Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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Well on the plus side, let's see how Dobbs continues in the pre-season as a backup. He was impressive against the Jags.
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JG is a decent game manager who can keep errors down when facing teams he's supposed to beat. Anything need-to-win and he shows why his contract is pretty wildly overvalued. I would really only trade for him if 49ers are paying some chunk of the contract --- we can go 6-5 with Brissett just as easily as with JG and have money left over to get a C or another WR/DT/etc.
JG is a decent game manager who can keep errors down when facing teams he's supposed to beat. Anything need-to-win and he shows why his contract is pretty wildly overvalued. I would really only trade for him if 49ers are paying some chunk of the contract --- we can go 6-5 with Brissett just as easily as with JG and have money left over to get a C or another WR/DT/etc.
Jimmy only made sense for a multitude of reasons if Watson was gone the whole year. If he (likely) gets cut? It's an interesting thought experiment, but no reason to give any assets at this point.
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Game 12 @ Houston.
I thought the NFL wanted to avoid that scenario.
Still waiting for the Texans to be stripped of those 3 #1s.
Good Luck with that…although the outrage is centered at Watson. Meanwhile our organization probably pays the worst price in all of this and Texans were said to be culpable in all this too.
Texans get Brissett led Browns most of the year 1st round draft pick. Low-mid teens is my prediction.We’d be better off with one year and contract doesn’t start until the following year.
Good Luck with that…although the outrage is centered at Watson. Meanwhile our organization probably pays the worst price in all of this and Texans were said to be culpable in all this too.
Texans get Brissett led Browns most of the year 1st round draft pick. Low-mid teens is my prediction.We’d be better off with one year and contract doesn’t start until the following year.
I'm not a Brissett fan but I do think the Browns are improved. Don't do stupid stuff, they could win 10 games.
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JG is a decent game manager who can keep errors down when facing teams he's supposed to beat. Anything need-to-win and he shows why his contract is pretty wildly overvalued. I would really only trade for him if 49ers are paying some chunk of the contract --- we can go 6-5 with Brissett just as easily as with JG and have money left over to get a C or another WR/DT/etc.
JG is a decent game manager who can keep errors down when facing teams he's supposed to beat. Anything need-to-win and he shows why his contract is pretty wildly overvalued. I would really only trade for him if 49ers are paying some chunk of the contract --- we can go 6-5 with Brissett just as easily as with JG and have money left over to get a C or another WR/DT/etc.
The Browns lost negotiation leverage with this verdict, but the 9ers are likely still keen to shed at least part of his salary. I'll gladly defer to @tiamat63 assessment of the value, or lack thereof. If there is a good chance Jimmy gets cut, waiting for that is the smarter move anyway I suppose.
My proposed 3 RB formation it is then!
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I have two questions
Why do the Texans walk away from this unscathed?
Where does Mike Florio’s career go from here?
I have two questions
Why do the Texans walk away from this unscathed?
Where does Mike Florio’s career go from here?
1. They get pushed around this year and the following and hopefully the next after that. Mystery to me… where are the social justice folks when you need them. Can Browns fans protest for action…how does it work?
2. He’s back to breaking premature stories and practicing in the art of thinking he knows legal stuff. Whatever he wants I guess
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Must admit I am surprised that DW and his team were willing to settle for this.
Now I suppose we trade for Jimmy G. Can't imagine we're sticking with Brissett for 11 games. Or we just field one of our RBs as a QB, and they just hand the ball off to each other every down.
I really can't endorse that myself, for a few reasons.
- Cost. JG's contract is a burden given his value.
- He isn't so head and shoulders above Jacoby that gives him what I just mentioned... value
- He had less reps in camp with this team than Jacoby, so now he comes in and probably doesn't fare much better the first 6 games, at bare minimum. So that burden of cost instead comes back around.
Jimmy G is ok, but he has been blessed with a quality Oline, a great pass rush, the best running game and one of the more inventive head coaches in the NFL, and finally Deebo Samuel.
For all I mention of Baker being elevated by talent around him, the, Jimmy G ain't far off.
Edit: Symp already beat me to it. Nicely done.
I really can't endorse that myself, for a few reasons.
- Cost. JG's contract is a burden given his value.
- He isn't so head and shoulders above Jacoby that gives him what I just mentioned... value
- He had less reps in camp with this team than Jacoby, so now he comes in and probably doesn't fare much better the first 6 games, at bare minimum. So that burden of cost instead comes back around.
Jimmy G is ok, but he has been blessed with a quality Oline, a great pass rush, the best running game and one of the more inventive head coaches in the NFL, and finally Deebo Samuel.
For all I mention of Baker being elevated by talent around him, the, Jimmy G ain't far off.
Edit: Symp already beat me to it. Nicely done.
Hmm…I’m reading your part of the Jimmy G 49er support.
quality Oline. Okay we are down a center now but we have magician for a coach.
Great pass rush…you are more positive than most regarding our defense and I think we are great here (have the potential at least)
Best running game….yes. One of at the very least.HC… l like shanny. Stefanski could do no wrong in 2020-2021.
Deebo…run/catch threat. We have a few but not a perfect match here…but the weapons exist here.
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11 games to many.
11 games to many.
It's all kind of crazy, -0- games ? 5 games ? 11 ? 17 ? More ?
