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Revisiting the AR-15

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  • They probably want to ban muzzle loaders

  • @mld-woody said:

    We've enacted laws that address the issue of second hand smoke. Other than that, an individual's choice regarding smoking isn't going to directly affect you (generally). No one is going on a mass second hand smoke rampage at a mall. 

    Unless you're speaking towards someone making a choice that is better in the short term that inevitably hurts them long term. 

    And responsible gun owners aren't going on mass rampages at the mall either. An individual's choice regarding self-defense isn't going to directly affect you (generally). The government shouldn't punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of criminals. 

    And this isn't so much about focusing more on short term fixes than long term, it's that we aren't focusing at all on actual long term improvements. It isn't "arm everyone now and then we'll look at these other measures". It's "arm everyone now and then problem solved". 

    This improvement process has to start with a first step and that first step isn't going to solve everything magically overnight. But we refuse to even take that first step. 

    Mississippi Board of Education just took the first step today and removed the ban on teachers carrying firearms. This is a first step, albeit one you don't like. I believe all of us are on the same page in saying that we want to see a reduction in all gun crime. No one is saying that the problem of mass shootings is now solved. They're still going to happen. This will hopefully be a deterrent that makes schools less attractive targets for mass shooters. 

    @vaportrail said:

    And responsible gun owners aren't going on mass rampages at the mall either. An individual's choice regarding self-defense isn't going to directly affect you (generally). The government shouldn't punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of criminals. 

    Mississippi Board of Education just took the first step today and removed the ban on teachers carrying firearms. This is a first step, albeit one you don't like. I believe all of us are on the same page in saying that we want to see a reduction in all gun crime. No one is saying that the problem of mass shootings is now solved. They're still going to happen. This will hopefully be a deterrent that makes schools less attractive targets for mass shooters. 

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  • simple point - "a knife caused" this mentally messed up attacker to go after a REP gov candidate, Lee Zeldin - NY, because knives are so easy to buy":

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/stab-attack-lee-zeldin-ny

    @calfoxwc said:

    simple point - "a knife caused" this mentally messed up attacker to go after a REP gov candidate, Lee Zeldin - NY, because knives are so easy to buy":

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/stab-attack-lee-zeldin-ny

    Not to mention the countless Smiths that can make their own knives... Whose gonna stop them...

  • AR-15 =Red Herring. 

    WSS

  • I wonder if Woody owns a knife. Knives are so easy to get, you know.

    If he does, I sure hope that knife doesn't force him to kill somebody with it.

  • I wonder if Woody owns a knife. Knives are so easy to get, you know.

    If he does, I sure hope that knife doesn't force him to kill somebody with it.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I wonder if Woody owns a knife. Knives are so easy to get, you know.

    If he does, I sure hope that knife doesn't force him to kill somebody with it.

    I have a few knives... I'm a collector and am a Bushcraft hiker...

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I wonder if Woody owns a knife. Knives are so easy to get, you know.

    If he does, I sure hope that knife doesn't force him to kill somebody with it.

    I have a few knives... I'm a collector and am a Bushcraft hiker...

    @nickers said:

    I have a few knives... I'm a collector and am a Bushcraft hiker...

    I'm a Camelbak hiker and a Ruger 9mm toter, unlike all you Brokeback hikers with knives hanging out.?

  • It's legal to conceal carry a weapon in the National Parks as long as it is legal in the State in which they are located.  

  • @nickers said:

    I have a few knives... I'm a collector and am a Bushcraft hiker...

    I'm a Camelbak hiker and a Ruger 9mm toter, unlike all you Brokeback hikers with knives hanging out.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm a Camelbak hiker and a Ruger 9mm toter, unlike all you Brokeback hikers with knives hanging out.?

    Does that mean you have a camel toe?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'm a Camelbak hiker and a Ruger 9mm toter, unlike all you Brokeback hikers with knives hanging out.?

    Does that mean you have a camel toe?

    @nickers said:

    Does that mean you have a camel toe?

    Only if I can get one to hike with me, preferably from Nero's country which is close to Venezuela for having some of the most beautiful women in the world.?

  • It's legal to conceal carry a weapon in the National Parks as long as it is legal in the State in which they are located.  

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    It's legal to conceal carry a weapon in the National Parks as long as it is legal in the State in which they are located.  

    Yes, it is and that is why I will continue to keep my LTC in force since I hike Colorado's RMNP every year. Colorado and Texas have reciprocity, but only Texas lets you carry without a license now. I'll just keep it since I don't want to encounter a mama bear who takes a shine to me as a potential threat to the little ones. Out in the wilds I make racket with my walking stick up against trees so they don't get surprised and have plenty of time to get away.

  • @nickers said:

    Does that mean you have a camel toe?

    Only if I can get one to hike with me, preferably from Nero's country which is close to Venezuela for having some of the most beautiful women in the world.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Only if I can get one to hike with me, preferably from Nero's country which is close to Venezuela for having some of the most beautiful women in the world.?

    You're alright man ?

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    It's legal to conceal carry a weapon in the National Parks as long as it is legal in the State in which they are located.  

