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  • @vambo said:

    By what I gather Harvey works for Goodell (off and on) so I would imagine he knows what he is going to decide...

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    You don't watch your own videos? It's very simple.

    Harvey has had a long-term relationship with Goodell and the NFL..helped to write the personal behavior policy and determining punishment.

    It was best Goodell chose an independent and a woman rather than face backlash for selecting "one of his own". He now has no choice because it didn't work out the way he had hoped. I believe plan A and B was the strategy all along.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    You don't watch your own videos? It's very simple.

    Harvey has had a long-term relationship with Goodell and the NFL..helped to write the personal behavior policy and determining punishment.

    It was best Goodell chose an independent and a woman rather than face backlash for selecting "one of his own". He now has no choice because it didn't work out the way he had hoped. I believe plan A and B was the strategy all along.

    @fy56 said:

    I believe plan A and B was the strategy all along.

    Absolutely.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Makes me wonder why he didn't appoint him in the first place cutting out the middlewoman. This made zero sense to me, but then so does the contract with the NFLPA that set this ridiculous scenario up in the first place. If I were in a union, I'd have fired those guys for such a stupid agreement with the NFL.

    You don't watch your own videos? It's very simple.

    Harvey has had a long-term relationship with Goodell and the NFL..helped to write the personal behavior policy and determining punishment.

    It was best Goodell chose an independent and a woman rather than face backlash for selecting "one of his own". He now has no choice because it didn't work out the way he had hoped. I believe plan A and B was the strategy all along.

    @fy56 said:

    You don't watch your own videos? It's very simple.

    Harvey has had a long-term relationship with Goodell and the NFL..helped to write the personal behavior policy and determining punishment.

    It was best Goodell chose an independent and a woman rather than face backlash for selecting "one of his own". He now has no choice because it didn't work out the way he had hoped. I believe plan A and B was the strategy all along.

    Yeah I did and I got it. I just think it is so obviously devious that the NFLPA either had very stupid negotiators or they are a worthless organization to the players.

  • Dallas Cowboys owner Geritol Jones said that was common practice from the NFLPA.

    "It is a standard players association comeback," he told Hill. "That is the drill. That is the drill to go around to say you didn't punish such and such. Anybody would know that every player case and every case that involves non-players in the NFL are dealing with dramatically different principle facts, which is all the difference in the world." ? #here'syourasshat ?

    Jones, however, sees no merit in the NFLPA citing any of the aforementioned situations as a way of arguing a double standard in how discipline is doled out for players compared to owners, believing each situation should be judged individually.(hows both sides, one agreed upon Individual, hit ya Geritol?)

    "It would be like walking down to the courthouse and saying, 'You didn't give that guy that much' and not take into account what the action was or the circumstances behind it," he said. "That's called shooting volleys. That's just shooting stuff over your back. That's the way I look at it when I see something like that."  ?

    today's press meeting in Dallas.. more BS at BR.. I post no links from that place ?

    Florio, more on who is Peter Harvey?https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/07/in-the-deshaun-watson-appeal-will-peter-harvey-give-the-nfl-anything-other-than-what-the-nfl-wants/

  • I’ve seen it stated that the appeal is supposed be be handled quickly. Has anyone seen definition of “quickly”? 

  • Tony Grossi predicted that we'd know by tomorrow this morning on  ESPN 850.

  • I’ll reserve my opinion of what it should be and wait until the appeal decision is made.


    this should make some of you happy…

    I was surprised by some elements:

    1. no fine. If his actions caused harm and put the NFL in negative light and the NFL was to show these outraged support groups support for the harm given to them than what does a small game check withheld do in the grand scheme of things. 
     

    2. treatment post suspension.  If his conduct in four of the sixty six or twenty five cases was egregious…where’s the “let’s not get here again component” or the rehabilitation component.   He must be a standup guy and only go with team approved therapist.  Strange ruling given the analysis made. 
     

    Now…going anything over 6 is above and beyond any precedent set and almost requires a comparison of cases (which our lovely Jerry J thinks is not applicable to the NFL- I disagree).

    Just as Watson’s conduct was attacked The conduct policy was equally if not more attacked under the original opinion.  Adding more than four games above the original punishment you are almost accepting the policy and its flaws and it’s puzzling applications.    8 or even 10 is a safe number to eliminate this scrutiny.   
     

  • I’ve seen it stated that the appeal is supposed be be handled quickly. Has anyone seen definition of “quickly”? 

    @jcam222 said:

    I’ve seen it stated that the appeal is supposed be be handled quickly. Has anyone seen definition of “quickly”? 

    That would depend on what your definition of 'is' is.