And stop and think what individual that you know of has been fined $5,000,000 and can pay it like you'd pay a speeding ticket.....courtesy of our Cleveland BROWNS thank you.
And he will be forever branded a freak-o person wearing a Cleveland BROWNS starting quarterback uniform on every snap -or- just ev everyday all 365.
Makes me sick about the whole sordid story.
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I hope Jacoby makes it impossible for Stef to take him out week 12.
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11 games to many.
It's all kind of crazy, -0- games ? 5 games ? 11 ? 17 ? More ?
And stop and think what individual that you know of has been fined $5,000,000 and can pay it like you'd pay a speeding ticket.....courtesy of our Cleveland BROWNS thank you.
And he will be forever branded a freak-o person wearing a Cleveland BROWNS starting quarterback uniform on every snap -or- just ev everyday all 365.
Makes me sick about the whole sordid story.
It's all kind of crazy, -0- games ? 5 games ? 11 ? 17 ? More ?
And stop and think what individual that you know of has been fined $5,000,000 and can pay it like you'd pay a speeding ticket.....courtesy of our Cleveland BROWNS thank you.
And he will be forever branded a freak-o person wearing a Cleveland BROWNS starting quarterback uniform on every snap -or- just ev everyday all 365.
Makes me sick about the whole sordid story.
And so will the fan wearing a Watson jersey, especially outside of Cleveland.
How many of you got your Watson jerseys?
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On the plus side he does not count on the 53 man roster. So do we keep both Dobbs and Rosen as backups?
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I really can't endorse that myself, for a few reasons.
- Cost. JG's contract is a burden given his value.
- He isn't so head and shoulders above Jacoby that gives him what I just mentioned... value
- He had less reps in camp with this team than Jacoby, so now he comes in and probably doesn't fare much better the first 6 games, at bare minimum. So that burden of cost instead comes back around.
Jimmy G is ok, but he has been blessed with a quality Oline, a great pass rush, the best running game and one of the more inventive head coaches in the NFL, and finally Deebo Samuel.
For all I mention of Baker being elevated by talent around him, the, Jimmy G ain't far off.
Edit: Symp already beat me to it. Nicely done.
Hmm…I’m reading your part of the Jimmy G 49er support.
quality Oline. Okay we are down a center now but we have magician for a coach.
Great pass rush…you are more positive than most regarding our defense and I think we are great here (have the potential at least)
Best running game….yes. One of at the very least.HC… l like shanny. Stefanski could do no wrong in 2020-2021.
Deebo…run/catch threat. We have a few but not a perfect match here…but the weapons exist here.
quality Oline. Okay we are down a center now but we have magician for a coach.
Great pass rush…you are more positive than most regarding our defense and I think we are great here (have the potential at least)
Best running game….yes. One of at the very least.HC… l like shanny. Stefanski could do no wrong in 2020-2021.
Deebo…run/catch threat. We have a few but not a perfect match here…but the weapons exist here.
- I wouldn't say "magician" Young Shanny couldn't make our 3rd string C work in 2014. That is, by no coincidence, when Hoyer started to fall apart as well.
- Yes, we have a top 5 running game.
- Stef has less time as a HC than Shanny, so I expect those same growing pains. Still, no head coach is above mistakes. Not in year 1, not in year 30. The point being to keep refining and possibly innovating after losses and during the off-season. We're all students of the game, even the professionals.
- While we don't have a top 10 WR or TE like San Fran, the Browns collective talent could be every bit as good. So yes, the weapons do exist here.
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Watson is such a dirt bag. Yes I know I'm a steeler fan as the majority of the board already knows. The Browns should just never let the guy open his damn mouth. He just digs the hole deeper. Everytime he talks he shows no remorse, admits to zero wrong doing. It's sociopathic. Before anyone says anything about Ben the only reason I could stomach the guy is because he was a stallion under center. He annoys the fuck out of me most of the time despite my defense of him here for years on years. He also didn't have 66 therapists and 20 plus accusers. The Browns need to gag order Watson. Dude is a POS.
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It's finally over. By the first week of December, when Watson comes back, I predict this will all be forgotten because by then they'll be another NFL fiasco to be talked about.
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It's finally over. By the first week of December, when Watson comes back, I predict this will all be forgotten because by then they'll be another NFL fiasco to be talked about.
It's finally over. By the first week of December, when Watson comes back, I predict this will all be forgotten because by then they'll be another NFL fiasco to be talked about.
it won't be forgotten by a lot of folks who are disgusted with all this.
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Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.
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I hope Jacoby makes it impossible for Stef to take him out week 12.
I foresee unremarkable play. I hope I’m wrong. I think we could overcome 6 games. This is a kick in the balls.
if he limits the mistakes, we run well, play defense (from the start), limit the stupidity that plagued us in 2021. I think 6 wins is possible and then you enter a rusty QB.
Go Buckeyes.
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The Browns traded for Watson five months ago today.
It's been a smooth ride, hasn't it?
I wonder if Jimmah is having buyer’s remorse?
I wonder if Jimmah is having buyer’s remorse?
At 230M fully guaranteed with all that draft capital he most definitely should be. Especially when you consider how much football he will have missed by the time he actually sees the field. The contract will never not be moronic and Haslam has his pants down around his ankles with the million in year one so Watson didn't lose a bunch of money. The 5 million dollar fine ain't shit to him either.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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