM will want his guys. 

    WSS 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Panthers staff greatest chance of being fired of any NFL team

    Back-to-back 5-win seasons will do that.

    Which will mean less of a chance Mayfield becomes the etched in stone as starter for the panthers. You know the drill flush out the front office the new GM will want his guys. 

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    Which will mean less of a chance Mayfield becomes the etched in stone as starter for the panthers. You know the drill flush out the front office the new GM will want his guys. 

    WSS 

    I think that will be the Mayfield year 1 story.  A little bit of that will be on the Game 1 performance. 

     BRM had a good chance of starting all 17 games....health issues aside..... IF   he comes out of training camp as the #1 guy  NO   questions asked. 

    Part of the 2022 quarterback spotlight should be on Carolina all week, month, season long.

    Adios and good luck Baker  -but- 

    GO BROWNS,  come out ready to run, run, pass and    W-I-N !

  • Baker will be just like Drew Breezy. He will win at least 3 Superbowls. It won't be for us though... maybe his third will be, eh; I can dream. 

    @poeticg said:

    Baker will be just like Drew Breezy. He will win at least 3 Superbowls. It won't be for us though... maybe his third will be, eh; I can dream. 

    Like Saquon Barkley will have 20,000 career rushing yards before he retires?... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So how many more career starts do you see in Baker? 

    59 so far. 

    I'm not in the prediction business. But somewhere between Colt McCoy's 33 and Andy Dalton's 148.   🙂   I think Z was being facetious.  

  • Obviously, there were more than just OBJ trying to get away from Baker.  But, again, in hindsight, we knew when he wasn't offered a new contract.

  • @nickers said:

     Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    Oh yeah you could make this stuff up.....and most people would laugh at it.   Unfortunately now it's Cleveland BROWNS  lore, we're stuck with it. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yeah you could make this stuff up.....and most people would laugh at it.   Unfortunately now it's Cleveland BROWNS  lore, we're stuck with it. 

    Cleveland Browns lore can be made into a novel. 

    It feels as though not a year post 1999 has gone by without this franchise producing some sort of drama.

    And if Baker lights it up in Carolina it will be par for the course.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Oh yeah you could make this stuff up.....and most people would laugh at it.   Unfortunately now it's Cleveland BROWNS  lore, we're stuck with it. 

    Cleveland Browns lore can be made into a novel. 

    It feels as though not a year post 1999 has gone by without this franchise producing some sort of drama.

    And if Baker lights it up in Carolina it will be par for the course.

    @fy56 said:

    Cleveland Browns lore can be made into a novel. 

    It feels as though not a year post 1999 has gone by without this franchise producing some sort of drama.

    And if Baker lights it up in Carolina it will be par for the course.

    i hope he does  - starting w/ the opener

  • As far as the obj stefanski Mayfield Devil's Triangle: as much as I love Mayfield I would absolutely cringe whenever he overthrew or under through a receiver. If the ball bounced off someone's hands then I blame them. But unless Mayfield is calling his own plays why then would he be responsible for obj being over on the other side of the field and open? I would blame whoever called that play. On the other hand if the play is meant to go to obj and Baker missed him then I would blame mayfield. Doesn't that make sense?

    But no doubt any coach any leader is going to be pissed off if somebody calls him out in front of the rest of the team. And that can often bring repercussions to the guy calling him out. I don't call management out at the bars I play at to ownership because that would probably come back to bite me in the ass.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    As far as the obj stefanski Mayfield Devil's Triangle: as much as I love Mayfield I would absolutely cringe whenever he overthrew or under through a receiver. If the ball bounced off someone's hands then I blame them. But unless Mayfield is calling his own plays why then would he be responsible for obj being over on the other side of the field and open? I would blame whoever called that play. On the other hand if the play is meant to go to obj and Baker missed him then I would blame mayfield. Doesn't that make sense?

    But no doubt any coach any leader is going to be pissed off if somebody calls him out in front of the rest of the team. And that can often bring repercussions to the guy calling him out. I don't call management out at the bars I play at to ownership because that would probably come back to bite me in the ass.

    WSS

    Wait am I reading this correctly…the play caller is responsible for a WR being on the other side of the field  and being open.  And this should reflect negatively on the play caller if the QB doesn’t see this? Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

  • Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

  • @westside-steve said:

    As far as the obj stefanski Mayfield Devil's Triangle: as much as I love Mayfield I would absolutely cringe whenever he overthrew or under through a receiver. If the ball bounced off someone's hands then I blame them. But unless Mayfield is calling his own plays why then would he be responsible for obj being over on the other side of the field and open? I would blame whoever called that play. On the other hand if the play is meant to go to obj and Baker missed him then I would blame mayfield. Doesn't that make sense?

