Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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NFL was warned about Deshaun Watson's suspension length in June, giving league month to consider taking control of outcome
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Arbitrator's early signal shaped Watson-NFL settlement talks
Robinson putting the NFL on notice during the hearings brings some clarity to what followed in the Watson case in July. It explains why media leaks began almost instantly that Watson would get a lesser punishment than the league was pushing for. It also explains why Watson’s camp and the union were emboldened to take a hard line in settlement talks, which ultimately ended with the NFL suggesting a 12-game suspension and a fine that would have accounted for a significant portion of the $10.5 million Watson earned with the Houston Texans in 2021. To some engaged in the talks, it felt like the NFL was trying to turn Watson’s final season with the Texans (in which he never took the field) into a retroactive suspension. It was something the NFL could later point to and say, “Look, he lost most of what he made in 2021 and never took the field. So he was basically suspended. Now he’s suspended another 12 games on top of that.”...
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So the league has bowed to the media crying last 2 days. If I'm the Union...GAME ON...I'm playing Watson game 1. I wish the same media members had the same energy for Kraft(WHO HAD A VIDEO), Snyder, Jerry Jones, Texans FO....
I wouldn't play Watson game 1... My strategy would be to sit out the 6 games... I'd rather have Watson available in the latter half of the season.. Assuming we make the playoffs...
I wouldn't play Watson game 1... My strategy would be to sit out the 6 games... I'd rather have Watson available in the latter half of the season.. Assuming we make the playoffs...
Browns plan to play Deshaun Watson in preseason, but he won’t play the first six weeks of regular season
Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2022, 7:47 PM EDT -
Ida paid triple that rate. She was that good looking and humorously engaged in conversation about her hometown with this old fart. I think she brought out my best Spanish for sure.?
You should’ve brought out the French! ?
You should’ve brought out the French! ?
Hmmm. I better ask Nero how the Spanish feel about the French before I give that a try. Ironically I was once stopped in Paris by a couple looking for the location of a hostel I had just seen down another street. I guess because of my Texas suntan and dark brown hair they asked me in Spanish. Funny to be mistaken for a Spaniard in the middle of Paris.? But they were happy I could tell them where it was.?
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We know what happened. Media pressure from some commentators and outraged women's groups that the punishment was insufficient, and the socially conscious NFL couldn't fold fast enough. Ban the scumbag for life!!! Don't try and tell me that the NFL doesn't bend over backwards trying to engage women who might be vaguely interested in football. The pink Critical Catch thing is just one example.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
The appeal leading to a longer suspension is your assumption, and a questionable one at best.
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We know what happened. Media pressure from some commentators and outraged women's groups that the punishment was insufficient, and the socially conscious NFL couldn't fold fast enough. Ban the scumbag for life!!! Don't try and tell me that the NFL doesn't bend over backwards trying to engage women who might be vaguely interested in football. The pink Critical Catch thing is just one example.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
Regarding your BOLD... The fans had absolutely no say in who the owner is, or had any part in the decision to bring Deshaun and his mountain of baggage into Cleveland... So just stop saying the FANS should suffer because Management decided the humongous risk of bad PR was worth the potential reward in the long run. You'd totally have to have your head up your ass if you somehow think had Watson signed with a different team, said team wouldn't have been equally reamed out in every media outlet you care to name.
Nah, Dutch... It is what it is... As a season ticket holder should DW get hit with a season ban, it probably won't affect how I'm viewing this season, I'll hope for the best, and a lot of luck.
Sure, the majority of opinion outside of the Cleveland market says a longer suspension is warranted, but it's hardly a unanimous POV. The NFL fans of either gender outside of Cleveland are just superficially looking at the numbers, 60+, um 24, um now one? Get out the rope and hang the guy. Onkyo pointed out the NFL only found a handful of offended parties (was it 4 or something like that)? when they brought their case to the arbitrator. I said it elsewhere- you can spew any kind of fairy tale crap - within in reason-any political figures come to mind- you listening Alex Jones?- in the media you want to- (the sleazier the better) but say the same stuff under oath with perjury hanging over your head? Different story. The Texas Grand Juries- with Watson not being able to defend himself against the accusations (in two different counties) said there was nothing criminal going on.
Yeah Dutch- Watson is a sleaze, and not very smart either in regards to getting sexual jollies. But it looks like the Court of Public Opinion has already tried him and found him guilty. Legally... Not so much. Stay tuned.
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Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
Yeah, that's what the Steelers get for trying to replace one pervert with another.
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www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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Absolutely ridiculous.
Literally the only pocket of people who are outraged that he's going to get a much longer suspension is Browns fans.
Geez, I wonder why?
The Browns deserve every bit of the never-ending shit circus they brought to town ON THEMSELVES. They are not victims, they sold their souls, and they'll deal with the consequences.
I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
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I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
I assume none of the cases were strong enough just he said she said and I don't doubt some of them are just money grabs, but there's enough of a predatory pattern as was stated in the report. So probably not much need to bog the courts down with all 24 cases. Plus those women decided that even if they were offended or abused that the pay was enough to make it easy to live with. I get that too. Plenty of disturbing language in the report. And... Pittsburgh Steeler equals cheap shot. Cleveland Browns equals good clean hit.
WSS
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Have any of these hot take radio phone callers, ever claimed to have wives or daughters in the professional massage business? NO !
They hate anything to do with the Browns.. than they call the next radio show, claiming the same ?
My sister in law is a professional masseuse. She thinks this is all a sham. As she relayed to me any true professional would never have had a second appointment if they were so horrified by the first one. If someone asked her about a happy ending or rubbing his groin she’ would ask them to leave and never make another appointment. Every other legit pro would too.
