Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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Browns will consider Jimmy Garoppolo if Deshaun Watson’s 6-game suspension increases
Browns will consider Jimmy Garoppolo if Deshaun Watson’s 6-game suspension increases
I've thought that all along. But it's so late in the game now, how would you get him up to speed? I certainly hope it doesn't come to that.
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Great. Another team wants to dump an expensive qb they are unhappy with...., and the browns don't have three first round picks to trade for him. Still, I wish they had traded for Garoppolo the first time.
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Great. Another team wants to dump an expensive qb they are unhappy with...., and the browns don't have three first round picks to trade for him. Still, I wish they had traded for Garoppolo the first time.
I wish they had traded for Garoppolo the first time.
But they wouldn't have done that because he wasn't that much of an upgrade over Baker. But he probably IS an upgrade over Brissette.
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NFLPA planning aggressive defense for ‘unprecedented’ Deshaun Watson punishment
https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/nflpa-preparing-aggressive-defense-for-deshaun-watson/
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Goodell can say that, but will he get it? Hope for 12 games an a big fine. Compromise is a good thing.
It is going to take 10 wins to make the playoffs.
Can Brissett get us to .500 includes games with (TB, NE, Cincy, LA, Miami, Baltimore, Buffalo and then a cold Watson goes 4-1 in the 5 game span he plays in that includes each AFC North team once.
It’s Playoffs or bust.
If they are thinking 12 may as well be the season so we don’t burn a year on the contract and it’s cap friendly again in 2023.
They should add a fine and add a treatment requirement.
It is going to take 10 wins to make the playoffs.
Can Brissett get us to .500 includes games with (TB, NE, Cincy, LA, Miami, Baltimore, Buffalo and then a cold Watson goes 4-1 in the 5 game span he plays in that includes each AFC North team once.
It’s Playoffs or bust.
If they are thinking 12 may as well be the season so we don’t burn a year on the contract and it’s cap friendly again in 2023.
They should add a fine and add a treatment requirement.
Plus we end up with a higher draft choice for Houston............................................LOL!
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It is going to take 10 wins to make the playoffs.
Can Brissett get us to .500 includes games with (TB, NE, Cincy, LA, Miami, Baltimore, Buffalo and then a cold Watson goes 4-1 in the 5 game span he plays in that includes each AFC North team once.
It’s Playoffs or bust.
If they are thinking 12 may as well be the season so we don’t burn a year on the contract and it’s cap friendly again in 2023.
They should add a fine and add a treatment requirement.
Plus we end up with a higher draft choice for Houston............................................LOL!
Plus we end up with a higher draft choice for Houston............................................LOL!
Yeah don’t get me started on Innocent Houston.
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Deshaun Watson willing to accept an 8-game suspension and $5 million fine, AP reports
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12 Games and a Substantial Fine.
what it would mean…
Win for the Texans- they will get a first round pick now in the low mid teens. Keep in mind they’ve been accused of wrong doing here.
Loss- Screaming Public and Media- they want a year and possibly indefinite with reinstatement provisions. But they’ll have a short attention span and forget it all in two weeks. On to the next social issue.
Big Loss- Deshaun obvious reasons.
Massive Loss for the Browns and it’s Fans- Season is essentially lost. Watson goes to Year 2 of his contract and the cap in 2023 becomes an area of concern now for the Browns. Window is closer to being shut.
Massive Loss for the Browns and it’s Fans- Season is essentially lost. Watson goes to Year 2 of his contract
^ This.
If they give him 10-12 games suspension, then they are screwing us, the fans, and the Browns, the organization for exactly what SdBacker80 said. This is Watson's 1st year with the team. He'll be returning to the team and be out of sync for sure. And our record would probably be stacked with too many losses at that point anyway. The league would have made the team waste Watson's first contract year. If they're gonna keep him out 10 games, then just keep him out 17. And give him a hefty fine if that makes ya happy. But don't be thinking us fans will be believing that you're doing us a favor by only suspending him 10-12 games.
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Massive Loss for the Browns and it’s Fans- Season is essentially lost. Watson goes to Year 2 of his contract
^ This.
