Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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I think they are trying to figure out some way to weasel out of giving him a full year, no idea why I'm getting that vibe but part of it is the fake apology. Did anybody buy that? Again 8 or 12 games is actually worse for the Cleveland browns. With a full season they will have to look for a starting quality quarterback whether that's Jimmy Garoppolo or somebody else. Go piecemeal Miss the playoffs then the wheels start coming off.
Even if they stayed at 6:00 it won't be long before people forget about it.
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Yeah, that fake apology didn’t pass the smell test.
Something is brewing.
Yeah, that fake apology didn’t pass the smell test.
Something is brewing.
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
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Yeah, that fake apology didn’t pass the smell test.
Something is brewing.
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
The basic end result Lar... Follow the damn money!!.. It's basically what it will all boil down to.... They didn't push that scandi knife quite deep enough yet...
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Yeah, that fake apology didn’t pass the smell test.
Something is brewing.
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
Not that obvious to me. I still think a 1 year plus hefty fine is coming. I'm going from past commish behavior here.?
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Yeah, that fake apology didn’t pass the smell test.
Something is brewing.
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but care to bet that fake apology was probably part of the deal for Watson not getting the entire year...
I’m thinking 8-12 games, and not a full season because of the aforementioned half assed apology.
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Wow didn't take long for this thread to turn into guitars and whatever.
But then again any thread with Watson + anything is doomed to be another Watson-o-matic bunch of rehashed stuff.
Can't wait until next week real football with someone under center. Oh yeah are you ready....oh nevermind.
GO BROWNS.....baby.
Wow didn't take long for this thread to turn into guitars and whatever.
But then again any thread with Watson + anything is doomed to be another Watson-o-matic bunch of rehashed stuff.
Can't wait until next week real football with someone under center. Oh yeah are you ready....oh nevermind.
GO BROWNS.....baby.
Yes now with preseason game #1 in the books we will have a better idea where the DW legal, NFL and Cleveland BROWNS plans go.
Who are the real #2, 3 maybe taxi squad (if any) quarterbacks are......and when DW will be a permanent part of the Cleveland BROWNS legacy goes. After all he's already bought and paid for.
Like it or not he's our future #1 QB.
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I’m thinking 8-12 games, and not a full season because of the aforementioned half assed apology.
I don't care what it is... make a decision and move on... No one looks good in this from any angle you choose...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I’m thinking 8-12 games, and not a full season because of the aforementioned half assed apology.
I don't care what it is... make a decision and move on... No one looks good in this from any angle you choose...
I don't care what it is... make a decision and move on... No one looks good in this from any angle you choose...
And if the commish waits until after the last dress rehearsal pre-season game, then he is just being petty with the Browns for playing Watson at all.
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Not that obvious to me. I still think a 1 year plus hefty fine is coming. I'm going from past commish behavior here.?
BUT- Goodell can recommend a year + a big fine. This time around he's not making the final call on what's going to happen... His designated hatchet man will though.
From the length of time this is taking I'm not the only one suspecting there's a ton of behind the scenes negotiating going on. (that was allowed for in the CBA) Harvey was only supposed to go through evidence that had already been submitted, not look at anything new. It's been almost two weeks...
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I think they are trying to figure out some way to weasel out of giving him a full year, no idea why I'm getting that vibe but part of it is the fake apology. Did anybody buy that? Again 8 or 12 games is actually worse for the Cleveland browns. With a full season they will have to look for a starting quality quarterback whether that's Jimmy Garoppolo or somebody else. Go piecemeal Miss the playoffs then the wheels start coming off.
Even if they stayed at 6:00 it won't be long before people forget about it.
WSS
Again 8 or 12 games is actually worse for the Cleveland browns.
Thank you! I've been saying this right along. Our season will be $#!+ AND we'll lose one year of his contract. And, now the bigger paydays for him come right to his doorstep. If they suspend him all year then his contract is pushed off a year and his low pay 1 mil salary is what will be at his doorstep. But I'm pretty confident that Roger GoToHell will be looking to screw us as much as he possibly can.
