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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Next time just pick up one of their Spanish acoustical guitars and play for 'em. They'll love ya! Might even get one of the senoritas to do a little flamenco for ya. Oh Lay!!??

    Well funny you should mention that... I'm actually tackling a Flamenco piece called "Asturias" which was written on and for piano... But it actually translates better for Classical guitar...  It's very tricky and it has a lot of alternate picking technique.. I have just about mastered the main theme and technique.. Now I just have to assemble the rest of the parts like Lego blocks so to speak... It's quite challenging... I'm also working on Eddie Van Halens Intro to "Little Guitars"... I'm gonna do my own arrangement where I combine both pieces together.. It just sounds like a perfect fit...

    @nickers said:

    Well funny you should mention that... I'm actually tackling a Flamenco piece called "Asturias" which was written on and for piano... But it actually translates better for Classical guitar...  It's very tricky and it has a lot of alternate picking technique.. I have just about mastered the main theme and technique.. Now I just have to assemble the rest of the parts like Lego blocks so to speak... It's quite challenging... I'm also working on Eddie Van Halens Intro to "Little Guitars"... I'm gonna do my own arrangement where I combine both pieces together.. It just sounds like a perfect fit...

    Post 'em for us when you feel you have a good recording. I love the sound of classical guitar. My wife and I had front row seats for Christopher Parkening many years ago. It was absolutely wonderful. Sometimes he made it sound like two guitars playing at once. Here ya go. His version of "Asturias".

  • This is all about the look .

    Goodell can say hey we tried to get more. 

    I fully expect the 6 games to stand. 

  • This is all about the look .

    Goodell can say hey we tried to get more. 

    I fully expect the 6 games to stand. 

    @silver-slayer said:

    This is all about the look .

    Goodell can say hey we tried to get more. 

    I fully expect the 6 games to stand. 

    1 Year and a hefty fine. Goodell appointed a woman because he thought she would do even worse than that minimum. Backfired on him.

  • @vambo said:

    By what I gather Harvey works for Goodell (off and on) so I would imagine he knows what he is going to decide...

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    Exactly, the NFLPA should have demanded the contract language MLB has.. A totally independent source to hear the league's appeal, not someone with ties to the NFL. 

    That's not saying this guy isn't qualified, I just hope he can be 1\2 objective.  

  • @orion said:

    🙂  I hear ya.  But...that's his side of the story.  And the Three Musketeers, Jimmuh, Dee and son-in-law, did a thorough investigation prior to visiting him.  🙂  But honestly, I think that if the Musketeers came to think that Watson was some sort of perv they wouldn't have moved forward with the plan.  I assuming that they've got SOME SORT of threshold one needs to meet.   I'm hoping...

    The Haslams? The same people who ripped off trucking businesses for a shitload of money?

    I think what happened on this board is that Training Camp started, some people who were anti-Watson started getting excited about the upcoming season, and while they might not like him, they know he's a definite upgrade over Baker. A top notch QB with THIS roster? Man... this could be a great team! Oh, Watson is going to only miss the first six games? Well, that won't kill the Browns. Watson might be sleazy, but its not like I know any of those women, and he's probably learned his lesson, and man this team could be great, and football is finally back, and OH WHAT THE HOLY FUCK NOW GODDELL IS GOING TO WRECK OUR GREAT SEASON!!!!!????? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Haslams? The same people who ripped off trucking businesses for a shitload of money?

    I think what happened on this board is that Training Camp started, some people who were anti-Watson started getting excited about the upcoming season, and while they might not like him, they know he's a definite upgrade over Baker. A top notch QB with THIS roster? Man... this could be a great team! Oh, Watson is going to only miss the first six games? Well, that won't kill the Browns. Watson might be sleazy, but its not like I know any of those women, and he's probably learned his lesson, and man this team could be great, and football is finally back, and OH WHAT THE HOLY FUCK NOW GODDELL IS GOING TO WRECK OUR GREAT SEASON!!!!!????? 

    Really reached the point I'm numb to it all Dutch. If Watson gets a whole year, the Haslam's have no one but themselves to blame for doing shoddy research.  We won games last year with a one armed Baker. We can certainly win games with Brissett. 

    And we know an entire season is going to be appealed, the Soap Opera will continue. I'm hoping for some sort of compromise. Less than a year, and a hefty fine. 

