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  • @flugel said:

    My avatar appreciates you Bob!

    Gregory Donald Pruitt

    Position: RB.   5-10, 190lb (178cm, 86kg)  Born: August 1. Hey almost his   71st   birthday. 

    SUMMARY

    CareerG 158. AV 82. Rush 1196.  Yds  5672.  Y/A  4.7. TD. 27. FantPt 1100.4

    8, 1951 in Houston, TX (Age: 70-340d)

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    @mjp28 said:

    Gregory Donald Pruitt

    Position: RB.   5-10, 190lb (178cm, 86kg)  Born: August 1. Hey almost his   71st   birthday. 

    SUMMARY

    CareerG 158. AV 82. Rush 1196.  Yds  5672.  Y/A  4.7. TD. 27. FantPt 1100.4

    8, 1951 in Houston, TX (Age: 70-340d)

    PruiGr00_2017.jpg

    I'm some months older than Greg Pruitt???

    .....cool. lol

  • @flugel said:

    We bonded years ago because we both played OL back in BC (Before Cellphones)

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    @riffer-x said:

    Seriously, I have no issues with signing Rosen, but I think Browns fans collectively are sleeping on Brissett. I went back and watched 4 of his starts from last year and really liked what I saw. Very hard to sack, is decisive and can make all the throws along with the ability to move the chains with his feet.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

    @tiamat63 said:

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    And I appreciate the well thought-out response.     Although you aren't the reason, your words will continue to encourage me to be a little more... measured...  in my dealings with other posters.

    That being said, the bolded part gave me a good laugh - I appreciate that.

    Currently working on something I should have done in the next few hours re: Jacoby.   You might want to check back then.

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

    @riffer-x said:

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

     I was able to draw some similar used concepts between Jacoby and Baker and a tendency they both have against single high and roll looks, though a bit more on the redemptive side for Jacoby.    I started it around 11am?  Almost 2pm now.  I should be done by 4ish.  

    Mine is just a glimpse, nothing with an insane amount of detail which I would prefer.  But it has made me think twice about Brissett and the coaching staffs he has played under.   Keep an eye on my 'Prospects' thread.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Just look at that smile.

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    Stoic & Wet Brady

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    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

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    A little flexin' with his bois

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    Hey Riffer, this spread looks like it's right out of a gay boys magazine......or is that just me.

    Moving right along.    😆

    @mjp28 said:

    Hey Riffer, this spread looks like it's right out of a gay boys magazine......or is that just me.

    Moving right along.    😆

    @mjp28 believe it or not, back in the day we had a pretty good time on here busting balls and talking football.

    The agenda driven drivel and personal/political attacks on here now are out of control and supersede any decent football talk. Too many have a stick up their collective asses.

    As mods, we need to put the hammer down on it and get it cleaned up with camp starting up.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Dude, I was going to ask you about throwing something together for Brissett. I can do it as well, but backed up at work and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I broke out the TinyTake for hours. There is some damn good film of Brissett, he can play.

     I was able to draw some similar used concepts between Jacoby and Baker and a tendency they both have against single high and roll looks, though a bit more on the redemptive side for Jacoby.    I started it around 11am?  Almost 2pm now.  I should be done by 4ish.  

    Mine is just a glimpse, nothing with an insane amount of detail which I would prefer.  But it has made me think twice about Brissett and the coaching staffs he has played under.   Keep an eye on my 'Prospects' thread.

    @tiamat63 said:

     I was able to draw some similar used concepts between Jacoby and Baker and a tendency they both have against single high and roll looks, though a bit more on the redemptive side for Jacoby.    I started it around 11am?  Almost 2pm now.  I should be done by 4ish.  

    Mine is just a glimpse, nothing with an insane amount of detail which I would prefer.  But it has made me think twice about Brissett and the coaching staffs he has played under.   Keep an eye on my 'Prospects' thread.

    Yessir, will do. He has never played with a cockpit this good imo. I think folks are totally sleeping on him. The beginning of the year is also the easiest part of the schedule.

