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  • @nickers said:

    FUCK the TARDIANS!

    You must be an absolute joy to know in real life.

    @dutch-oven said:

    You must be an absolute joy to know in real life.

    hahha he has me on ignore I musta hurt his feelings

  • as i said unless the judge sez o games or the nfl and nflpa can come to terms on games Watson vs baker in sep

  • @orion said:

    Who knows...she might have already given her verdict to Roger GoToHell and he's taking HIS sweet time.  (he likes to do that as I recall from Josh Gordon)  Or he told her, NO, go back and rethink that until you come up with a longer suspension.  My understanding is that Roger can approve or over rule her decision.  

    After dropping the decision in her lap it would be a bad look for the NFL to try to overrule her decision. Anybody have any idea of her track record of decisions before this?

    This decision could wind up having wide-ranging effect on the entire me too movement in which accusations can deep six anybody.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    After dropping the decision in her lap it would be a bad look for the NFL to try to overrule her decision. Anybody have any idea of her track record of decisions before this?

    This decision could wind up having wide-ranging effect on the entire me too movement in which accusations can deep six anybody.

    WSS

    https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/06/who-is-sue-l-robinson-the-retired-federal-judge-hearing-the-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case.html?outputType=amp
     

    I posted this a few weeks ago. Like any decent Judge committed to ensuring “due process” which I think is important here given the media smear job 

  • @orion said:

    Who knows...she might have already given her verdict to Roger GoToHell and he's taking HIS sweet time.  (he likes to do that as I recall from Josh Gordon)  Or he told her, NO, go back and rethink that until you come up with a longer suspension.  My understanding is that Roger can approve or over rule her decision.  

    After dropping the decision in her lap it would be a bad look for the NFL to try to overrule her decision. Anybody have any idea of her track record of decisions before this?

    This decision could wind up having wide-ranging effect on the entire me too movement in which accusations can deep six anybody.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

     Anybody have any idea of her track record of decisions before this?

    WSS

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  • @westside-steve said:

    After dropping the decision in her lap it would be a bad look for the NFL to try to overrule her decision. Anybody have any idea of her track record of decisions before this?

    This decision could wind up having wide-ranging effect on the entire me too movement in which accusations can deep six anybody.

    WSS

    https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/06/who-is-sue-l-robinson-the-retired-federal-judge-hearing-the-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case.html?outputType=amp
     

    I posted this a few weeks ago. Like any decent Judge committed to ensuring “due process” which I think is important here given the media smear job 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/06/who-is-sue-l-robinson-the-retired-federal-judge-hearing-the-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case.html?outputType=amp
     

    I posted this a few weeks ago. Like any decent Judge committed to ensuring “due process” which I think is important here given the media smear job 

    In a perfect world of course. Just curious because there's a paper trail that is scrutinized whenever someone is nominated to the Supreme Court for example. By the way smear job? What in particular would the smear job be?

    WSS

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/06/who-is-sue-l-robinson-the-retired-federal-judge-hearing-the-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case.html?outputType=amp
     

    I posted this a few weeks ago. Like any decent Judge committed to ensuring “due process” which I think is important here given the media smear job 

    In a perfect world of course. Just curious because there's a paper trail that is scrutinized whenever someone is nominated to the Supreme Court for example. By the way smear job? What in particular would the smear job be?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    In a perfect world of course. Just curious because there's a paper trail that is scrutinized whenever someone is nominated to the Supreme Court for example. By the way smear job? What in particular would the smear job be?

    WSS

    Pick a ruling.   Some group will be incited.  Later it will be the center of an agenda so either the candidate or the party wilts

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    @orion said:

    Who knows...she might have already given her verdict to Roger GoToHell and he's taking HIS sweet time.  (he likes to do that as I recall from Josh Gordon)  Or he told her, NO, go back and rethink that until you come up with a longer suspension.  My understanding is that Roger can approve or over rule her decision.  

    nflpa would sue the hell out of godell if that happened(what ever her findings it is public domain) and the only way godell can not appeal is if she says 0 games 

    @syd said:

    nflpa would sue

    Yup.  That's the plan.  And perhaps that's what's slowing things down.  I just don't trust Roger.

  • The problem here is there are 6 sides to satisfy...

    1) the angry fans that hate him

    2) the angry fans that love and support DW

    3) the women who feel offended

    4) the team that gave a kings ransom for him (The Clownz)

    5) The NFL and the Browns who would desperately like to generate income from his star power...

    6) And DW himself...

    That's a lot for Judge Robinson to take in and deal with... While I don't envy her position... I wish the damn Lady would render a decision so everyone can get on with their football lives....

  • ^^^ Lucky #7^^^ Time was on her side ?

    It's about to get ugly...

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/07/22/nfl-will-have-to-deal-its-treatment-of-owners-in-all-future-personal-conduct-policy-cases-against-players/

    Oversight Committee for Daniel Snyder to testify. With the deposition of Commanders owner Daniel Snyder set to commence on Thursday at 8:00 a.m.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/07/28/house-oversight-committee-reports-that-dan-snyder-will-provide-full-and-complete-testimony-on-thursday/

  • @westside-steve said:

    In a perfect world of course. Just curious because there's a paper trail that is scrutinized whenever someone is nominated to the Supreme Court for example. By the way smear job? What in particular would the smear job be?

    WSS

    Pick a ruling.   Some group will be incited.  Later it will be the center of an agenda so either the candidate or the party wilts

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Pick a ruling.   Some group will be incited.  Later it will be the center of an agenda so either the candidate or the party wilts

    Sorry I just don't see enough to give me a good idea of which way she might lean in this particular issue. Doesn't matter but I am curious.

