Browns sign Rosen

[Canton Dawg]

@jrb12711 said:

Man, dug up my grave with that one.

Looking back, I stand by a lot of what I said. It’s just hard to judge if a dude just isn’t going to give a shit about bettering his craft like Rosen in my opinion fell into. Also got dealt a pretty shit hand in terms of coaching, not unlike Tua in Miami. In any case pretty funny how this dude is on the roster now.

Kind of makes you wonder what the Browns confidence level is for Brissett & Dobbs to make them sign Rosen?

[SdBacker80]

I’ll be honest I had the Eli Manning vibe from him.  But then Towards the end of his Last year at UCLA you could question the intangibles.

[mjp28]

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games.  Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ?  QB 4 ???   A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into.  (Not new news.)

[FY56]

@mjp28 said:

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games.  Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ?  QB 4 ???   A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into.  (Not new news.)

This move tells me they know something we don't. Yet.

[ballpeen]

@mjp28 said:

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games.  Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ?  QB 4 ???   A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into.  (Not new news.)

I don't think it hints at anything about Watsons suspension.

I think he was brought in to maybe push Brissett.  I also think they are considering a back-up for the future.  If Watson is suspended, whoever starts is going to have the tape to possibly seeks a starting gig next year.  The guy who doesn't start is going to have to settle for a back-up salary.  Assuming Brissett starts, the idea could be that Rosen becomes our back-up the next 3 years.  Assuming he is better than Dobbs.

[tiamat63]

Continues the trend of bringing in (former) promising 1st round picks that are young and cheap.    

Another example being Taven Bryan.    Just the front office sticking to a certain part of their philosophy and leaving no stone unturned.    Nothing more, nothing less.

[SdBacker80]

@mjp28 said:

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games.  Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ?  QB 4 ???   A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into.  (Not new news.)

You need camp arms.

if Watson is out Brissett becomes a guy that you give some reps to but you want to protect him somewhat in preseason. 
 

so enter Dobbs and Rosen 

[Westside Steve]

Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.

WSS

[TexasAg1969]

The more the merrier. Give him a shot. Not a thing to lose by this signing.

[hoorta]

@calfoxwc said:

LOL, I thought you were being funny, Zombo.

No - I was all in on Josh Allen. Flugels and I have laughed about it later on....

Caught hell for it for disagreeing with Hoorta, for one. How dare I disagree with Tour!

They kept bashing Josh Allen, and I kept talking saying Josh Rosen was a very bad choice.

Note: (lol - only since you thought it was me....)

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on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:

1) Exaggerations, or facts Cal? He's the least accurate of the major prospects. Bad footwork. Bad receivers? They can't catch something thrown ten feet over their heads. 

2) None of us hate Allen 1\2 as much as you hate Rosen. Not liking him as a prospect is a far cry from "hating" him. How many times do I have to say my QB rankings are 1A Mayfield, 1B Darnold, 3 Rosen, 4 Allen. If I was as big an a-hole as you are about Rosen, I wouldn't even have Allen on my draft board. 

3) I haven't seen anyone around here "frantically" trying to convince anyone that we just gotta draft Rosen, master of hyperbole. And we've duly noted his positives, Mr Oblivious. Great Arm, high character......."

Thanks for proving me right Cal..  In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day.   Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude. 

I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers. 

I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.   

[calfoxwc]

@hoorta said:

Thanks for proving me right Cal..  In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day.   Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude. 

I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers. 

I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.   

Thanks for proving me right again.........

in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.

But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.

I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.

You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.

It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.

[Orion]

@hoorta said:

first round quarterback busts in the club....Joey Harrington,

I swear that kid kicked our asses every time we played him.   (including pre-season)

We'll have a little QB derby in TC.   

Is Dobbs still PS eligible? 

[Dutch Oven]

@hoorta said:

Thanks for proving me right Cal..  In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day.   Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude. 

I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers. 

I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.   

Let cal have his moment hoorta, this is literally the only thing he's ever got right. ?

He'll probably have "I WAS RIGHT ABOUT JOSH ALLEN" on his tombstone. 

[mjp28]

Wow what did I miss this afternoon  ?       

[syd]

@westside-steve said:

Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.

WSS

ummm no playbook no ota's he is so far behind and i believe it is just a ploy to try and get jimmy g for a low round pick and part of his salary picked up by san fran ala baker

[Orion]

@syd said:

no playbook no ota's he is so far behind

And what kind of reps is he gonna get in TC?  3rd stringers?  It's not going to be easy for Rosen to become the suspension starter.....but Brissette is new to the team this year too.  He's not all that far ahead.  

[hoorta]

@calfoxwc said:

Thanks for proving me right again.........

in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.

But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.

I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.

You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.

It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.

Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum.  Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns.   What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape)  that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start? 

PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.    

[ballpeen]

@orion said:

I swear that kid kicked our asses every time we played him.   (including pre-season)

We'll have a little QB derby in TC.   

Is Dobbs still PS eligible? 

New PS rules make nearly anyone eligible.  Rosen is probably practice squad eligible.

[FY56]

@hoorta said:

Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. 

Well let's see.

@calfoxwc said:

Thanks for proving me right again...

PROBABLY TRUE lol

in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.

TRUE

But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.

SUBJECTIVE BUT TRUE REGARDING EGO

I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.

TRUE

You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.

TRUE

It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.

TRUE

Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?

[Dutch Oven]

@fy56 said:

Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?

Please use the pink font when using sarcasm, as it is hard to pick up in written form. Thanks!