  • So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

  • Just look at that smile.

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    2029066993_Queen4.png.c1d70e76994ae869a5fc1a0bcb3b523b.png

    Stoic & Wet Brady

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    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

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    A little flexin' with his bois

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    @riffer-x said:

    Just look at that smile.

    1861503337_Queen2.png.d6941855b34ef92ba592d8abdc0c463d.png

    2029066993_Queen4.png.c1d70e76994ae869a5fc1a0bcb3b523b.png

    Stoic & Wet Brady

    1548796882_Queen5.png.eebe445dc952987787ee96ffcec92d74.png

    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

    552768136_Queen1.png.7a519c2f7fa18df4215e3880c69ea52e.png

    A little flexin' with his bois

    626286559_Queen3.png.3a5070472cafd187ddb05fa195bf64af.png

    835176632_Queen3(2).png.f2520c24c44953d34cdacc6f5f30cee2.png

    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

  • @riffer-x said:

    Just look at that smile.

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    2029066993_Queen4.png.c1d70e76994ae869a5fc1a0bcb3b523b.png

    Stoic & Wet Brady

    1548796882_Queen5.png.eebe445dc952987787ee96ffcec92d74.png

    Just look at that totally ripped throwing motion

    552768136_Queen1.png.7a519c2f7fa18df4215e3880c69ea52e.png

    A little flexin' with his bois

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    835176632_Queen3(2).png.f2520c24c44953d34cdacc6f5f30cee2.png

    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

  • @hoorta said:

    Feeling all butt hurt and paranoid Cal?  Really, I've had about enough of your bullshit...  There's a difference between rational disagreement, and continuing to beat a dead horse that's rotting and smelling with illogic and spinning... Mainly because you can't admit (like someone else you worship) you can never admit you're wrong...  For the record, you can't even recognize when other posters here are getting quite a laugh out of you diving into a rabbit hole with football POVs that have been debunked- multiple times... Reality hurts sometimes.. You should try it for a change. So keep on keeping on... 

    Yeah, you guessed right about Allen, now STFU about it...  

    8 hours ago was 12:30 am when you posted the angriest reply in the thread so spare us the lecture on rational and being paranoid.  

    Just because you're a mod, doesn't give you the right to bait and bully guys just so you can Barney Fife up a suspension.  When you show up late after the wine tasting parties and hit up the Political Board thinking you're bringing the magical argument that has the difference of opinion suddenly saying "Hoorta really makes sense tonight" - is that rational Larry?  You know that's not possible so why are you there at all?  Show me 1 person on the right or left on opinionated message boards that has the ability to give 1 inch to the other side of political debate. You can't so you go there to bait and suspend?  Is that why Axe couldn't post in here?

    I've known and enjoyed you since 98; but this is wrong.  Cal took a lot of shit for being the only guy that predicted Josh Allen was the best QB in his draft class and you know that.  He always announces he's not a football expert all the time and you know that.  You also know you're going to get a chorus of approval mostly from guys that dislike Cal from the political board and 1 or 2 others that have their reason for   Whatever!  He's also been with us since 98 and you didn't hate him back then.  

    The PROBLEM I see with the political board is the divide it creates in there spills over into here.  We've even talked about this Larry. You can pretend otherwise; but look how angry you are.  I also think if you're going to be a mod - you lose your right to suspend people you bait when you reply to them the way you did above at the hour you felt it was appropriate to do so.  What the Hell did he do to you in this thread by reminding all those including me that gave him shit about Allen?  Nothing that deserved the reply you gave him. 

    @flugel said:

    The PROBLEM I see with the political board is the divide it creates in there spills over into here.  We've even talked about this Larry. You can pretend otherwise; but look how angry you are.  I also think if you're going to be a mod - you lose your right to suspend people you bait when you reply to them the way you did above at the hour you felt it was appropriate to do so.  What the Hell did he do to you in this thread by reminding all those including me that gave him shit about Allen?  Nothing that deserved the reply you gave him. 