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I’m thinking 8-12 games, and not a full season because of the aforementioned half assed apology.
I don't care what it is... make a decision and move on... No one looks good in this from any angle you choose...
I don't care what it is... make a decision and move on... No one looks good in this from any angle you choose...
Word! ^^
I'm really tired of fans & media now grabbing the low hanging fruit, that was not so clear when several teams were in the mix when trading for Watson.. how soon they forget what was not known at his trade date..
What the NFL don't want to do? is suspend him a year.. Toll his contract of a million into 2023... When he still has a holdout case (or more Buzbee?) that could be suspend-able into the 2023 season.. including.. if he can stay clean?
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Again 8 or 12 games is actually worse for the Cleveland browns.
Thank you! I've been saying this right along. Our season will be $#!+ AND we'll lose one year of his contract. And, now the bigger paydays for him come right to his doorstep. If they suspend him all year then his contract is pushed off a year and his low pay 1 mil salary is what will be at his doorstep. But I'm pretty confident that Roger GoToHell will be looking to screw us as much as he possibly can.
Thank you! I've been saying this right along. Our season will be $#!+ AND we'll lose one year of his contract. And, now the bigger paydays for him come right to his doorstep. If they suspend him all year then his contract is pushed off a year and his low pay 1 mil salary is what will be at his doorstep. But I'm pretty confident that Roger GoToHell will be looking to screw us as much as he possibly can.
I'm just stating what I think would probably be better for the team I couldn't give less of a damn what's better for Watson. Screw Jimmy Haslam and screw the bogus pay chain they put together.
And if anybody has screwed the Browns it's Jimmy and Watson and the Houston Texans. Sure Rodger Goodell is an incompetent putz but this dunk tank over a cesspool isn't his fault.
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But they wouldn't have done that because he wasn't that much of an upgrade over Baker. But he probably IS an upgrade over Brissette.
Good point Orion! I think another big part of this is the question of when he'll be ready to play for a new team, new offense and players he has no familiarity with whatsoever.
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The apology:
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Thank you! I've been saying this right along. Our season will be $#!+ AND we'll lose one year of his contract. And, now the bigger paydays for him come right to his doorstep. If they suspend him all year then his contract is pushed off a year and his low pay 1 mil salary is what will be at his doorstep. But I'm pretty confident that Roger GoToHell will be looking to screw us as much as he possibly can.
I'm just stating what I think would probably be better for the team I couldn't give less of a damn what's better for Watson. Screw Jimmy Haslam and screw the bogus pay chain they put together.
And if anybody has screwed the Browns it's Jimmy and Watson and the Houston Texans. Sure Rodger Goodell is an incompetent putz but this dunk tank over a cesspool isn't his fault.
WSS
I couldn't give less of a damn what's better for Watson.
...but that's YOU. The women fans is what the NFL is trying to appease here. And the media...who's feeding their frenzy. They give a damn...and they want what's worse for him. So if you're gonna totally screw the team by keeping the QB out for 10-12 games AND losing a contract year, then DON'T DO THAT. Keep him out ALL year. No pay at all. And only 1 mil next year. That way the team isn't getting a double screwing by losing a contract year.
That's all I'm saying. Don't screw the team so heavily. But I really feel that the owners want Haslam screwed because of that very contract that I'm advocating for. The infamous Guaranteed Money. And the only reason I'm fighting for the years of the contract is because, hey, we're in this whether we like it or we don't. We're not able to spin the arrow of time so we can go back and undo this. I want the best possible outcome for the team, because if the team gets screwed then we, the passionate fans, you know, like the ones that post on the team message board(s), get screwed. Not the official league of women librarians. Us.
I think over the years I've called Haslam every name in the book. Trigger finger, crook, sleazy, liar.....I referred to them as Pilot J's Flying Circus on the original team message board, which closed up like, the next day. I'm still pissed at him for what he did to our uniform...I mean, he had to fuck everything up including the uniforms.....everything had to be Pilot J New & Improved. BUT....ironically, I'm not chastising him for this move...because I actually believe that it should be better for the team if we can have Watson at QB instead of Baker. But I certainly understand the sentiment that it's right up sleazy Jimmuh's alley.
