Browns sign Rosen

mjp28

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games. Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ? QB 4 ??? A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into. (Not new news.)

FY56

@mjp28 said:

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games. Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ? QB 4 ??? A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into. (Not new news.)

This move tells me they know something we don't. Yet.

ballpeen

@mjp28 said:

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games. Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ? QB 4 ??? A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into. (Not new news.)

I don't think it hints at anything about Watsons suspension.

I think he was brought in to maybe push Brissett. I also think they are considering a back-up for the future. If Watson is suspended, whoever starts is going to have the tape to possibly seeks a starting gig next year. The guy who doesn't start is going to have to settle for a back-up salary. Assuming Brissett starts, the idea could be that Rosen becomes our back-up the next 3 years. Assuming he is better than Dobbs.

tiamat63

Continues the trend of bringing in (former) promising 1st round picks that are young and cheap.

Another example being Taven Bryan. Just the front office sticking to a certain part of their philosophy and leaving no stone unturned. Nothing more, nothing less.

SdBacker80

@mjp28 said:

Yes, why are they just adding QBs if they think DW will only be gone for 8 games. Are they thinking maybe 1 tear ? QB 4 ??? A 21 day tryout before the preseason starts ?

What a freaking mess they've got themselves into. (Not new news.)

You need camp arms.

if Watson is out Brissett becomes a guy that you give some reps to but you want to protect him somewhat in preseason.

so enter Dobbs and Rosen

Westside Steve

Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.

WSS

TexasAg1969

The more the merrier. Give him a shot. Not a thing to lose by this signing.

hoorta · on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:

@calfoxwc said:

LOL, I thought you were being funny, Zombo.

No - I was all in on Josh Allen. Flugels and I have laughed about it later on....

Caught hell for it for disagreeing with Hoorta, for one. How dare I disagree with Tour!

They kept bashing Josh Allen, and I kept talking saying Josh Rosen was a very bad choice.

Note: (lol - only since you thought it was me....)

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on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:

1) Exaggerations, or facts Cal? He's the least accurate of the major prospects. Bad footwork. Bad receivers? They can't catch something thrown ten feet over their heads.

2) None of us hate Allen 1\2 as much as you hate Rosen. Not liking him as a prospect is a far cry from "hating" him. How many times do I have to say my QB rankings are 1A Mayfield, 1B Darnold, 3 Rosen, 4 Allen. If I was as big an a-hole as you are about Rosen, I wouldn't even have Allen on my draft board.

3) I haven't seen anyone around here "frantically" trying to convince anyone that we just gotta draft Rosen, master of hyperbole. And we've duly noted his positives, Mr Oblivious. Great Arm, high character......."

Thanks for proving me right Cal.. In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day. Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude.

I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers.

I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.

calfoxwc · on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:

@hoorta said:

Thanks for proving me right Cal.. In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day. Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude.

I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers.

I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.

Thanks for proving me right again.........

in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.

But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.

I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.

You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.

It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.

Orion · on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:

@hoorta said:

first round quarterback busts in the club....Joey Harrington,

I swear that kid kicked our asses every time we played him. (including pre-season)

We'll have a little QB derby in TC.

Is Dobbs still PS eligible?

Dutch Oven · on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:

@hoorta said:

Thanks for proving me right Cal.. In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day. Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude.

I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers.

I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.

Let cal have his moment hoorta, this is literally the only thing he's ever got right. ?

He'll probably have "I WAS RIGHT ABOUT JOSH ALLEN" on his tombstone.

mjp28

Wow what did I miss this afternoon ?

syd

@westside-steve said:

Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.

WSS

ummm no playbook no ota's he is so far behind and i believe it is just a ploy to try and get jimmy g for a low round pick and part of his salary picked up by san fran ala baker

Orion

@syd said:

no playbook no ota's he is so far behind

And what kind of reps is he gonna get in TC? 3rd stringers? It's not going to be easy for Rosen to become the suspension starter.....but Brissette is new to the team this year too. He's not all that far ahead.

hoorta

@calfoxwc said:

Thanks for proving me right again.........

in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.

But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.

I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.

You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.

It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.

Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?

PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.

ballpeen

@orion said:

I swear that kid kicked our asses every time we played him. (including pre-season)

We'll have a little QB derby in TC.

Is Dobbs still PS eligible?

New PS rules make nearly anyone eligible. Rosen is probably practice squad eligible.

FY56

@hoorta said:

Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum.

Well let's see.

@calfoxwc said:

Thanks for proving me right again...

PROBABLY TRUE lol

in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.

TRUE

But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.

SUBJECTIVE BUT TRUE REGARDING EGO

I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.

TRUE

You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.

TRUE

It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.

TRUE

Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?

Dutch Oven

@fy56 said:

Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?

Please use the pink font when using sarcasm, as it is hard to pick up in written form. Thanks!

FY56

The Browns sign Josh Dobbs, an aerospace engineer with a high IQ, and Josh Rosen, an economics major also having a high IQ.

Yet the Browns organization keeps getting dumber and dumber.

Flugel

@hoorta said:

Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND Allen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?

PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.

No need to bring up the political board in this discussion. A lot of the type of venom you see in the political forum is spilling over into the football forum. Take a look at some of the football threads still going 2 weeks after the end of all intelligent conversation...

I GET IT - you don't like Cal and that's fine. You didn't start hating the guy until that political forum invited you to do so. Back in 1998-99, you were both just 2 fans in Camp Couch with a common bond for whatever that's worth. When Cal is in here participating in a football topic - let's just keep the ball busting geared toward our football opinions and maniacal predictions. People busted Cal's chops endlessly (inclusive of me) about thinking Allen was the best QB prospect for the Browns so why shouldn't he have some fun with it? I don't have a problem with him reminding us or me about it. I'll just be there ready to pounce and bounce the next time he's wrong...