    I consider you a friend Flugs, and I respect your opinion, so I deleted the post. However, it may have been angry- but it's 100% accurate. Tia and Tex pretty much reinforced where I'm coming from- they just worded it a little more politely.  

    @fy56 said:

    And if Cal ends up being right about Baker Mayfield as well?

    Your battles with him were epic.

    Not a Mayfield fan, but maybe I'll root for him to do well just to watch your head explode! LOL

    Unlike someone else, I have no trouble admitting it when I'm wrong... I wish Baker well, and I hope he does well with his new team. That someone else just spins, and spins, and spins until the other poster just gives up. There was no reason to rehash I'm right, you were all wet stuff from 2018. & yeah- I got baited into responding more than I should have...   

    @mjp28 said:

    I am glad to see everyone here venting all of their personal feelings,  opinions and more NOW at one time in ONE thread.

    This is an open forum of members The BROWNS BOARD  a private group with some rules and guidelines to go by NOT a public place where anyone can say anything   they want.   We are united around our team the Cleveland Browns  but we invite other NFL fans to share their opinions  within certain guidelines .   

    forum

    So let's exchange our opinions and ideas and go about our interests in the upcoming games and all of the other forums offered here.    

    There's a spillover shortening the fuses when he comes to the football board. Hoorta is also a friend; but I did not like seeing the way he came after Cal in this thread.  All the reasons why are in my previous post. 

     
    Thank you,   Michael   "mjp".

    Mike, you know how I feel about a certain poster. So with the preponderance of opinion, I'll apologize for being out of line. 

    I keep making the mistake removing the ignore I have him on to see what his current spin cycle is up to.  So I'll try to put him on total permanent ignore... Up to you and Riffer now to keep him in line. 🙂  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So is this what cal's nonsense on the Poliboard looks like?

    Just one post after another of him talking to himself? 

    Quality stuff, here. 

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    I just said what needed to be said over there. Haven't checked in, but I'm sure I got blasted for it.  I just hope what goes on is a minority opinion. I've had my fill of the schoolyard insults that are perfectly OK on that forum for the time being. I didn't look it up, but I'm pretty sure one of those rants has far exceeded 300 posts. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You obviously don't visit there enough. This is rather short and tame compared to the ongoing rant-a-thons over there.??

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    @riffer-x said:

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

  • @riffer-x said:

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    I'd like nothing more than to have that forum just go away.  I've been asked a bunch of times- In the words of Captain Picard to "make it so". There's plenty of essentially unmoderated political forums out there where that crew would fit right in with no problem.  

    Unfortunately we're stuck with it for the time being. 🙁 

  • @westside-steve said:

    The ones posted years ago must have been photoshoped

    WSS

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    @riffer-x said:

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

  • @riffer-x said:

    Yeah, but it spills over to here and that's a huge problem along with the political innuendo.

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's almost like a Browns-first message board shouldn't even have a political board... 

    Most boards have political forums. Stan always had one. If you go to the OBR, they have what they call "The Happy Sunshine Politics" forum. It is a place that nobody should venture into without hip waders and a bulletproof vest. An ability not to take things too seriously would help too.

    The reason Barry McBride (a damn good dude) keeps it there? To send folks that direction who want to start talking political trash, otherwise they start shit talking over on the main football forums. Ballpeen/Russ's board Dawgtalkers has a political genius forum as well. The Browns board that split from Stan's board (won't mention the name here) also has one, so not sure I understand where you are coming from pertaining to why a Browns first message board shouldn't have a political forum. 

    The problem here is that there hasn't been any moderation for the political spillage onto the main Browns forum of the site. It is that simple. 

    I'm not looking to ruin the fun around here, but this board has got to get better. Stan envisioned a censor less place, but times have changed to some degree. Steve has put a ton of effort into keeping Stan's baby alive and afloat, but at the rate it is going, it ain't gonna last. It will be an echo chamber for a few guys to come in daily and throw snark at their enemies. 

