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  • @dutch-oven said:

    I think Dobbs and Rosen are extra arms -

    I agree more with Riffer on that.  I think they're looking for more than just 'extra arms'.  They're looking for someone who can start in case Brissette gets hurt.  They'll worry about a developmental diamond in the rough some other time.

    @orion said:

    I agree more with Riffer on that.  I think they're looking for more than just 'extra arms'.  They're looking for someone who can start in case Brissette gets hurt.  They'll worry about a developmental diamond in the rough some other time.

    I'm wondering if the BROWNS coaches and FO are just waiting for all of the pieces of this 2022 season are in so they can decide who will be the QB1, QB2 and maybe a QB3.  

    I think there will be a few scenarios until this puzzle is finished.  Eventually it will be :

    QB1 - Watson

    QB2 - Brisset ?

    QB3 - Who ever is left on the team / taxi squad ?  Someone will be traded or leave.

  • @flugel said:

    I've known and enjoyed you since 98; but this is wrong.  Cal took a lot of shit for being the only guy that predicted Josh Allen was the best QB in his draft class and you know that.  He always announces he's not a football expert all the time and you know that. 

    I'll stop you and this conversation right here.    Nobody really gave a shit about Cal backing Josh Allen.  Sure, on tape at the time, it looked REALLY dumb.   But it is what it is.    The issue I and several others took about it was Cal's way of handling himself, which is generally the theme when you run into him.    The man has a complete inability to say his piece, do so rationally, then let the results play out.      He has to reach for dumb cliche's and things that make little to no sense, and then bash you over the head with it.

    Thread after thread, link after link.  1, 2,3,4,5...etc etc posts in a row, almost like the man is having a conversation with himself.   Following it with the tenacity of a true sociopath.   This is a guy that has all but renounced the Browns, but can't walk away from talking about it. The guys has hundreds of empty, unanswered threads on this board.    Does that sound normal to you? 

    I had no problem with him not liking Rosen.  But instead of pointing it out in X's and O's, he went the creepy uncle route.  Posting pictures of Rosen with his girlfriend, asking why he dated a girl at a different school and somehow used that as a segway into "LeAdErShIp".   So... yeah, naturally and deservedly so he caught shit for that.

    I do recall also pointing out that the two things Cal loved most about Josh Allen, his size and big arm, were about the most invaluable traits at the time.  Especially when you considered CLE had tried that with Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Charlie Frye.  I even went as far as the Bills drafting JP Losman and EJ Manuel to help further that point.  At any time had there been a "Well I love his physical gifts and his eyes are very raw", then just left the Rosen thing along, you wouldn't have heard much of a peep.   It isn't so much what we say, but how we go about saying it.    

    You are welcomed to go back and watch Allen's decision making, it was REAL bad.   The product that he is now is a testament to Josh's work ethic, the Bills coaching staff, and most of all their patience.   Why patience? Because for his first 2.5 seasons in the NFL, Josh Allen was arguably one of the very worst QB's in the league.    This organization has run young QB's out of town in lesser time than that. 

    However you know what you didn't hear during that first 2.5 seasons? Cal...      not a god damn word.     He was more than willing, like so many others that didn't mention it, to not bring it up.    It's not like we're the ones doing the drafting anyway.      But Holy Hell, once Josh started to look pretty competent, you couldn't not* get Cal to mention it.   You could have been talking about something completely unrelated to football - the economy, and the man would have spun it into "You know who else is working in this economy? Josh Allen"       Showing a bit of humility can be endearing.

    It's over the top, beyond annoying and repetitive.     Of course in my time on this board before I truly joined the conversation, I do remember the man saying Weeden looked "elite" (That was Cal one of the few times he went to training camp, I believe?) and Johnny Manziel had the "it factor".        So when your record is  1-2, it's often indicative of one's temperament to show a little humility.

    When someone acts a fool... LOUDLY, then is asked to quiet down a bit, that person isn't some victim.  

    Look at the reaction I received to the work I put in to better understand Baker's struggles.    I wasn't even given a measure of respectable input back from that crowd.  No film work, no route concepts, no studies, nothing of originality to speak of.   Just links, links, links that went no where and a few more links on top of that.   No engagement, no "hey, you make a compelling point, I'm going to think about this".

