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  • https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/browns-face-more-uncertainty-after-nfl-appeals-deshaun-watsons-suspension-but-this-is-uncertainty-they-brought-on-themselves.html

    As to one of the issues the idea that he'll be expected to undergo treatment.. my faith in that kind of thing is almost nil. While I'm willing to admit that a certain range of sexual predator is probably present in some form in every male mammal I can't imagine him being able to turn off the switch or eliminate the desire through sitting around and talking to somebody about it. Think about it it's kind of like therapy to make someone stop being gay. The leopard probably isn't changing his spots. Still, even though I'm sure it's been tried but the ludovico technique from A Clockwork Orange probably isn't a real Medical Practice.

    Which means unless everybody is willing to wink and Nod and pretend he's been cured or if the bronze do a better job of concealing and off-site Recreation room for the guy than the Texans did....

    It almost makes you feel sorry for the guy being stuck in a no-win position.

    WSS

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/browns-face-more-uncertainty-after-nfl-appeals-deshaun-watsons-suspension-but-this-is-uncertainty-they-brought-on-themselves.html

    As to one of the issues the idea that he'll be expected to undergo treatment.. my faith in that kind of thing is almost nil. While I'm willing to admit that a certain range of sexual predator is probably present in some form in every male mammal I can't imagine him being able to turn off the switch or eliminate the desire through sitting around and talking to somebody about it. Think about it it's kind of like therapy to make someone stop being gay. The leopard probably isn't changing his spots. Still, even though I'm sure it's been tried but the ludovico technique from A Clockwork Orange probably isn't a real Medical Practice.

    Which means unless everybody is willing to wink and Nod and pretend he's been cured or if the bronze do a better job of concealing and off-site Recreation room for the guy than the Texans did....

    It almost makes you feel sorry for the guy being stuck in a no-win position.

    WSS

    WSS

    A good group with an excellent sponsor like in AA/NA might work.? ?

  • @hoorta said:

    Out of curiosity, I did check and there are Watson jerseys for sale at the NFL Shop.  I suspect they're not a big seller. You can get Mayfield jerseys 1\2 off though.  🙂  That's why I quit buying jerseys with a player's name on it, I have a Tim Couch jersey gathering dust in the basement.  

    I finally broke down and bought a new Browns jersey.  I chucked my Courtney Brown jersey maybe 10 years ago after not wearing it for almost as many years.  I bought a Jim Brown jersey.  I figured I can't go wrong with that being he is a retired legend and on the right side of the cancel culture, woke crowd.

    @ballpeen said:

    I finally broke down and bought a new Browns jersey.  I chucked my Courtney Brown jersey maybe 10 years ago after not wearing it for almost as many years.  I bought a Jim Brown jersey.  I figured I can't go wrong with that being he is a retired legend and on the right side of the cancel culture, woke crowd.

    I think I still have two Tim Couch jerseys somewhere. They should be valuable as antiques one of these years.

    Best bet - Joe Thomas jersey, if I were to buy one.

  • @ballpeen said:

    I finally broke down and bought a new Browns jersey.  I chucked my Courtney Brown jersey maybe 10 years ago after not wearing it for almost as many years.  I bought a Jim Brown jersey.  I figured I can't go wrong with that being he is a retired legend and on the right side of the cancel culture, woke crowd.

    I think I still have two Tim Couch jerseys somewhere. They should be valuable as antiques one of these years.

    Best bet - Joe Thomas jersey, if I were to buy one.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I think I still have two Tim Couch jerseys somewhere. They should be valuable as antiques one of these years.

    Best bet - Joe Thomas jersey, if I were to buy one.

    I have a JT jersey... Might wear it at the home opener...

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/browns-face-more-uncertainty-after-nfl-appeals-deshaun-watsons-suspension-but-this-is-uncertainty-they-brought-on-themselves.html

    As to one of the issues the idea that he'll be expected to undergo treatment.. my faith in that kind of thing is almost nil. While I'm willing to admit that a certain range of sexual predator is probably present in some form in every male mammal I can't imagine him being able to turn off the switch or eliminate the desire through sitting around and talking to somebody about it. Think about it it's kind of like therapy to make someone stop being gay. The leopard probably isn't changing his spots. Still, even though I'm sure it's been tried but the ludovico technique from A Clockwork Orange probably isn't a real Medical Practice.