    A guy like Tia puts a ton of work into some of his film breakdown posts and nobody gives a shit. Threads get hijacked with nonsense and personal battles. It is going to end. Promotion of real football talk is going to start, and personal attacks are done unless completely warranted. To be concise, a "personal attack" doesn't directly connotate disagreement or debate, but there is a way to go about it.

    Posts are going to start being deleted that are nothing but snarky personal attacks that bring nothing to the discussion.

    Starting threads with every little whim of thought will be either merged or deleted. That goes for you, Cal.

    Throwing passive/aggressive political innuendos into posts will get it deleted. 

    I'm not one to passively try to dissuade shit posting. I may throw a warning or may not, but I'm also not one to play around with warnings and back and forth that much, either. 

    Start posting to others like you were sitting next to them at a bar and having a conversation. Show respect.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    Speaking of Steve... The Brady Quinn pro\con debate got so heated, it almost blew up the board. A bunch of guys left in a huff and started their own board. 

    PS... I've had enough of the Political Forum for the time being.  & sorry if I got a little too heated there too.  Scanning it without logging in, just more of the same old, same topics and rants. You can tell the guys that they've successfully ran me off. (for now) 

  • @riffer-x said:

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    Well, just to be clear, this isn't me dogging Brady Quinn as a person or a QB. I was a supporter of his and liked him over DA, but we had a legendary m-fer on here named Lumberg who was from Oregon State and quite possibly a relative or friend of DA. One of the best trolls ever. Most on the board now have no recollection, but what a card. I was a mod then and the board was huge and popping, but all I ever got was PMs from folks who were sick of Lumberg lol. He even had the Gary Cole character as his avatar. 

    I just wish some of the folks here knew how much fun we had on this board back then and before. Great football talk with plenty of humor to go around. 

    BTW, I know Brady not personally but through a couple of acquaintances in C-Bus. Very cool guy who has done well for himself and is a pretty good analyst and commentator. I always maintain he got too beefed up for the QB position.

  • @riffer-x said:

    Couldn't find the one with Queen and his bois in they bikinis.

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    Since you mentioned the Grapester, here's some insight: Garoppolo's contract is a heavy hit for a guy coming off surgery, even if the Browns negotiated (similar to Carolina with Baker) and only paid let's say half of what he is due, that would be $13 million less that they can rollover to next year where we are already over the cap. For those that don't understand rollover, it is pretty basic -- whatever cap you have left over from one year can be rolled over to the next. If you spend it, say on Jim Gs, it isn't rolled over. That is why many fans have the misconception that teams aren't using their whole cap. Next year, Watson's contract will hit. We are going to need all the carryover money we can get. So, my point is, don't buy into media rumor bullshit about us signing this guy or that guy. Not saying it can't happen, but circumstances would have to be dire.

    Brissett cap hit -- $4.65 million

    Watson cap hit -- $10.03 million

    Baker cap hit -- $10.5 million

    Possible Garoppolo cap hit -- $13 million

    That would be a cap hit total of $38.18 million for 2022, none of which can be rolled over to next season. And that is not including Dobbs and Rosen.

    Not to mention, Garoppolo had surgery in March on his actual throwing shoulder. That is scary in itself, and he hasn't even been cleared to start throwing yet.

    I would be shocked if the Browns decided to go down this path, but the window is here now, and the money is available. I also don't see Jimmy being an upgrade over Brissett in this scheme and probably not being healthy.

    https://overthecap.com/player/jimmy-garoppolo/3001

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  • @westside-steve said:

    When he was being considered out of the draft for Cleveland somebody posted one. Looked like a grocery store clerk. Oh well. Still the guy got a raw deal but I agree with you that Brissette probably isn't dog s*** either.

    I'd also really be surprised if Jimmy G came here as a placeholder.

    We shall see. 

    WSS

    Speaking of Steve... The Brady Quinn pro\con debate got so heated, it almost blew up the board. A bunch of guys left in a huff and started their own board. 

    PS... I've had enough of the Political Forum for the time being.  & sorry if I got a little too heated there too.  Scanning it without logging in, just more of the same old, same topics and rants. You can tell the guys that they've successfully ran me off. (for now) 

    @hoorta said:

    Speaking of Steve... The Brady Quinn pro\con debate got so heated, it almost blew up the board. A bunch of guys left in a huff and started their own board. 