    I mean, have you seen me ever jump on here to post threads about players people disagreed with 2+ years later?  Rhetorical, I've never done it once.    

    Riffer X alluded to it, but you'll notice a good deal of quality posters really don't show up here anymore.   I've been here much more infrequently the last 6 months, I expect that trend to continue.  When I get nothing back worth the time it takes to read, when no ground is made up that stirs intelligent conversation, then I'm wasting my own time.   And I don't have the patience for that anymore, which is probably why my ignore list feels like half the board at this point.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'll stop you and this conversation right here.    Nobody really gave a shit about Cal backing Josh Allen.  Sure, on tape at the time, it looked REALLY dumb.   But it is what it is.    The issue I and several others took about it was Cal's way of handling himself, which is generally the theme when you run into him.    The man has a complete inability to say his piece, do so rationally, then let the results play out.      He has to reach for dumb cliche's and things that make little to no sense, and then bash you over the head with it.

    Thread after thread, link after link.  1, 2,3,4,5...etc etc posts in a row, almost like the man is having a conversation with himself.   Following it with the tenacity of a true sociopath.   This is a guy that has all but renounced the Browns, but can't walk away from talking about it. The guys has hundreds of empty, unanswered threads on this board.    Does that sound normal to you? 

    I had no problem with him not liking Rosen.  But instead of pointing it out in X's and O's, he went the creepy uncle route.  Posting pictures of Rosen with his girlfriend, asking why he dated a girl at a different school and somehow used that as a segway into "LeAdErShIp".   So... yeah, naturally and deservedly so he caught shit for that.

    I do recall also pointing out that the two things Cal loved most about Josh Allen, his size and big arm, were about the most invaluable traits at the time.  Especially when you considered CLE had tried that with Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Charlie Frye.  I even went as far as the Bills drafting JP Losman and EJ Manuel to help further that point.  At any time had there been a "Well I love his physical gifts and his eyes are very raw", then just left the Rosen thing along, you wouldn't have heard much of a peep.   It isn't so much what we say, but how we go about saying it.    

    You are welcomed to go back and watch Allen's decision making, it was REAL bad.   The product that he is now is a testament to Josh's work ethic, the Bills coaching staff, and most of all their patience.   Why patience? Because for his first 2.5 seasons in the NFL, Josh Allen was arguably one of the very worst QB's in the league.    This organization has run young QB's out of town in lesser time than that. 

    However you know what you didn't hear during that first 2.5 seasons? Cal...      not a god damn word.     He was more than willing, like so many others that didn't mention it, to not bring it up.    It's not like we're the ones doing the drafting anyway.      But Holy Hell, once Josh started to look pretty competent, you couldn't not* get Cal to mention it.   You could have been talking about something completely unrelated to football - the economy, and the man would have spun it into "You know who else is working in this economy? Josh Allen"       Showing a bit of humility can be endearing.

    It's over the top, beyond annoying and repetitive.     Of course in my time on this board before I truly joined the conversation, I do remember the man saying Weeden looked "elite" (That was Cal one of the few times he went to training camp, I believe?) and Johnny Manziel had the "it factor".        So when your record is  1-2, it's often indicative of one's temperament to show a little humility.

    When someone acts a fool... LOUDLY, then is asked to quiet down a bit, that person isn't some victim.  

    Look at the reaction I received to the work I put in to better understand Baker's struggles.    I wasn't even given a measure of respectable input back from that crowd.  No film work, no route concepts, no studies, nothing of originality to speak of.   Just links, links, links that went no where and a few more links on top of that.   No engagement, no "hey, you make a compelling point, I'm going to think about this".

    I mean, have you seen me ever jump on here to post threads about players people disagreed with 2+ years later?  Rhetorical, I've never done it once.    

    Riffer X alluded to it, but you'll notice a good deal of quality posters really don't show up here anymore.   I've been here much more infrequently the last 6 months, I expect that trend to continue.  When I get nothing back worth the time it takes to read, when no ground is made up that stirs intelligent conversation, then I'm wasting my own time.   And I don't have the patience for that anymore, which is probably why my ignore list feels like half the board at this point.