    Which means unless everybody is willing to wink and Nod and pretend he's been cured or if the bronze do a better job of concealing and off-site Recreation room for the guy than the Texans did....

    It almost makes you feel sorry for the guy being stuck in a no-win position.

    WSS

    WSS

    A good group with an excellent sponsor like in AA/NA might work.? ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    A good group with an excellent sponsor like in AA/NA might work.? ?

    Oh I do understand people have success with AA. I wouldn't imagine that members of that group would be alpha males, maybe I'm wrong. And with alcoholism I think the people that finally give themselves over to AA have realized that they are powerless to fight this urge and they realize it's detrimental to their lives. As much as it's creepy and predatory Etc wanting to f*** every chick you come within 10 ft of seems like a pretty common occurrence among males it's a public relations problem it's an image problem.

    Who knows? Most of us were or at least new guys like that when we're going to school. And that certainly could preclude any of us or them from jobs and which perception was key.

    WSS

  • This is your QB... He's a flat out LIAR!

    @nickers said:

    This is your QB... He's a flat out LIAR!

    What an utterly idiotic line of questioning! 

    "Were you attracted to any of them?" So it's okay to whip your dick out for hot chicks, and not for the fugly ones? Come to think of it, I kind of agree with that premise.

    Explain yourself Deshaun! 

  • so, we went to the Canfield Fair - it is a giant of a fair. 353 acres, hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.

    It takes a good while to ride the tractor-driven wagons all around the fair.

       Great time. Talked with some veterans in a veteran's row several booths.

    Downside - went to a booth for a large lemonade. They were 7$ for a large. It was little ice, seemed like little sugar, and was warm. Iced it and put sugar in it when we got home, it was good.

    I was surprised to talk with a vendor about watson. She sold flags, had flags for every pro team, etc etc. I saw a steeler flag and joked that I was offended, I hated the steelers. She laughed and said she hears that all the time. Said I must be a browns fan- I said "yes, but I'm sick of that trade they did, can't stand it. Now I hate their front office and ownership"....

       She said as a woman, it is sickening, that trade, and said as a former massotherapist when she was in college - she NEVER had anything like that happen. If it had, she would have been angry and really it would have been a bad scene, she would have been telling him off.....or worse.

    She said browns fans deserve so much better than what the browns owners and fo did. Said he should not be allowed to play and have anyone cheering for him, if it ever does happen.

       Didn't expect that - but she was right.

  • Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-must-undergo-treatment-and-have-clinicians-say-hes-on-right-path-for-suspension-to-be-lifted/

  • 10 more to go (in theory).     1-0  so far.

  • Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-must-undergo-treatment-and-have-clinicians-say-hes-on-right-path-for-suspension-to-be-lifted/

    @vambo said:

    Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-must-undergo-treatment-and-have-clinicians-say-hes-on-right-path-for-suspension-to-be-lifted/

    Good for Mr.Peepee!

  • Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-must-undergo-treatment-and-have-clinicians-say-hes-on-right-path-for-suspension-to-be-lifted/

    @vambo said:

    Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson.  Go to meetings and say, Yes sir.  Yes Mam. ?

  • @vambo said:

    Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson.  Go to meetings and say, Yes sir.  Yes Mam. ?

    @orion said:

    I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson.  Go to meetings and say, Yes sir.  Yes Mam. ?

    Probably like going to drug counseling or AA if you get busted for a bag of weed or a DUI.

    He's a distasteful and creepy human being that I do not want has the face of my team but some of this s*** is just ridiculous.

    WSS 

  • @vambo said:

    Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson.  Go to meetings and say, Yes sir.  Yes Mam. ?

    @orion said:

    their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson

    It's circular, like all the best metaphysics.

    You should believe he's earned the right to be respected because he decided he deserves respect!

    Alternatively:

    He's earned the right to his own respect for himself, therefore he's earned the right to be respected by everyone else!

    Respect is simply an act of personal will, right? Right?

  • @vambo said:

    Deshaun Watson must undergo treatment and have clinicians say 'he's on right path' for suspension to be lifted

    I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson.  Go to meetings and say, Yes sir.  Yes Mam. ?