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Ya know... I get this ugly feeling Watson is gonna end up like OBJ here and simply "not fit". He looked totally uncomfortable and out of place in his appearance the other night... He even looked disinterested in what was going on... I think his mind is every place else but on Football right now.. This is gonna end ugly... I'm just feeling it.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Ya know... I get this ugly feeling Watson is gonna end up like OBJ here and simply "not fit". He looked totally uncomfortable and out of place in his appearance the other night... He even looked disinterested in what was going on... I think his mind is every place else but on Football right now.. This is gonna end ugly... I'm just feeling it.
Ya know... I get this ugly feeling Watson is gonna end up like OBJ here and simply "not fit". He looked totally uncomfortable and out of place in his appearance the other night... He even looked disinterested in what was going on... I think his mind is every place else but on Football right now.. This is gonna end ugly... I'm just feeling it.
It's Browns history tipping the scales I tell ya. Win the Superbowl every August and struggle to make it a winning season by December.
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I couldn't give less of a damn what's better for Watson.
...but that's YOU. The women fans is what the NFL is trying to appease here. And the media...who's feeding their frenzy. They give a damn...and they want what's worse for him. So if you're gonna totally screw the team by keeping the QB out for 10-12 games AND losing a contract year, then DON'T DO THAT. Keep him out ALL year. No pay at all. And only 1 mil next year. That way the team isn't getting a double screwing by losing a contract year.
That's all I'm saying. Don't screw the team so heavily. But I really feel that the owners want Haslam screwed because of that very contract that I'm advocating for. The infamous Guaranteed Money. And the only reason I'm fighting for the years of the contract is because, hey, we're in this whether we like it or we don't. We're not able to spin the arrow of time so we can go back and undo this. I want the best possible outcome for the team, because if the team gets screwed then we, the passionate fans, you know, like the ones that post on the team message board(s), get screwed. Not the official league of women librarians. Us.
I think over the years I've called Haslam every name in the book. Trigger finger, crook, sleazy, liar.....I referred to them as Pilot J's Flying Circus on the original team message board, which closed up like, the next day. I'm still pissed at him for what he did to our uniform...I mean, he had to fuck everything up including the uniforms.....everything had to be Pilot J New & Improved. BUT....ironically, I'm not chastising him for this move...because I actually believe that it should be better for the team if we can have Watson at QB instead of Baker. But I certainly understand the sentiment that it's right up sleazy Jimmuh's alley.
...but that's YOU. The women fans is what the NFL is trying to appease here. And the media...who's feeding their frenzy. They give a damn...and they want what's worse for him. So if you're gonna totally screw the team by keeping the QB out for 10-12 games AND losing a contract year, then DON'T DO THAT. Keep him out ALL year. No pay at all. And only 1 mil next year. That way the team isn't getting a double screwing by losing a contract year.
That's all I'm saying. Don't screw the team so heavily. But I really feel that the owners want Haslam screwed because of that very contract that I'm advocating for. The infamous Guaranteed Money. And the only reason I'm fighting for the years of the contract is because, hey, we're in this whether we like it or we don't. We're not able to spin the arrow of time so we can go back and undo this. I want the best possible outcome for the team, because if the team gets screwed then we, the passionate fans, you know, like the ones that post on the team message board(s), get screwed. Not the official league of women librarians. Us.
I think over the years I've called Haslam every name in the book. Trigger finger, crook, sleazy, liar.....I referred to them as Pilot J's Flying Circus on the original team message board, which closed up like, the next day. I'm still pissed at him for what he did to our uniform...I mean, he had to fuck everything up including the uniforms.....everything had to be Pilot J New & Improved. BUT....ironically, I'm not chastising him for this move...because I actually believe that it should be better for the team if we can have Watson at QB instead of Baker. But I certainly understand the sentiment that it's right up sleazy Jimmuh's alley.