    Yes, it is and that is why I will continue to keep my LTC in force since I hike Colorado's RMNP every year. Colorado and Texas have reciprocity, but only Texas lets you carry without a license now. I'll just keep it since I don't want to encounter a mama bear who takes a shine to me as a potential threat to the little ones. Out in the wilds I make racket with my walking stick up against trees so they don't get surprised and have plenty of time to get away.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yes, it is and that is why I will continue to keep my LTC in force since I hike Colorado's RMNP every year. Colorado and Texas have reciprocity, but only Texas lets you carry without a license now. I'll just keep it since I don't want to encounter a mama bear who takes a shine to me as a potential threat to the little ones. Out in the wilds I make racket with my walking stick up against trees so they don't get surprised and have plenty of time to get away.

    My pal up in Alaska would tell you your 9mm isn't going to stop a bear. First time up North, I brought along my .357 python for just that reason. Bernie just laughed at me...  Said, "you're only going to piss the bear off".  Alaska way, if you want to have any hope of stopping a bear, folks up there carry a .44 magnum for a sidearm.  🙂 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Yes, it is and that is why I will continue to keep my LTC in force since I hike Colorado's RMNP every year. Colorado and Texas have reciprocity, but only Texas lets you carry without a license now. I'll just keep it since I don't want to encounter a mama bear who takes a shine to me as a potential threat to the little ones. Out in the wilds I make racket with my walking stick up against trees so they don't get surprised and have plenty of time to get away.

    My pal up in Alaska would tell you your 9mm isn't going to stop a bear. First time up North, I brought along my .357 python for just that reason. Bernie just laughed at me...  Said, "you're only going to piss the bear off".  Alaska way, if you want to have any hope of stopping a bear, folks up there carry a .44 magnum for a sidearm.  🙂 

    @hoorta said:

    My pal up in Alaska would tell you your 9mm isn't going to stop a bear. First time up North, I brought along my .357 python for just that reason. Bernie just laughed at me...  Said, "you're only going to piss the bear off".  Alaska way, if you want to have any hope of stopping a bear, folks up there carry a .44 magnum for a sidearm.  🙂 

    I don't know the numbers but it would be my guest that maybe one in 10,000 people who own a 9 mm or a 44 Magnum or a 357 Magnum or an AR-15 have ever even seen a bear and among that small number maybe 01% have ever had reason to be threatened by said bear. Just a guess.

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    WSS 

  • @hoorta said:

    My pal up in Alaska would tell you your 9mm isn't going to stop a bear. First time up North, I brought along my .357 python for just that reason. Bernie just laughed at me...  Said, "you're only going to piss the bear off".  Alaska way, if you want to have any hope of stopping a bear, folks up there carry a .44 magnum for a sidearm.  🙂 

    I don't know the numbers but it would be my guest that maybe one in 10,000 people who own a 9 mm or a 44 Magnum or a 357 Magnum or an AR-15 have ever even seen a bear and among that small number maybe 01% have ever had reason to be threatened by said bear. Just a guess.

    ?

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    I don't know the numbers but it would be my guest that maybe one in 10,000 people who own a 9 mm or a 44 Magnum or a 357 Magnum or an AR-15 have ever even seen a bear and among that small number maybe 01% have ever had reason to be threatened by said bear. Just a guess.

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    WSS 

    I've seen 'em but never been threatened by one. But that's why I make noise on hikes. The most dangerous bear is a mama with cubs when she feels like she needs to protect from humans who managed to get right on 'em because they used no warning system to give the bears plenty of opportunity to get very clear of potential human danger to the cubs. But I still carry it with Corbin +P deep penetrating rounds that actually can kill a bear if you have no choice but to use it right up close. Of course I'd prefer not to harm any at all. I carry along a bear horn too to scare 'em away as a first option.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Only if I can get one to hike with me, preferably from Nero's country which is close to Venezuela for having some of the most beautiful women in the world.?

    You're alright man ?

    @nickers said:

    You're alright man ?

    I'm sure we could share a beer some time if I ever make it up for a game.??

  • N Neo

    Here we go again with the AR-15. It is a weapon platform designed specifically to be carried by the United States military. The rights were sold to Colt which started marketing them to civilians and law enforcement. It is and always will be an assault rifle. Changing the select fire feature doesn't make it any less deadly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

    @neo said:

    Here we go again with the AR-15. It is a weapon platform designed specifically to be carried by the United States military. The rights were sold to Colt which started marketing them to civilians and law enforcement. It is and always will be an assault rifle. Changing the select fire feature doesn't make it any less deadly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

    Here we go again having to explain what an assault rifle is. The current version of the AR-15 is not an assault rifle.

    The original ArmaLite AR-15 is unique among all rifles using the "AR-15" trademark, in that it is capable of selective fire and is an assault rifle. All other AR-15 style rifles are semi-automatic-only and descend from the civilian version, the Colt AR-15.

    The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic, a machine gun.

  • N Neo

    Here we go again with the AR-15. It is a weapon platform designed specifically to be carried by the United States military. The rights were sold to Colt which started marketing them to civilians and law enforcement. It is and always will be an assault rifle. Changing the select fire feature doesn't make it any less deadly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

    @neo said:

    Here we go again with the AR-15. It is a weapon platform designed specifically to be carried by the United States military. The rights were sold to Colt which started marketing them to civilians and law enforcement. It is and always will be an assault rifle. Changing the select fire feature doesn't make it any less deadly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

    Here we go again having to explain what an assault rifle is. The current version of the AR-15 is not an assault rifle.

    The original ArmaLite AR-15 is unique among all rifles using the "AR-15" trademark, in that it is capable of selective fire and is an assault rifle. All other AR-15 style rifles are semi-automatic-only and descend from the civilian version, the Colt AR-15.

    The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic, a machine gun.