    @orion said:

    I'd be curious to know their definition of, The Right Path...for Watson.  Go to meetings and say, Yes sir.  Yes Mam. ?

    And by lifted we're days from Game 2 so when does this all take place September ?  October ?   And he hasn't played a serious regular season NFL game in how many months ?  This whole thing is so out of control it's ridiculous. 

    Meanwhile the BROWNS have to beat the Jets then Steelers the following Thursday and move on in 2022.

    GO BROWNS just win baby......by any means necessary.     😉

  • Meet with non-football staff?

    Isn’t that what got him in trouble in the first place? ?

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  • Meet with non-football staff?

    Isn’t that what got him in trouble in the first place? ?

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    @canton-dawg said:

    Meet with non-football staff?

    Isn’t that what got him in trouble in the first place? ?

    LOL. I actually think he meets with psychologists to try to fix his sick behavior.

     I would hope, if they could go back in time, the FO would see that they should NEVER have made that sick, stupid-ass trade with the guaranteed money.

    The haslams are so bad, that maybe they have their people negotiating with him to decide guaranteed unlicensed massotherapy they will personally do for him if he could just get their to a superbowl.

    Just freaking blech.

  • Can't practice yet.  I think that people thinking he's going to be the savior of our season will be disappointed.  He's been on the shelf for soooo long.........new team.......his strings are going to be so far out of tune...   

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Meet with non-football staff?

    Isn’t that what got him in trouble in the first place? ?

    LOL. I actually think he meets with psychologists to try to fix his sick behavior.

     I would hope, if they could go back in time, the FO would see that they should NEVER have made that sick, stupid-ass trade with the guaranteed money.

    The haslams are so bad, that maybe they have their people negotiating with him to decide guaranteed unlicensed massotherapy they will personally do for him if he could just get their to a superbowl.

    Just freaking blech.

    @calfoxwc said:

    LOL. I actually think he meets with psychologists to try to fix his sick behavior.

     I would hope, if they could go back in time, the FO would see that they should NEVER have made that sick, stupid-ass trade with the guaranteed money.

    The haslams are so bad, that maybe they have their people negotiating with him to decide guaranteed unlicensed massotherapy they will personally do for him if he could just get their to a superbowl.

    Just freaking blech.

    Better than Mayfield, LMAO.

  • so, we went to the Canfield Fair - it is a giant of a fair. 353 acres, hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.

    It takes a good while to ride the tractor-driven wagons all around the fair.

       Great time. Talked with some veterans in a veteran's row several booths.

    Downside - went to a booth for a large lemonade. They were 7$ for a large. It was little ice, seemed like little sugar, and was warm. Iced it and put sugar in it when we got home, it was good.

    I was surprised to talk with a vendor about watson. She sold flags, had flags for every pro team, etc etc. I saw a steeler flag and joked that I was offended, I hated the steelers. She laughed and said she hears that all the time. Said I must be a browns fan- I said "yes, but I'm sick of that trade they did, can't stand it. Now I hate their front office and ownership"....

       She said as a woman, it is sickening, that trade, and said as a former massotherapist when she was in college - she NEVER had anything like that happen. If it had, she would have been angry and really it would have been a bad scene, she would have been telling him off.....or worse.

    She said browns fans deserve so much better than what the browns owners and fo did. Said he should not be allowed to play and have anyone cheering for him, if it ever does happen.

       Didn't expect that - but she was right.

    @calfoxwc said:

    so, we went to the Canfield Fair - it is a giant of a fair. 353 acres, hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.

    It takes a good while to ride the tractor-driven wagons all around the fair.

       Great time. Talked with some veterans in a veteran's row several booths.

    Downside - went to a booth for a large lemonade. They were 7$ for a large. It was little ice, seemed like little sugar, and was warm. Iced it and put sugar in it when we got home, it was good.

    I was surprised to talk with a vendor about watson. She sold flags, had flags for every pro team, etc etc. I saw a steeler flag and joked that I was offended, I hated the steelers. She laughed and said she hears that all the time. Said I must be a browns fan- I said "yes, but I'm sick of that trade they did, can't stand it. Now I hate their front office and ownership"....