My sister in law is a professional masseuse. She thinks this is all a sham. As she relayed to me any true professional would never have had a second appointment if they were so horrified by the first one. If someone asked her about a happy ending or rubbing his groin she’ would ask them to leave and never make another appointment. Every other legit pro would too.
Not to be rude but did she tell you exactly what the up charge would be for the happy ending?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
I agree with you Dutchman. And let's keep it honest: how loudly would we all be laughing if it were the Pittsburgh Steelers that made this exact same deal and were sitting in the same spot we are in right now?
WSS
Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
Maybe you're not from Cleveland. Steve chose the Steelers for a reason.
If I have to explain you wouldn't understand.
Eh maybe you would.
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Boon, I anticipate a deeply religious experience.
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You should’ve brought out the French! ?
Hmmm. I better ask Nero how the Spanish feel about the French before I give that a try. Ironically I was once stopped in Paris by a couple looking for the location of a hostel I had just seen down another street. I guess because of my Texas suntan and dark brown hair they asked me in Spanish. Funny to be mistaken for a Spaniard in the middle of Paris.? But they were happy I could tell them where it was.?
Hmmm. I better ask Nero how the Spanish feel about the French before I give that a try. Ironically I was once stopped in Paris by a couple looking for the location of a hostel I had just seen down another street. I guess because of my Texas suntan and dark brown hair they asked me in Spanish. Funny to be mistaken for a Spaniard in the middle of Paris.? But they were happy I could tell them where it was.?
Well I've been to Europe... One thing I can tell you about the French and Spanish... They are obnoxious loud mouths... I was on a cruise And they were loud and boisterous...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I pretty much agree with Mr. Pluto. I've said the same. The optics are terrible. Right out of the gate, the NFL throws their agreed upon arbitrator under the bus because they don't like her decision.
I'll wait until after the appeal is finalized, but if it turns out Watson is suspended for a year (as the NFL has wanted all along) why bother going through the charade of even having an independent arbitrator?
Yep, the wimp NFL caves in to public pressure, and if they don't meet the NFLPA 1\2 way on increased sanctions, the court battles are going to be long and ugly.
I hope 8 games, a $5 million fine (going to a battered women's group), and counseling would placate the pitchforks crowd, but I doubt it. Nothing short of a lifetime ban will be enough for some of those folks.
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Hmmm. I better ask Nero how the Spanish feel about the French before I give that a try. Ironically I was once stopped in Paris by a couple looking for the location of a hostel I had just seen down another street. I guess because of my Texas suntan and dark brown hair they asked me in Spanish. Funny to be mistaken for a Spaniard in the middle of Paris.? But they were happy I could tell them where it was.?
Well I've been to Europe... One thing I can tell you about the French and Spanish... They are obnoxious loud mouths... I was on a cruise And they were loud and boisterous...
Well I've been to Europe... One thing I can tell you about the French and Spanish... They are obnoxious loud mouths... I was on a cruise And they were loud and boisterous...
I would imagine a cruise brings out the worst in a lot of people
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Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
Maybe you're not from Cleveland. Steve chose the Steelers for a reason.
If I have to explain you wouldn't understand.
Eh maybe you would.
Maybe you're not from Cleveland. Steve chose the Steelers for a reason.
If I have to explain you wouldn't understand.
Eh maybe you would.
I spent 18 years just outside of Cleveland. I hate Pittsburgh. I make sure to throw browns stuff on Franco Harris statute at the Pittsburgh Airport.
I know why he picked Pittsburgh.
i mentioned those teams because it appears moving forward anyone or any team Should be concerned with the policy and it’s application.
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Steelers Ravens Browns Bengals Pats whomever whatever.
The Most alarming or should be at least for every NFL player is how loosely the NFL defines key elements of its conduct policy and caves to public opinion. This was what I took from the NFLs investigation.
That and 4 of the 66 women gathered up in this - he crossed the lines during a massage but apparently not a forceful way as the NFL described and this is very consistent with the grand jury findings and the settlement numbers with the civil suits.
Again I’m trying to wrap my head around and get into the brain space of this year plus suspension crowd.
I assume none of the cases were strong enough just he said she said and I don't doubt some of them are just money grabs, but there's enough of a predatory pattern as was stated in the report. So probably not much need to bog the courts down with all 24 cases. Plus those women decided that even if they were offended or abused that the pay was enough to make it easy to live with. I get that too. Plenty of disturbing language in the report. And... Pittsburgh Steeler equals cheap shot. Cleveland Browns equals good clean hit.
WSS
I assume none of the cases were strong enough just he said she said and I don't doubt some of them are just money grabs, but there's enough of a predatory pattern as was stated in the report. So probably not much need to bog the courts down with all 24 cases. Plus those women decided that even if they were offended or abused that the pay was enough to make it easy to live with. I get that too. Plenty of disturbing language in the report. And... Pittsburgh Steeler equals cheap shot. Cleveland Browns equals good clean hit.
WSS
Or presented exculpatory evidence that we aren’t told about or accuser texts messages to Deshaun that were leaked
Things are rarely as black and white as the Media and now society tries to make it out as
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Hmmm. I better ask Nero how the Spanish feel about the French before I give that a try. Ironically I was once stopped in Paris by a couple looking for the location of a hostel I had just seen down another street. I guess because of my Texas suntan and dark brown hair they asked me in Spanish. Funny to be mistaken for a Spaniard in the middle of Paris.? But they were happy I could tell them where it was.?
Well I've been to Europe... One thing I can tell you about the French and Spanish... They are obnoxious loud mouths... I was on a cruise And they were loud and boisterous...
One thing I can tell you about the French and Spanish... They are obnoxious loud mouths...
I'll bet you they're saying that American called Nickers is way too quiet. He has that dangerous church mouse silence people should be worried about...
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