    PS The hatahs hoping that the Browns lose every game because of Watson can go find another team to root for, they won't be missed. 

  • 1. So did Roger really appoint Peter Harvey who played a role in drafting the conduct policy?  I’m asking the question because it was mentioned he helped formulate the policy…is that true?  Seems like a conflict of interest to me if so.

    2.  If he’s getting 12 games it is better that it be the entire season.  We are better off having his contract start to toll in 2023…so he gets into a groove by Week 16 when we are 7-8 at best.   I would trade Clowney and any other soon to be 2023 free agent. I’m sorry but 8-9 is no longer appealing.  Boy the Texans arguably more culpable make out handsomely with an extended suspension…is this what the NFL wants.

    3. We talk about “bad” precedence that the NFL finds itself in over and over again.  This situation makes it worse.  What is Sue Robinsons role? 
     

    4. Haslem and Co. overestimated the role the public opinion would play in this case.  They may have reviewed the cases, reviewed the NFLs prior stances, reviewed the new procedure and had a solid ground for the signing BUT they didn’t weigh public opinion and when you are talking about penalties and “legal” proceedings it has no place in the equation.
     

    5. Robert Kraft what a joke.  I hope Nick Chubb puts 250 on them in a runaway game and our stadium welcomes Kraft to Cleveland 

  • 1. So did Roger really appoint Peter Harvey who played a role in drafting the conduct policy?  I’m asking the question because it was mentioned he helped formulate the policy…is that true?  Seems like a conflict of interest to me if so.

    2.  If he’s getting 12 games it is better that it be the entire season.  We are better off having his contract start to toll in 2023…so he gets into a groove by Week 16 when we are 7-8 at best.   I would trade Clowney and any other soon to be 2023 free agent. I’m sorry but 8-9 is no longer appealing.  Boy the Texans arguably more culpable make out handsomely with an extended suspension…is this what the NFL wants.

    3. We talk about “bad” precedence that the NFL finds itself in over and over again.  This situation makes it worse.  What is Sue Robinsons role? 
     

    4. Haslem and Co. overestimated the role the public opinion would play in this case.  They may have reviewed the cases, reviewed the NFLs prior stances, reviewed the new procedure and had a solid ground for the signing BUT they didn’t weigh public opinion and when you are talking about penalties and “legal” proceedings it has no place in the equation.
     

    5. Robert Kraft what a joke.  I hope Nick Chubb puts 250 on them in a runaway game and our stadium welcomes Kraft to Cleveland 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    2.  If he’s getting 12 games it is better that it be the entire season.  We are better off having his contract start to toll in 2023…

    Yup.  Push his contract out a year.  That'll learn him!  Otherwise, they're actually screwing the Browns more than him.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    Exactly, the NFLPA should have demanded the contract language MLB has.. A totally independent source to hear the league's appeal, not someone with ties to the NFL. 

    That's not saying this guy isn't qualified, I just hope he can be 1\2 objective.  

    @hoorta said:

    That's not saying this guy isn't qualified, I just hope he can be 1\2 objective.  

    Well????!!!! Maybe if he is..................................... ?

  • This is all about the look .

    Goodell can say hey we tried to get more. 

    I fully expect the 6 games to stand. 

    @silver-slayer said:

    This is all about the look .

    Goodell can say hey we tried to get more. 

    I fully expect the 6 games to stand. 

    I wish I could agree.  I think he's gonna be GoToHell's perfect little minion and do what Roger wants so he can position himself for more paying gigs like this in the future.   

  • Check out this version of Malaguena... This guy has amazing technique and feel...

  • Check out this version of Malaguena... This guy has amazing technique and feel...

    @nickers said:

    Check out this version of Malaguena... This guy has amazing technique and feel...

    eh....I can do THAT on my harmonica around a campfire..... lol

  • @nickers said:

    Check out this version of Malaguena... This guy has amazing technique and feel...

    eh....I can do THAT on my harmonica around a campfire..... lol

    @calfoxwc said:

    eh....I can do THAT on my harmonica around a campfire..... lol

    I need to get me a new mouth harp. I have my grandkids hoodwinked into thinking I can play a harmonica. Funny thing is I never play the same "number" a second time and I'm smart enough not to take any "ole favorites" requests.?

  • Check out this version of Malaguena... This guy has amazing technique and feel...

    @nickers said:

    Check out this version of Malaguena... This guy has amazing technique and feel...