       She said as a woman, it is sickening, that trade, and said as a former massotherapist when she was in college - she NEVER had anything like that happen. If it had, she would have been angry and really it would have been a bad scene, she would have been telling him off.....or worse.

    She said browns fans deserve so much better than what the browns owners and fo did. Said he should not be allowed to play and have anyone cheering for him, if it ever does happen.

       Didn't expect that - but she was right.

    Oh yes !  The Canfield Fair which is the largest county fair  in the state of Ohio  and just amazing.   Established 1846  we used to go to it every year especially in the  1970s with some 100,000+/day  back then when I was in my 20s and the steel mills were rolling. 

    Oh that was fantastic,   still is what a terrific place to go to all 6 days.   I especially liked the Canfield Fair at night.   

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  • @canton-dawg said:

    Meet with non-football staff?

    Isn’t that what got him in trouble in the first place? ?

    LOL. I actually think he meets with psychologists to try to fix his sick behavior.

     I would hope, if they could go back in time, the FO would see that they should NEVER have made that sick, stupid-ass trade with the guaranteed money.

    The haslams are so bad, that maybe they have their people negotiating with him to decide guaranteed unlicensed massotherapy they will personally do for him if he could just get their to a superbowl.

    Just freaking blech.

    @calfoxwc said:

    LOL. I actually think he meets with psychologists to try to fix his sick behavior.

     I would hope, if they could go back in time, the FO would see that they should NEVER have made that sick, stupid-ass trade with the guaranteed money.

    The haslams are so bad, that maybe they have their people negotiating with him to decide guaranteed unlicensed massotherapy they will personally do for him if he could just get their to a superbowl.

    Just freaking blech.

    Yeah- and if high character was a major criteria for success, Tim Tebow would be in the HOF. 

    OTOH, there's several criminals who are.   

  • @calfoxwc said:

    so, we went to the Canfield Fair - it is a giant of a fair. 353 acres, hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.

    It takes a good while to ride the tractor-driven wagons all around the fair.

       Great time. Talked with some veterans in a veteran's row several booths.

    Downside - went to a booth for a large lemonade. They were 7$ for a large. It was little ice, seemed like little sugar, and was warm. Iced it and put sugar in it when we got home, it was good.

    I was surprised to talk with a vendor about watson. She sold flags, had flags for every pro team, etc etc. I saw a steeler flag and joked that I was offended, I hated the steelers. She laughed and said she hears that all the time. Said I must be a browns fan- I said "yes, but I'm sick of that trade they did, can't stand it. Now I hate their front office and ownership"....

       She said as a woman, it is sickening, that trade, and said as a former massotherapist when she was in college - she NEVER had anything like that happen. If it had, she would have been angry and really it would have been a bad scene, she would have been telling him off.....or worse.

    She said browns fans deserve so much better than what the browns owners and fo did. Said he should not be allowed to play and have anyone cheering for him, if it ever does happen.

       Didn't expect that - but she was right.

    Oh yes !  The Canfield Fair which is the largest county fair  in the state of Ohio  and just amazing.   Established 1846  we used to go to it every year especially in the  1970s with some 100,000+/day  back then when I was in my 20s and the steel mills were rolling. 

    Oh that was fantastic,   still is what a terrific place to go to all 6 days.   I especially liked the Canfield Fair at night.   

    305065431_10158522400860951_695033116047058067_n.jpg

    294099855_10158454442850951_4235217393622639344_n.png

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes !  The Canfield Fair which is the largest county fair  in the state of Ohio  and just amazing.   Established 1846  we used to go to it every year especially in the  1970s with some 100,000+/day  back then when I was in my 20s and the steel mills were rolling. 

    Oh that was fantastic,   still is what a terrific place to go to all 6 days.   I especially liked the Canfield Fair at night.   

    305065431_10158522400860951_695033116047058067_n.jpg

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    245,140
     
    CANFIELD — The six-day attendance number for the 2022 Canfield Fair was 245,140, down from 285,126 in 2021. “Weather played a factor in the attendance dip from last year, but it was great to see 8,000 fans in the stands on Sunday night for the Sam Hunt concert, even after all the rain.Sep 7, 2022