    But no doubt any coach any leader is going to be pissed off if somebody calls him out in front of the rest of the team. And that can often bring repercussions to the guy calling him out. I don't call management out at the bars I play at to ownership because that would probably come back to bite me in the ass.

    WSS

    Wait am I reading this correctly…the play caller is responsible for a WR being on the other side of the field  and being open.  And this should reflect negatively on the play caller if the QB doesn’t see this? Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Wait am I reading this correctly…the play caller is responsible for a WR being on the other side of the field  and being open.  And this should reflect negatively on the play caller if the QB doesn’t see this? Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

    I only played on the offensive line and that was only for part of the season in the 7th grade and I sucked. So I'm not going to brag about my football expertise but I'd have to think the plays are set up more specifically than hang on to the ball till you see somebody get open somewhere.

    Still then why weren't there a lot more plays designed to go right to Beckham?

    Also if it's a timing pattern the ball should be in the air before Beckham got to the spot right?

    Maybe not.

    WSS

    By the way as long as we're on the subject of Beckham and let's include Landry both of those guys complained of injuries all season long. If that's the case how come they were on the field?

  • Let's say that's all true. And they replace him with..

    WSS 

  • I think he'll go on to have a solid career once he gets settled... With our luck... Watson will magically turn to crap... It would be... So Cleveland... LOL...

    @nickers said:

    I think he'll go on to have a solid career once he gets settled... With our luck... Watson will magically turn to crap... It would be... So Cleveland... LOL...

  • Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    Yeah, I don't get that either.?

  •  Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    @nickers said:

     Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    JFF looking better every day.?

  • @westside-steve said:

    As far as the obj stefanski Mayfield Devil's Triangle: as much as I love Mayfield I would absolutely cringe whenever he overthrew or under through a receiver. If the ball bounced off someone's hands then I blame them. But unless Mayfield is calling his own plays why then would he be responsible for obj being over on the other side of the field and open? I would blame whoever called that play. On the other hand if the play is meant to go to obj and Baker missed him then I would blame mayfield. Doesn't that make sense?

    But no doubt any coach any leader is going to be pissed off if somebody calls him out in front of the rest of the team. And that can often bring repercussions to the guy calling him out. I don't call management out at the bars I play at to ownership because that would probably come back to bite me in the ass.

    WSS

    Wait am I reading this correctly…the play caller is responsible for a WR being on the other side of the field  and being open.  And this should reflect negatively on the play caller if the QB doesn’t see this? Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

    Well, to a degree they do.  The play could be designed for the ball to go to the other side of the field.  By the time your hot reads get you all the way to the other side of the field the pocket is breaking down.  OBJ's father tweeted his video,  but I was bummed at how Baker would ignore Njoku crossing over the middle, OPEN, and would instead turn to someone deeper downfield and try to squeeze it in there...to no avail.  

  • Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty.

  • @fy56 said:

    Cleveland Browns lore can be made into a novel. 

    It feels as though not a year post 1999 has gone by without this franchise producing some sort of drama.

    And if Baker lights it up in Carolina it will be par for the course.

    i hope he does  - starting w/ the opener

    @fairhooker11 said:

    i hope he does  - starting w/ the opener

    Me too. If horny boy is suspended for the season and the Browns get Jimmy Garoppolo I could root for a loss to the Panthers and then go 16 and 1.

    Beyond that the fucks I give about the Panthers are in short supply.

    Maybe when the dust clears we can trade Watson to Miami next season.

    ???

    WSS

  • @nickers said:

     Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    JFF looking better every day.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    JFF looking better every day.?

    Oh God I'd never, ever thought hear that again. 

    "With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select........ "   

    OK a trip down memory lane,  do you remember..... oh brother.   Maybe he was the best available at #22 but who else was there, trade up or just trade for ......memories are always 20/20.  