    Regarding you and the time you spend putting together top quality football posts - I can't tell you how many times I've said to myself "I hope people appreciate the treat you provide with all the time, effort and passion you put into your posts."  The 1st day I met you we were hitting each other over the head with cyber mallets.  Back then, winning an argument was more important to us than a much better football conversation we could have had.  Having said that, we evolved to the extent we had some great football discussions despite differences of opinion.  And why?  We looked at all angles and possibilities just like football itself to see that there's a lot of right answers and some are better than others when we explain the whys. Not only that, we acknowledged when the other guy made a good point.  

    I contacted Riffer X when Westside Steve was looking for help moderating; and even more so because he's a lot like you with the type of football IQ and content he can throw together for us.  We bonded years ago because we both played OL back in BC (Before Cellphones) and he had a great sense of humor.  This is where my aggravation comes in.  Just like some of my favorite posts of your's - he didn't get a lot of positive feedback for the effort and quality.   What tends to happen is 1 guy will make a comment somewhat related to the subject.  His enemy joins in to insult the comment and IQ of the guy that made it.  The rest of that thread becomes oneupsmanship, which pisses all over your efforts to the extent you have to be left wondering "why did I just waste my time here?"   We're not going to keep good quality posters here for long if that continues. However it's important for you and everyone to know there's people that rarely post but frequent this board to read the good football posts.  I say that so people don't leave here feeling like their time spent posting football stuff is not worth it. 

    Where we disagree, I entered this thread because nobody got their balls busted worse and more frequently than Cal in the 2018 pre-draft QB discussions.  I'm not using the criteria that he has to have your football IQ or Tour's to pick his guy or why/how he goes about reading up as much as he can about the guy.  Again, none of us peg NFL QB prospects for a living so there's going to be a variety of ways guys go about their predictions in here.  I know Cal isn't popular in here these days; but he's always been a good friend to me.  I think the political board is the root of a lot of the way people perceive/feel about Cal. There's a spillover shortening the fuses when he comes to the football board. Hoorta is also a friend; but I did not like seeing the way he came after Cal in this thread.  All the reasons why are in my previous post. 

  • For what it's worth, I wanted the Browns to draft Greg Pruitt in 1973!!?

    @bob806 said:

    For what it's worth, I wanted the Browns to draft Greg Pruitt in 1973!!?

    My avatar appreciates you Bob!

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'll stop you and this conversation right here.    Nobody really gave a shit about Cal backing Josh Allen.  Sure, on tape at the time, it looked REALLY dumb.   But it is what it is.    The issue I and several others took about it was Cal's way of handling himself, which is generally the theme when you run into him.    The man has a complete inability to say his piece, do so rationally, then let the results play out.      He has to reach for dumb cliche's and things that make little to no sense, and then bash you over the head with it.

    Thread after thread, link after link.  1, 2,3,4,5...etc etc posts in a row, almost like the man is having a conversation with himself.   Following it with the tenacity of a true sociopath.   This is a guy that has all but renounced the Browns, but can't walk away from talking about it. The guys has hundreds of empty, unanswered threads on this board.    Does that sound normal to you? 

    I had no problem with him not liking Rosen.  But instead of pointing it out in X's and O's, he went the creepy uncle route.  Posting pictures of Rosen with his girlfriend, asking why he dated a girl at a different school and somehow used that as a segway into "LeAdErShIp".   So... yeah, naturally and deservedly so he caught shit for that.

    I do recall also pointing out that the two things Cal loved most about Josh Allen, his size and big arm, were about the most invaluable traits at the time.  Especially when you considered CLE had tried that with Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Charlie Frye.  I even went as far as the Bills drafting JP Losman and EJ Manuel to help further that point.  At any time had there been a "Well I love his physical gifts and his eyes are very raw", then just left the Rosen thing along, you wouldn't have heard much of a peep.   It isn't so much what we say, but how we go about saying it.    