If they give him 10-12 games suspension, then they are screwing us, the fans, and the Browns, the organization for exactly what SdBacker80 said. This is Watson's 1st year with the team. He'll be returning to the team and be out of sync for sure. And our record would probably be stacked with too many losses at that point anyway. The league would have made the team waste Watson's first contract year. If they're gonna keep him out 10 games, then just keep him out 17. And give him a hefty fine if that makes ya happy. But don't be thinking us fans will be believing that you're doing us a favor by only suspending him 10-12 games.
^ This.
If they give him 10-12 games suspension, then they are screwing us, the fans, and the Browns, the organization for exactly what SdBacker80 said. This is Watson's 1st year with the team. He'll be returning to the team and be out of sync for sure. And our record would probably be stacked with too many losses at that point anyway. The league would have made the team waste Watson's first contract year. If they're gonna keep him out 10 games, then just keep him out 17. And give him a hefty fine if that makes ya happy. But don't be thinking us fans will be believing that you're doing us a favor by only suspending him 10-12 games.
The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
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^ This.
If they give him 10-12 games suspension, then they are screwing us, the fans, and the Browns, the organization for exactly what SdBacker80 said. This is Watson's 1st year with the team. He'll be returning to the team and be out of sync for sure. And our record would probably be stacked with too many losses at that point anyway. The league would have made the team waste Watson's first contract year. If they're gonna keep him out 10 games, then just keep him out 17. And give him a hefty fine if that makes ya happy. But don't be thinking us fans will be believing that you're doing us a favor by only suspending him 10-12 games.
The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
I would honestly say half by now maybe more. Even our Zombo is there. We'll have to see how this all shakes out.....in W-L first.
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The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
I would honestly say half by now maybe more. Even our Zombo is there. We'll have to see how this all shakes out.....in W-L first.
I would honestly say half by now maybe more. Even our Zombo is there. We'll have to see how this all shakes out.....in W-L first.
Watson is a definite upgrade as QB over Baker, but as I said before, that's no guarantee of a Super Bowl title, of course.
But getting a chance at a Lombardi Trophy with Watson isn't starting until 2023. The Browns 2022 season will be torpedoed the second Goodell lays the smack down.
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^ This.
If they give him 10-12 games suspension, then they are screwing us, the fans, and the Browns, the organization for exactly what SdBacker80 said. This is Watson's 1st year with the team. He'll be returning to the team and be out of sync for sure. And our record would probably be stacked with too many losses at that point anyway. The league would have made the team waste Watson's first contract year. If they're gonna keep him out 10 games, then just keep him out 17. And give him a hefty fine if that makes ya happy. But don't be thinking us fans will be believing that you're doing us a favor by only suspending him 10-12 games.
The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
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The Browns are not victims in this. They signed on for this trainwreck.
A good portion of the Browns fanbase has always known this.
Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
But it isn't the NFL who is screwing the Browns fans.
Deshaun Watson caused this. The Browns, by trading for him, caused this.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
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Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
But it isn't the NFL who is screwing the Browns fans.
Deshaun Watson caused this. The Browns, by trading for him, caused this.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
But
I still say, if it costs the team 1 contract year of virtually no production of any value out of that contract year, then you're screwing the team AND at the same time bringing the higher paid salary years right up to the player's doorstep.
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can kraft now be stricken of
As a husband and father of two daughters, chalking this whole thing up to the woke mob is insulting. Suggesting that Watson should suffer some sort of consequences befitting his transgressions isn’t a question or test of political beliefs. I don’t doubt some of the women are motivated by money etc. I am convinced not all of them were/are. Regardless, I’d hope if you were ever in a position to deal out discipline to someone who had acted as Watson di toward my wife or daughters, that you’d bring the hammer down and not simply play his behavior off as the cancel culturists out for a witch hunt.
Consider this home,
I walked into a massage parlor.
They asked for 60 dollars for an hour massage.
I laid face down and received a good back rub.
The misuse then handed a pillow and motion to turn over.
Midway through the front side she began working my junk
Me being a young guy with stamina i squirted my load right in her face.
She was a bit surprised it squirted that far but heyyy
Who had their face in THE LINE OF FIRE?
Please define where sexual assault was within the hypothetical case i just wrote?