    And he has Jimi Hendrix\ Kurt Cobain fingers... That sorta helps... 🙂  

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  • @vambo said:

    By what I gather Harvey works for Goodell (off and on) so I would imagine he knows what he is going to decide...

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place.

    The guest opening sentence is troubling enough.. 'He's a former this. He's a former that.He help'd do this"

    The 2 major factor's are he's not retired like Sue & He works for the NFL, unlike Sue....Sue or any agreed upon official arbitrator's are being used as the final nail in case's across America, if 2 unions don't agree.... This is the NFL backed by owners with mountains of money saying "We will always have the final hammer to *our players" 

    The NFLPA & NFL knew about these actions when such player last played after the 2020* season.. Seriously.. How can a federal  court trust either of these 2 sides after 2 years of not handling your own blind ignorance to ignore it..

    The feds should not open a page into this, and in 10 minutes rule that your agreed upon Sue Robinson's ruling is final.... and Good Bye!  ?  

  • Wow didn't take long for this thread to turn into guitars and whatever. 

    But then again any thread with Watson + anything is doomed to be another Watson-o-matic bunch of rehashed stuff.

    Can't wait until next week  real football with someone under center.   Oh yeah are you ready....oh nevermind.

    GO BROWNS.....baby.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I would absolutely love to see what some of your wives and daughters would think of what some of you have written about this subject. 

    My wife recognizes it for what it is. Gold digging and woke mob frenzy. 

    @jcam222 said:

    My wife recognizes it for what it is. Gold digging and woke mob frenzy. 

    ....Judge Sue came to the conclusion that Watson physically touched many women with his penis, and ejaculated on them.  She considered his actions in some instances to constitute sexual assault.  However you want to slice it....It's interesting that you and your wife apparently wouldn't mind dudes rubbing their dicks in her face and ejaculating without consent etc.  She sounds like a winner.  I'd like to think that both you and she, didn't bother to actually read any of the findings and have just surrendered your ability to think for yourselves over to political rabble rousers.  I certainly hope thats the case at least.

    Ok...other point....

    I think it's very important, and being overlooked completely, that the Tom Brady deflategate case, essentially confirmed that the language in the CBA does in fact give Roger Goodell, the power and authority to render ANY AND ALL player discipline at his sole discretion.  It's in the contract.  The players voted for it, and signed off on it.  The court confirmed it.  Goodell does NOT have to prove his punishment is consistent, he doesn't have to prove he did or didn't appropriately punish Kraft or Jones or Ross or whoever.  He can apply discipline at his discretion without having to meet any sort of standard or burden of proof.  There would be ZERO chance Watson would win anything in court when the precedent has already been set on this.  They can dig up stuff on the owners etc all day long and make a mountain of paperwork...and it won't matter because Goodell has the power to do whatever he chooses.

    I think he would like to have avoided all this by having a woman judge bring down the hammer, taking the pressure and burden off him to do it...and looking like a hypocrite.  He's now forced to act and he absolutely can. no matter what the NFLPA says they would do in court.  Goodell already had his right to dictatorship affirmed in court.  

  • Wow didn't take long for this thread to turn into guitars and whatever. 

    But then again any thread with Watson + anything is doomed to be another Watson-o-matic bunch of rehashed stuff.

    Can't wait until next week  real football with someone under center.   Oh yeah are you ready....oh nevermind.

    GO BROWNS.....baby.

    @mjp28 said:

    Wow didn't take long for this thread to turn into guitars and whatever.

    Well if you noticed I PC'd the mouth harp somewhat like the Guardians did their former name. At Walmart they now call it the Jaw Harp.???

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  • @laiccm said:

    So the league has bowed to the media crying last 2 days. If I'm the Union...GAME ON...I'm playing Watson game 1. I wish the same media members had the same energy for Kraft(WHO HAD A VIDEO), Snyder, Jerry Jones, Texans FO....

    I wouldn't play Watson game 1... My strategy would be to sit out the 6 games... I'd rather have Watson available in the latter half of the season.. Assuming we make the playoffs...

    @nickers said:

    I wouldn't play Watson game 1... My strategy would be to sit out the 6 games... I'd rather have Watson available in the latter half of the season.. Assuming we make the playoffs...

    I see where you coming from....but I would want to play hard ball...that lawsuit could go on all year and the NFLPA will need an injunction for him to play game 7 anyway