    • 2014 First Round.   😮
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    1 2 STL Greg Robinson T 21 2019 0 0 5 24 13 83 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Auburn College Stats
    1 3 JAX Blake Bortles QB 22 2019 0 0 5 44 44 78 1562 2634 17649 103 75 283 1766 8 1 20 1       Central Florida College Stats
    1 4 BUF Sammy Watkins WR 21 2021 0 0 6 42 21 99 0 1 0 0 1 11 76 0 348 5059 34       Clemson College Stats
    1 5 OAK Khalil Mack LB 23 2021 3 6 7 82 42 117 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 352 3 76.5 Buffalo College Stats
    1 6 ATL Jake Matthews T 22 2021 0 1 8 60 60 128 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Texas A&M College Stats
    1 7 TAM Mike Evans WR 21 2021 0 4 8 62 62 122 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 0 606 9301 75 1     Texas A&M College Stats
    1 8 CLE Justin Gilbert DB 22 2016 0 0 0 4 3 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 36 1   Oklahoma St. College Stats
    1 9 MIN Anthony Barr LB 22 2021 0 4 6 52 52 98 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 335 5 17.5 UCLA College Stats
    1 10 DET Eric Ebron TE 21 2021 0 1 4 29 15 106 0 1 0 0 0 5 -6 3 351 3837 33       North Carolina College Stats
    1 11 TEN Taylor Lewan T 23 2021 0 3 7 47 47 103 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 1       Michigan College Stats
    1 12 NYG Odell Beckham Jr. WR 21 2021 0 3 6 51 41 96 4 6 144 2 0 23 170 1 531 7367 56 3     LSU College Stats
    1 13 STL Aaron Donald DT 23 2021 7 8 8 110 110 127 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 285   98.0 Pittsburgh College Stats
    1 14 CHI Kyle Fuller DB 22 2021 1 2 5 48 45 112 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 368 19   Virginia Tech College Stats
    1 15 PIT Ryan Shazier LB 22 2017 0 2 3 27 27 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 202 7 7.0 Ohio St. College Stats
    1 16 DAL Zack Martin G 23 2021 5 7 8 84 84 120 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Notre Dame College Stats
    1 17 BAL C.J. Mosley LB 22 2021 0 4 6 65 59 95 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 494 10 10.5 Alabama College Stats
    1 18 NYJ Calvin Pryor DB 22 2017 0 0 3 13 13 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 132 2 0.5 Louisville College Stats
    1 19 MIA Ja'Wuan James T 22 2019 0 0 4 27 26 65 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Tennessee College Stats
    1 20 NOR Brandin Cooks WR 20 2021 0 0 8 63 21 119 0 0 0 0 0 48 302 2 573 7917 46       Oregon St. College Stats
    1 21 GNB Ha Ha Clinton-Dix DB 21 2021 0 1 6 34 24 98 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 417 16 5.5 Alabama College Stats
    1 22 CLE Johnny Manziel QB 21 2015 0 0 0 4 4 14 147 258 1675 7 7 46 259 1 0 0 0       Texas A&M College Stats
    1 23 KAN Dee Ford LB 23 2021 0 1 2 23 21 85 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 117   40.0 Auburn College Stats
    1 24 CIN Darqueze Dennard DB 22 2021 0 0 0 13 12 87 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 230 4 3.0 Michigan St. College Stats
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    1 32 MIN

    Ted Bridgewater 

    QB 21 2021 0 1 4 47 22 73 1323 1988 14437 71 43 216 819 11 0 0 0       Louisville Colleg
  • Just think "what if"  and another quarterback was picked......all quarterback stories for years might have been drastically different. 

    Even up to 2022..  No Mayfield picked, no BW stories,  different drafts ????????

    1. The 2014 Draft all quarterbacks drafted Blake Bortles was first then WOW, what if.......right up to today !  Look at numbers 3, 4, 5.   Scouting or just luck ?   😮 😆 😳

    Screenshot_2022-07-10_101040.jpg

  • @westside-steve said:

    Neither one was my dream scenario but I'd have preferred Seattle. Carolina is garbage.

    WSS 

    Panthers have a good front 7 and secondary.    They also have a good RB room provided Run CMC comes back healthy.    They invested resources into their oline this off season and their WR room - Higgins, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson are all good targets.

    They play in a tough division.  "Garbage" is hardly the word I would use.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Panthers have a good front 7 and secondary.    They also have a good RB room provided Run CMC comes back healthy.    They invested resources into their oline this off season and their WR room - Higgins, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson are all good targets.

    They play in a tough division.  "Garbage" is hardly the word I would use.

    I agree with you.  I think it's a very good opportunity for him.  There's some playmakers in that offense; and they drafted the Offensive Tackle they wanted at #6 overall.