What if she pointed it towards my face and I painted my face because of her aim?
Can I then bring a suit against her for sexual misconduct????
can kraft now be stricken of
Consider this home,
I walked into a massage parlor.
They asked for 60 dollars for an hour massage.
I laid face down and received a good back rub.
The misuse then handed a pillow and motion to turn over.
Midway through the front side she began working my junk
Me being a young guy with stamina i squirted my load right in her face.
She was a bit surprised it squirted that far but heyyy
Who had their face in THE LINE OF FIRE?
Please define where sexual assault was within the hypothetical case i just wrote?
What if she pointed it towards my face and I painted my face because of her aim?
Can I then bring a suit against her for sexual misconduct????
It doesn't exist in the case you wrote. That case you wrote also doesn't apply to this.
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If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men
2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y
If Roger treats Watson anything differently than Robert kraft than Roger Goodell is absolutely predict against black men
2 faced white dude can't do shit squat against another white man but ohhhhhhhh boy will he fuck a black man every day that ends in y
I've explained this elsewhere here. Kraft ...if what the allegations were are true (I think so) ...was not doing what Watson was doing. Kraft was entering into ILEGAL sure...but enterting into a trade of money for a rub and tug....between 2 consenting adults as far as Kraft knew. He wasn't paying for a massage and then rubbing his junk on the massuese, who wasn't being paid to handle his junk.
If you want to point out the hypocracy of no punishment for Kraft, or other owners for other issues...I'm all ears becasue I'd agree.....and I'd also then point to:
my next point...wich I made earlier....
Goodell doesn't have to be doing any of this. He....PER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THE NFLPA AGREED TO AND VOTED FOR AND SIGNED OFF ON....Goodell can issue ANY punishment he wants at his discretion. And that was further entrenched with the deflategate case becasue ultimately, that's what the ruling was about....literally the judge said...yep, you all signed off on this, Mr. Goodell can issue discipline in any manner he sees fit.
There is no case the NFLPA could make that would ever stand up in any court. Goodell can do what he wants...legally. He's trying to go through this stupid arbitration and appeal process to take the burden of the decision off him alone and spread that out to other credible parties....but whenever he decides to end the show trial..he can and will.
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Both points are true. But it doesn't change the fact that team that acquired him, and their fans get screwed (Falcons, Saints or Browns) out of the first contract year. And they'll screw us because the organization wrote the contract to protect the player's wages (very cheap year one). - If they push it out a year then it's an extra year Watson has to go with minimal monies coming in.
But it isn't the NFL who is screwing the Browns fans.
Deshaun Watson caused this. The Browns, by trading for him, caused this.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Browns will have a very good QB for a good chunk of years starting in 2023, IF HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE STUPID. But this season most likely is FUBAR'd.
I'm not even counting on Watson playing in all* of 2023
.. I'm sorry, but he/they can't continue to let his defense team, defend he/him as Watson has done nothing wrong..
Dump Hardin/ admit some ? might have gone to far/ get help for his addiction/obsession... than hope he does nothing else stupid... because he will certainly have more target chasers in his future.
It's time he starts appealing to help himself see football games & a whole lot of loot to do so..
I'm not so Happy this Friday ! ?.... (but it's Gameday !)
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It is important to let this play out.
Things to note:
The owners are not subject to the CBA which this falls under.
The gambler is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.
The PED user is not subject to the Personal Conduct Policy which this falls under.
The ball deflator is not subject to the Person Conduct Policy which this falls under.
All those comparisons are not applicable in this instance.
However, all of those comparisons are applicable in the court of public opinion.
The MOST notable legitimate comparisons are Big Ben (1 accusation - 6 games) and Zeke Elliot (1 accusation - 6 games)
Sue Robinson's quote "Egregious misconduct"
I think this will be upped by 2-6 games and he will be fined and he will be required to attend counseling (which he should do regardless).
The NFL won't want to look weak, but will not want this drawn out all season again. So they won't go for the full season, but they will increase it. But not by so much as to draw appeals from the NFLPA.
8-12 games.
IMHO
No fkg way.
No fkg way.
Looks like you are right, probably going to do the whole season at this point.
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I think many people are missing that this is all Watson's fault, not the NFL's.
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