    You are welcomed to go back and watch Allen's decision making, it was REAL bad.   The product that he is now is a testament to Josh's work ethic, the Bills coaching staff, and most of all their patience.   Why patience? Because for his first 2.5 seasons in the NFL, Josh Allen was arguably one of the very worst QB's in the league.    This organization has run young QB's out of town in lesser time than that. 

    However you know what you didn't hear during that first 2.5 seasons? Cal...      not a god damn word.     He was more than willing, like so many others that didn't mention it, to not bring it up.    It's not like we're the ones doing the drafting anyway.      But Holy Hell, once Josh started to look pretty competent, you couldn't not* get Cal to mention it.   You could have been talking about something completely unrelated to football - the economy, and the man would have spun it into "You know who else is working in this economy? Josh Allen"       Showing a bit of humility can be endearing.

    It's over the top, beyond annoying and repetitive.     Of course in my time on this board before I truly joined the conversation, I do remember the man saying Weeden looked "elite" (That was Cal one of the few times he went to training camp, I believe?) and Johnny Manziel had the "it factor".        So when your record is  1-2, it's often indicative of one's temperament to show a little humility.

    When someone acts a fool... LOUDLY, then is asked to quiet down a bit, that person isn't some victim.  

    Look at the reaction I received to the work I put in to better understand Baker's struggles.    I wasn't even given a measure of respectable input back from that crowd.  No film work, no route concepts, no studies, nothing of originality to speak of.   Just links, links, links that went no where and a few more links on top of that.   No engagement, no "hey, you make a compelling point, I'm going to think about this".

    I mean, have you seen me ever jump on here to post threads about players people disagreed with 2+ years later?  Rhetorical, I've never done it once.    

    Riffer X alluded to it, but you'll notice a good deal of quality posters really don't show up here anymore.   I've been here much more infrequently the last 6 months, I expect that trend to continue.  When I get nothing back worth the time it takes to read, when no ground is made up that stirs intelligent conversation, then I'm wasting my own time.   And I don't have the patience for that anymore, which is probably why my ignore list feels like half the board at this point.

    Regarding you and the time you spend putting together top quality football posts - I can't tell you how many times I've said to myself "I hope people appreciate the treat you provide with all the time, effort and passion you put into your posts."  The 1st day I met you we were hitting each other over the head with cyber mallets.  Back then, winning an argument was more important to us than a much better football conversation we could have had.  Having said that, we evolved to the extent we had some great football discussions despite differences of opinion.  And why?  We looked at all angles and possibilities just like football itself to see that there's a lot of right answers and some are better than others when we explain the whys. Not only that, we acknowledged when the other guy made a good point.  

    I contacted Riffer X when Westside Steve was looking for help moderating; and even more so because he's a lot like you with the type of football IQ and content he can throw together for us.  We bonded years ago because we both played OL back in BC (Before Cellphones) and he had a great sense of humor.  This is where my aggravation comes in.  Just like some of my favorite posts of your's - he didn't get a lot of positive feedback for the effort and quality.   What tends to happen is 1 guy will make a comment somewhat related to the subject.  His enemy joins in to insult the comment and IQ of the guy that made it.  The rest of that thread becomes oneupsmanship, which pisses all over your efforts to the extent you have to be left wondering "why did I just waste my time here?"   We're not going to keep good quality posters here for long if that continues. However it's important for you and everyone to know there's people that rarely post but frequent this board to read the good football posts.  I say that so people don't leave here feeling like their time spent posting football stuff is not worth it. 

    Where we disagree, I entered this thread because nobody got their balls busted worse and more frequently than Cal in the 2018 pre-draft QB discussions.  I'm not using the criteria that he has to have your football IQ or Tour's to pick his guy or why/how he goes about reading up as much as he can about the guy.  Again, none of us peg NFL QB prospects for a living so there's going to be a variety of ways guys go about their predictions in here.  I know Cal isn't popular in here these days; but he's always been a good friend to me.  I think the political board is the root of a lot of the way people perceive/feel about Cal. There's a spillover shortening the fuses when he comes to the football board. Hoorta is also a friend; but I did not like seeing the way he came after Cal in this thread.  All the reasons why are in my previous post. 