    PS... I've had enough of the Political Forum for the time being.  & sorry if I got a little too heated there too.  Scanning it without logging in, just more of the same old, same topics and rants. You can tell the guys that they've successfully ran me off. (for now) 

    I love you Larry but you are as big an a****** as anybody over there.

    I liked Brady Guinn. Irish, from Ohio want to Notre Dame that I love when they're not playing the Buckeyes and related to one of my relatives named Quinn around Carrol or Tuscarawas County so I heard..

    He didn't work out and he pissed me off when he held out and missed training camp or was at least too late to learn the system. S*** happens. I'm going to delete this one pretty soon and let you guys b**** about politics in your basement.

    WSS

  • @flugel said:

    The PROBLEM I see with the political board is the divide it creates in there spills over into here.  We've even talked about this Larry. You can pretend otherwise; but look how angry you are.  I also think if you're going to be a mod - you lose your right to suspend people you bait when you reply to them the way you did above at the hour you felt it was appropriate to do so.  What the Hell did he do to you in this thread by reminding all those including me that gave him shit about Allen?  Nothing that deserved the reply you gave him. 

    I consider you a friend Flugs, and I respect your opinion, so I deleted the post. However, it may have been angry- but it's 100% accurate. Tia and Tex pretty much reinforced where I'm coming from- they just worded it a little more politely.  

    @fy56 said:

    And if Cal ends up being right about Baker Mayfield as well?

    Your battles with him were epic.

    Not a Mayfield fan, but maybe I'll root for him to do well just to watch your head explode! LOL

    Unlike someone else, I have no trouble admitting it when I'm wrong... I wish Baker well, and I hope he does well with his new team. That someone else just spins, and spins, and spins until the other poster just gives up. There was no reason to rehash I'm right, you were all wet stuff from 2018. & yeah- I got baited into responding more than I should have...   

    @mjp28 said:

    I am glad to see everyone here venting all of their personal feelings,  opinions and more NOW at one time in ONE thread.

    This is an open forum of members The BROWNS BOARD  a private group with some rules and guidelines to go by NOT a public place where anyone can say anything   they want.   We are united around our team the Cleveland Browns  but we invite other NFL fans to share their opinions  within certain guidelines .   

    forum

    So let's exchange our opinions and ideas and go about our interests in the upcoming games and all of the other forums offered here.    

    There's a spillover shortening the fuses when he comes to the football board. Hoorta is also a friend; but I did not like seeing the way he came after Cal in this thread.  All the reasons why are in my previous post. 

     
    Thank you,   Michael   "mjp".

    Mike, you know how I feel about a certain poster. So with the preponderance of opinion, I'll apologize for being out of line. 

    I keep making the mistake removing the ignore I have him on to see what his current spin cycle is up to.  So I'll try to put him on total permanent ignore... Up to you and Riffer now to keep him in line. 🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    I consider you a friend Flugs, and I respect your opinion, so I deleted the post. However, it may have been angry- but it's 100% accurate. Tia and Tex pretty much reinforced where I'm coming from- they just worded it a little more politely.  

    Good job with that Larry! 

    I got what Tia and Mr Me-Aggies said.  Just to simplify it all back to how many of us (especially me) that busted Cal's chops about Josh Allen - he deserves the right to remind us of that every now and then.  He has far more posts admitting he isn't a football expert than ones where he's bragging.  

    Reality, regardless of football IQs, NFL QB prospects coming out of college remain the easiest position to peg wrong.  Even a HOF QB/GM like John Elway can't do it.  On our board (pre-draft), Patrick Mahomes and DeShaun Watson weren't any more gotta-have in here than Josh Allen was.  So we can mock out how Cal researches QB prospects by reading articles all we want.  Bottom-line: if a bunch of us are going to give him shit and he ends up being the only one that predicted Josh Allen was going to be great - he has the bragging rights.  It is what it is...