  • NFLPA backs off notion of an injunction that would let Deshaun Watson play in Week One

    https://sports.yahoo.com/nflpa-backs-off-notion-injunction-001453655.html

  • @vambo said:

    Just more clickbait bullshit. It’s been debunked in many articles months ago. It’s the typical way out front office writes deals. Multiple players on the team had deals with around $1M in the first year and the majority in subsequent years. I thin perhaps Myles extension was one of those. 

  • @vambo said:

    Just more clickbait bullshit. It’s been debunked in many articles months ago. It’s the typical way out front office writes deals. Multiple players on the team had deals with around $1M in the first year and the majority in subsequent years. I thin perhaps Myles extension was one of those. 

    @jcam222 said:

    Just more clickbait bullshit. It’s been debunked in many articles months ago. It’s the typical way out front office writes deals. Multiple players on the team had deals with around $1M in the first year and the majority in subsequent years. I thin perhaps Myles extension was one of those. 

    Click bait?

    No s*** it's probably 95% of the reporting. By reporters with barely more insight that a bunch of mugs on a message board who usually have less knowledge of what's going on than the guy that fetches coffee for the ball boy in Berea.

    WSS

  • @nickers said:

    Well it looks like Dirty Roger is pushing a year suspension...

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34375432/roger-goodell-says-evidence-calls-least-full-year-suspension-cleveland-browns-qb-deshaun-watson

    Shocking.

    If I selected the appeal officer I might refrain from giving my opinion until the ruling comes down on the appeal.  
     

    But the dictator has spoken. 

  • As a husband and father of two daughters, chalking this whole thing up to the woke mob is insulting.  Suggesting that Watson should suffer some sort of consequences befitting his transgressions isn’t a question or test of political beliefs.  I don’t doubt some of the women are motivated by money etc.  I am convinced not all of them were/are.  Regardless, I’d hope if you were ever in a position to deal out discipline to someone who had acted as Watson di toward my wife or daughters, that you’d bring the hammer down and not simply play his behavior off as the cancel culturists out for a witch hunt.  

    can kraft now be stricken of

    @pat-mahomo said:

    As a husband and father of two daughters, chalking this whole thing up to the woke mob is insulting.  Suggesting that Watson should suffer some sort of consequences befitting his transgressions isn’t a question or test of political beliefs.  I don’t doubt some of the women are motivated by money etc.  I am convinced not all of them were/are.  Regardless, I’d hope if you were ever in a position to deal out discipline to someone who had acted as Watson di toward my wife or daughters, that you’d bring the hammer down and not simply play his behavior off as the cancel culturists out for a witch hunt.  

    Consider this home, 

    I walked into a massage parlor. 

    They asked for 60 dollars for an hour massage. 

    I laid face down and received a good back rub.

    The misuse then handed a pillow and motion to turn over. 

    Midway through the front side she began working my junk

    Me being a young guy with stamina i squirted my load right in her face.

    She was a bit surprised it squirted that far but heyyy  

    Who had their face in THE LINE OF FIRE?

    Please define where sexual assault was within the hypothetical case i just wrote?

    What if she pointed it towards my face and I painted my face because of her aim?

    Can I then bring a suit against her for sexual misconduct????

  • If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men 

    2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y

  • If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men 

    2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y

    @silver-slayer said:

    If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men 

    2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y

    And double on Rainy Monday.?️

  • In massage lay-men's terms ?... This means to hurry up !

    Per Flo, 

    The NFL is believed to be looking for an indefinite suspension of at least one year as well as a fine. The initial ruling by Sue L. Robinson did not include any monetary penalty for Watson.

    Former New Jersey Attorney General Peter Harvey was selected to hear the appeal by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Harvey has served on advisory committees for the league and consulted with the league on the Personal Conduct Policy that was used to suspend Watson.

    The policy calls for an expedited decision on appeal, so Harvey’s ruling should come in the near future and provide the Browns with clarity about when they might have their big acquisition of the year in the lineup.

    It's the HOF weekend...  hurry! The NFL suits are all in Canton...  see ya around Hump Day !

    @gumby73 said:

    In massage lay-men's terms ?... This means to hurry up !

    It's the HOF weekend...  hurry! The NFL suits are all in Canton...  see ya around Hump Day !

    Expedited from last Friday... and here we are at Hump ? Day! 

    Did we really need to wait to see & hear Roger express his same, year suspension that started this whole process? Fuk Roger & "I'm still your executioner of player conduct policy" ..  

    What day should the Browns prepare for Watson's real games missed? 

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  • If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men 

    2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y

    @silver-slayer said:

    If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men 

    2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y

    blckcry.jpg