    @flugel said:

    We bonded years ago because we both played OL back in BC (Before Cellphones)

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    @riffer-x said:

    Seriously, I have no issues with signing Rosen, but I think Browns fans collectively are sleeping on Brissett. I went back and watched 4 of his starts from last year and really liked what I saw. Very hard to sack, is decisive and can make all the throws along with the ability to move the chains with his feet.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

  • @bob806 said:

    For what it's worth, I wanted the Browns to draft Greg Pruitt in 1973!!?

    My avatar appreciates you Bob!

    @flugel said:

    My avatar appreciates you Bob!

    Gregory Donald Pruitt

    Position: RB.   5-10, 190lb (178cm, 86kg)  Born: August 1. Hey almost his   71st   birthday. 

    SUMMARY

    CareerG 158. AV 82. Rush 1196.  Yds  5672.  Y/A  4.7. TD. 27. FantPt 1100.4

    8, 1951 in Houston, TX (Age: 70-340d)

    PruiGr00_2017.jpg

  • @flugel said:

    My avatar appreciates you Bob!

    Gregory Donald Pruitt

    Position: RB.   5-10, 190lb (178cm, 86kg)  Born: August 1. Hey almost his   71st   birthday. 

    SUMMARY

    CareerG 158. AV 82. Rush 1196.  Yds  5672.  Y/A  4.7. TD. 27. FantPt 1100.4

    8, 1951 in Houston, TX (Age: 70-340d)

    PruiGr00_2017.jpg

    @mjp28 said:

    Gregory Donald Pruitt

    Position: RB.   5-10, 190lb (178cm, 86kg)  Born: August 1. Hey almost his   71st   birthday. 

    SUMMARY

    CareerG 158. AV 82. Rush 1196.  Yds  5672.  Y/A  4.7. TD. 27. FantPt 1100.4

    8, 1951 in Houston, TX (Age: 70-340d)

    PruiGr00_2017.jpg

    I'm some months older than Greg Pruitt???

    .....cool. lol

  • @flugel said:

    We bonded years ago because we both played OL back in BC (Before Cellphones)

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    @riffer-x said:

    Seriously, I have no issues with signing Rosen, but I think Browns fans collectively are sleeping on Brissett. I went back and watched 4 of his starts from last year and really liked what I saw. Very hard to sack, is decisive and can make all the throws along with the ability to move the chains with his feet.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

    @tiamat63 said:

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

    @riffer-x said:

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

     I was able to draw some similar used concepts between Jacoby and Baker and a tendency they both have against single high and roll looks, though a bit more on the redemptive side for Jacoby.    I started it around 11am?  Almost 2pm now.  I should be done by 4ish.  

    Mine is just a glimpse, nothing with an insane amount of detail which I would prefer.  But it has made me think twice about Brissett and the coaching staffs he has played under.   Keep an eye on my 'Prospects' thread.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Just look at that smile.

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    Stoic & Wet Brady

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    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

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    A little flexin' with his bois

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    Hey Riffer, this spread looks like it's right out of a gay boys magazine......or is that just me.

    Moving right along.    😆

    @mjp28 said:

    Hey Riffer, this spread looks like it's right out of a gay boys magazine......or is that just me.

    Moving right along.    😆

    @mjp28 believe it or not, back in the day we had a pretty good time on here busting balls and talking football.

    The agenda driven drivel and personal/political attacks on here now are out of control and supersede any decent football talk. Too many have a stick up their collective asses.

    As mods, we need to put the hammer down on it and get it cleaned up with camp starting up.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

     I was able to draw some similar used concepts between Jacoby and Baker and a tendency they both have against single high and roll looks, though a bit more on the redemptive side for Jacoby.    I started it around 11am?  Almost 2pm now.  I should be done by 4ish.  

    Mine is just a glimpse, nothing with an insane amount of detail which I would prefer.  But it has made me think twice about Brissett and the coaching staffs he has played under.   Keep an eye on my 'Prospects' thread.

    @tiamat63 said:

     I was able to draw some similar used concepts between Jacoby and Baker and a tendency they both have against single high and roll looks, though a bit more on the redemptive side for Jacoby.    I started it around 11am?  Almost 2pm now.  I should be done by 4ish.  