    WSS

  • Well Mike Florio missed his guess. It wasn't by last Friday. Nor was it Monday before the start of training camp. Plus no matter how she rules, the Commish can make it whatever he wants since he did not get locked in by the deal made with the Players Association. What a way to run a railroad (job).?

  • Maybe Jimmah can pick up Massage Envy as a corporate sponsor if they use this helmet design?

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  • sydS syd

    as i said unless the judge sez o games or the nfl and nflpa can come to terms on games Watson vs baker in sep

    @syd said:

    as i said unless the judge sez o games or the nfl and nflpa can come to terms on games Watson vs baker in sep

    I believe that the NFLPA and NFL Inc. will do anything to keep that joint money machine NFL  ?  football  moving happily along.  The two sides drink out of the same enormous $$$$$  well.

    I don't believe after the winter, spring and summer (so far)  of all of this noise that we will see a   -0- game   suspension 8 i imagine is still on the table.   But 17 games I don't know. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Pick a ruling.   Some group will be incited.  Later it will be the center of an agenda so either the candidate or the party wilts

    Sorry I just don't see enough to give me a good idea of which way she might lean in this particular issue. Doesn't matter but I am curious.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Sorry I just don't see enough to give me a good idea of which way she might lean in this particular issue. Doesn't matter but I am curious.

    WSS

    Oh yes.  As long as deshawn-watson-legal-issues  keeps moving along it's still a sports and more page 1 story.

    If you're a Cleveland BROWNS fan it's very much a page 1 story. 

    SO,  GO ......

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  • Maybe Jimmah can pick up Massage Envy as a corporate sponsor if they use this helmet design?

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    @canton-dawg said:

    Maybe Jimmah can pick up Massage Envy as a corporate sponsor if they use this helmet design?

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    That won't work he's facing downward. Unless of course that's the anal massage portion of the service.

    WSS 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Maybe Jimmah can pick up Massage Envy as a corporate sponsor if they use this helmet design?

    5129D898-FE65-4C47-B62C-45535C72F1CF.png

    That won't work he's facing downward. Unless of course that's the anal massage portion of the service.

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    That won't work he's facing downward. Unless of course that's the anal massage portion of the service.

    WSS 

    Well rumour has it DW likes toy massages in his poop chute!... So theres that...

  • has nickers ever posted anything positive here ? or anything with any real substance ?  or just the ole bullshit

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Pick a ruling.   Some group will be incited.  Later it will be the center of an agenda so either the candidate or the party wilts

    Sorry I just don't see enough to give me a good idea of which way she might lean in this particular issue. Doesn't matter but I am curious.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Sorry I just don't see enough to give me a good idea of which way she might lean in this particular issue. Doesn't matter but I am curious.

    WSS

    I don’t see someone with an agenda either. 

    I like that the NFL brought in a retired Judge.  She’s more likely to use the letter of the law and consider precedence for her decision…and she likely has a keen BS detector having heard mountains of it throughout her career. 

  • She has so much to consider, to be fair. It's so stupid that this could have been avoided.

    You know, we were watching the Indians play last week - and Tom Hamilton mentioned that (best I can quote) "If you try to find a bad character on this Guardians team, well, good luck to ya, because the Dolans take good character very, very seriously...."

       So here we are. The haslams just threw that all into the dumpster. Probably by now, they regret it. Watson lied to the browns...what a mess, ....they have paid so huge a price to be so desperate.

    Almost August, and here we are....

    All this now, and maybe Zombo said it best back on June 8th:

    ***********************************

    Zombo said:

    When we first signed Watson, I was happy. I defended him. "Ok, he's  REALLY into massage girls, likes happy endings, and while inappropriate,  his behavior is not criminal. This attorney has a personal vendetta for him and is very good at coaching these women that they have been wronged" 

    The Browns said they vetted the hell out of the situation and that Watson was a good person and they wanted to build around him.

    Watson said he did nothing wrong, and since we were in He Said / She Said territory, and there were no criminal charges ... I was all in on the new QB of the Cleveland Browns.

    The NY Times article flipped things for me. I saw him as a different person: He manipulated the Texans, he lied to the Browns, and he lied to us at his press conference. 

    No one needs 66 different massage women in 17 months. No one needs a luxury hotel room where different massage girls are sent. No one needs a massage girl to sign a NDA unless creepy things are happening.

    We traded our future away and paid $243 M guaranteed to a lying creep.

    Oh ... my Browns.

    The draft picks are gone.

    But we can sue Watson for lying and then Jimmy can sell the team to a fucking hands off owner and let the football people run the team.

    He just keeps fucking up.

    But that's probably not happening. We will probably have Briskett go 9-8 this year and then we will have to start letting some talent go because of Watson's back ended guaranteed contract and never get to the Super Bowl while we root for a team led by this creep.

    Oh ... my Browns ?

    Z

  • Friday July 29 coming up and nothing new so far.

      We are looking at Monday August 1 and just waiting for the other shoe to drop and get some kind of decision to happen.   Let's move this case along no matter what the decision is.....now is that too much to ask ?   * Dragging this thing out   at this time    isn't good or necessary for anyone.

    So what's the under / over now on the big decision day ?  Wednesday August 3 at 12 noon.....sound about right to you ?  I'm betting on the UNDER there.

    Shocking but this thing has to end......sometime.    That's  6.5 days or LESS  from midnight tonight.      Book it !         😆

    .......* edit add,  7/29 noon,   hope this doesn't delay anything.     😕