You might have missed my point in the very first line of your response. I realize exactly why the NFL is playing Hardball with watson. Not only women but some guys who are a little bit patriarchal about women. As I've said before I don't think his behavior should necessarily be felonious but it really is creepy and he really is a liar and Haslem and the Texans really are Crooks. Beyond that positioning the suspension so that we get an extra year of Watson who cares? If the Browns are playing at a Super Bowl level for the next four years with him I would assume he'd want to stay and they would pay him to stay. If on the other hand the team underperforms because of the lack of draft picks attrition Etc then who wants to be on the hook for another year?
WSS
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...but that's YOU. The women fans is what the NFL is trying to appease here. And the media...who's feeding their frenzy. They give a damn...and they want what's worse for him. So if you're gonna totally screw the team by keeping the QB out for 10-12 games AND losing a contract year, then DON'T DO THAT. Keep him out ALL year. No pay at all. And only 1 mil next year. That way the team isn't getting a double screwing by losing a contract year.
That's all I'm saying. Don't screw the team so heavily. But I really feel that the owners want Haslam screwed because of that very contract that I'm advocating for. The infamous Guaranteed Money. And the only reason I'm fighting for the years of the contract is because, hey, we're in this whether we like it or we don't. We're not able to spin the arrow of time so we can go back and undo this. I want the best possible outcome for the team, because if the team gets screwed then we, the passionate fans, you know, like the ones that post on the team message board(s), get screwed. Not the official league of women librarians. Us.
I think over the years I've called Haslam every name in the book. Trigger finger, crook, sleazy, liar.....I referred to them as Pilot J's Flying Circus on the original team message board, which closed up like, the next day. I'm still pissed at him for what he did to our uniform...I mean, he had to fuck everything up including the uniforms.....everything had to be Pilot J New & Improved. BUT....ironically, I'm not chastising him for this move...because I actually believe that it should be better for the team if we can have Watson at QB instead of Baker. But I certainly understand the sentiment that it's right up sleazy Jimmuh's alley.
You might have missed my point in the very first line of your response. I realize exactly why the NFL is playing Hardball with watson. Not only women but some guys who are a little bit patriarchal about women. As I've said before I don't think his behavior should necessarily be felonious but it really is creepy and he really is a liar and Haslem and the Texans really are Crooks. Beyond that positioning the suspension so that we get an extra year of Watson who cares? If the Browns are playing at a Super Bowl level for the next four years with him I would assume he'd want to stay and they would pay him to stay. If on the other hand the team underperforms because of the lack of draft picks attrition Etc then who wants to be on the hook for another year?
WSS
Not only women but some guys who are a little bit patriarchal about women.
Hopefully that's all of us.
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Ya know... I get this ugly feeling Watson is gonna end up like OBJ here and simply "not fit". He looked totally uncomfortable and out of place in his appearance the other night... He even looked disinterested in what was going on... I think his mind is every place else but on Football right now.. This is gonna end ugly... I'm just feeling it.
Ya know... I get this ugly feeling Watson is gonna end up like OBJ here and simply "not fit". He looked totally uncomfortable and out of place in his appearance the other night... He even looked disinterested in what was going on... I think his mind is every place else but on Football right now.. This is gonna end ugly... I'm just feeling it.
So I finally watched the game tonight and I couldn't agree more. Watson looked like he wanted to be anywhere else in the universe but that field. His eyes looked glazed and he was emotional less.
Now, I'll be the first to admit that I have not paid much attention to Watson and the only games I've watched him in were against the Browns, with maybe 2 or 3 others that I watched as a casual fan and maybe that's his normal look, but man, dude looked fireless.
....... are you ready for some football?
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Not only women but some guys who are a little bit patriarchal about women.
Hopefully that's all of us.
Hopefully that's all of us.
Well of course. On the other hand I suspect that at least some possibly even most of these accusers are at the very least embellishing the story in order to get a cash payout. In the big picture false accusations are at least as egregious as anything Watson was accused of. And a disservice to the ones whose accusations were valid.
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