    Mine is just a glimpse, nothing with an insane amount of detail which I would prefer.  But it has made me think twice about Brissett and the coaching staffs he has played under.   Keep an eye on my 'Prospects' thread.

    Yessir, will do. He has never played with a cockpit this good imo. I think folks are totally sleeping on him. The beginning of the year is also the easiest part of the schedule.

  • So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

  • Just look at that smile.

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    2029066993_Queen4.png.c1d70e76994ae869a5fc1a0bcb3b523b.png

    Stoic & Wet Brady

    1548796882_Queen5.png.eebe445dc952987787ee96ffcec92d74.png

    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

    552768136_Queen1.png.7a519c2f7fa18df4215e3880c69ea52e.png

    A little flexin' with his bois

    626286559_Queen3.png.3a5070472cafd187ddb05fa195bf64af.png

    835176632_Queen3(2).png.f2520c24c44953d34cdacc6f5f30cee2.png

    @riffer-x said:

    Just look at that smile.

    1861503337_Queen2.png.d6941855b34ef92ba592d8abdc0c463d.png

    2029066993_Queen4.png.c1d70e76994ae869a5fc1a0bcb3b523b.png

    Stoic & Wet Brady

    1548796882_Queen5.png.eebe445dc952987787ee96ffcec92d74.png

    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

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    A little flexin' with his bois

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    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

  • @riffer-x said:

    Just look at that smile.

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    Stoic & Wet Brady

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    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

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    A little flexin' with his bois

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    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

  • @hoorta said:

    Feeling all butt hurt and paranoid Cal?  Really, I've had about enough of your bullshit...  There's a difference between rational disagreement, and continuing to beat a dead horse that's rotting and smelling with illogic and spinning... Mainly because you can't admit (like someone else you worship) you can never admit you're wrong...  For the record, you can't even recognize when other posters here are getting quite a laugh out of you diving into a rabbit hole with football POVs that have been debunked- multiple times... Reality hurts sometimes.. You should try it for a change. So keep on keeping on... 

    Yeah, you guessed right about Allen, now STFU about it...  

    8 hours ago was 12:30 am when you posted the angriest reply in the thread so spare us the lecture on rational and being paranoid.  

    Just because you're a mod, doesn't give you the right to bait and bully guys just so you can Barney Fife up a suspension.  When you show up late after the wine tasting parties and hit up the Political Board thinking you're bringing the magical argument that has the difference of opinion suddenly saying "Hoorta really makes sense tonight" - is that rational Larry?  You know that's not possible so why are you there at all?  Show me 1 person on the right or left on opinionated message boards that has the ability to give 1 inch to the other side of political debate. You can't so you go there to bait and suspend?  Is that why Axe couldn't post in here?

    I've known and enjoyed you since 98; but this is wrong.  Cal took a lot of shit for being the only guy that predicted Josh Allen was the best QB in his draft class and you know that.  He always announces he's not a football expert all the time and you know that.  You also know you're going to get a chorus of approval mostly from guys that dislike Cal from the political board and 1 or 2 others that have their reason for   Whatever!  He's also been with us since 98 and you didn't hate him back then.  

    The PROBLEM I see with the political board is the divide it creates in there spills over into here.  We've even talked about this Larry. You can pretend otherwise; but look how angry you are.  I also think if you're going to be a mod - you lose your right to suspend people you bait when you reply to them the way you did above at the hour you felt it was appropriate to do so.  What the Hell did he do to you in this thread by reminding all those including me that gave him shit about Allen?  Nothing that deserved the reply you gave him. 

    @flugel said:

    The PROBLEM I see with the political board is the divide it creates in there spills over into here.  We've even talked about this Larry. You can pretend otherwise; but look how angry you are.  I also think if you're going to be a mod - you lose your right to suspend people you bait when you reply to them the way you did above at the hour you felt it was appropriate to do so.  What the Hell did he do to you in this thread by reminding all those including me that gave him shit about Allen?  Nothing that deserved the reply you gave him. 

    I consider you a friend Flugs, and I respect your opinion, so I deleted the post. However, it may have been angry- but it's 100% accurate. Tia and Tex pretty much reinforced where I'm coming from- they just worded it a little more politely.  

    @fy56 said:

    And if Cal ends up being right about Baker Mayfield as well?

    Your battles with him were epic.

    Not a Mayfield fan, but maybe I'll root for him to do well just to watch your head explode! LOL

    Unlike someone else, I have no trouble admitting it when I'm wrong... I wish Baker well, and I hope he does well with his new team. That someone else just spins, and spins, and spins until the other poster just gives up. There was no reason to rehash I'm right, you were all wet stuff from 2018. & yeah- I got baited into responding more than I should have...   

    @mjp28 said:

    I am glad to see everyone here venting all of their personal feelings,  opinions and more NOW at one time in ONE thread.

    This is an open forum of members The BROWNS BOARD  a private group with some rules and guidelines to go by NOT a public place where anyone can say anything   they want.   We are united around our team the Cleveland Browns  but we invite other NFL fans to share their opinions  within certain guidelines .   

    forum

    So let's exchange our opinions and ideas and go about our interests in the upcoming games and all of the other forums offered here.    

    There's a spillover shortening the fuses when he comes to the football board. Hoorta is also a friend; but I did not like seeing the way he came after Cal in this thread.  All the reasons why are in my previous post. 

     
    Thank you,   Michael   "mjp".

    Mike, you know how I feel about a certain poster. So with the preponderance of opinion, I'll apologize for being out of line. 

    I keep making the mistake removing the ignore I have him on to see what his current spin cycle is up to.  So I'll try to put him on total permanent ignore... Up to you and Riffer now to keep him in line. 🙂  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    I just said what needed to be said over there. Haven't checked in, but I'm sure I got blasted for it.  I just hope what goes on is a minority opinion. I've had my fill of the schoolyard insults that are perfectly OK on that forum for the time being. I didn't look it up, but I'm pretty sure one of those rants has far exceeded 300 posts. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    @riffer-x said:

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

  • @riffer-x said:

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    I'd like nothing more than to have that forum just go away.  I've been asked a bunch of times- In the words of Captain Picard to "make it so". There's plenty of essentially unmoderated political forums out there where that crew would fit right in with no problem.  

    Unfortunately we're stuck with it for the time being. 🙁 

  • @westside-steve said:

    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    @riffer-x said:

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

  • @riffer-x said:

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    Most boards have political forums. Stan always had one. If you go to the OBR, they have what they call "The Happy Sunshine Politics" forum. It is a place that nobody should venture into without hip waders and a bulletproof vest. An ability not to take things too seriously would help too.

    The reason Barry McBride (a damn good dude) keeps it there? To send folks that direction who want to start talking political trash, otherwise they start shit talking over on the main football forums. Ballpeen/Russ's board Dawgtalkers has a political genius forum as well. The Browns board that split from Stan's board (won't mention the name here) also has one, so not sure I understand where you are coming from pertaining to why a Browns first message board shouldn't have a political forum. 

    The problem here is that there hasn't been any moderation for the political spillage onto the main Browns forum of the site. It is that simple. 

    I'm not looking to ruin the fun around here, but this board has got to get better. Stan envisioned a censor less place, but times have changed to some degree. Steve has put a ton of effort into keeping Stan's baby alive and afloat, but at the rate it is going, it ain't gonna last. It will be an echo chamber for a few guys to come in daily and throw snark at their enemies. 

    A guy like Tia puts a ton of work into some of his film breakdown posts and nobody gives a shit. Threads get hijacked with nonsense and personal battles. It is going to end. Promotion of real football talk is going to start, and personal attacks are done unless completely warranted. To be concise, a "personal attack" doesn't directly connotate disagreement or debate, but there is a way to go about it.

    Posts are going to start being deleted that are nothing but snarky personal attacks that bring nothing to the discussion.

    Starting threads with every little whim of thought will be either merged or deleted. That goes for you, Cal.

    Throwing passive/aggressive political innuendos into posts will get it deleted. 

    I'm not one to passively try to dissuade shit posting. I may throw a warning or may not, but I'm also not one to play around with warnings and back and forth that much, either. 

    Start posting to others like you were sitting next to them at a bar and having a conversation. Show respect.