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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Not today.  I’m curious what the film reveals.  We like to pile on the two interior guys but I thought Phillips and Taki struggled.   We lost contain on the first TD badly.  Coverage was cleaned up and decent to a large extent.  Looked like Denzel made a nice play on the INT and played man and sat in the back pocket on the WR across the field nicely.

    Myles was missed today. 

    Kevin Stefanski called one of his worst games.  I’m not critical of the going for the TD instead of the FG but the play calls inside the five like others have pointed out were awful. 

    The QB sneak has worked 100% of the time so why get cute there?

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    The QB sneak has worked 100% of the time so why get cute there?

    Agree. 
     

    I said so two hours ago.  Three guys should handle it at that spot…jacoby behind the center and guard and Hunt or Chubb.  If we are going down they better stop those three guys four straight times 

  • @flugel said:

    The QB sneak has worked 100% of the time so why get cute there?

    Agree. 
     

    I said so two hours ago.  Three guys should handle it at that spot…jacoby behind the center and guard and Hunt or Chubb.  If we are going down they better stop those three guys four straight times 

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Agree. 
     

    I said so two hours ago.  Three guys should handle it at that spot…jacoby behind the center and guard and Hunt or Chubb.  If we are going down they better stop those three guys four straight times 

    That’s what a coach thats trying to win would do. But we have a guy that wants to be smarter then the other team. 

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63

     I'm likely not going to go back and read responses from this thread.  But looking at stat lines from avg yards carried per, 3rd down conversions, drive totals, etc etc.   It really speaks to where this team is weakest.

    QB

    DL.  

    You're starting a backup at QB who is one of the most risk averse passers in the NFL.

    Your starting Dline right to left was - UDFA, 4th round tweener backup, 3rd round rotational depth, 4th round rookie.  

    Where were the Browns worst area's today? (and every week)

    Avg depth of target throws (QB)

    YPC surrendered and explosive runs given up.   (DL)

     You really don't have to say anything more than that.   I just don't understand some of the bitching when the flaws of this team are evident and easily exploitable.    If you believed or were lead to believe this team was somehow supremely talented, then I don't know whose ass your head was up this entire time then?    Because it sure wasn't mine. 

    edit: opening drive though - HUGE problem I have with Stef.  I get modern analytics says to be aggressive there on the 4th down call, but you have to read the room and take the points there. Keep the big Mo on your side and reward your opening drive.  Because we would have been 2 of 4 getting ANY points on opening drives.   That's a big deal when you look at it in percentages.

  •  I'm likely not going to go back and read responses from this thread.  But looking at stat lines from avg yards carried per, 3rd down conversions, drive totals, etc etc.   It really speaks to where this team is weakest.

    QB

    DL.  

    You're starting a backup at QB who is one of the most risk averse passers in the NFL.

    Your starting Dline right to left was - UDFA, 4th round tweener backup, 3rd round rotational depth, 4th round rookie.  

    Where were the Browns worst area's today? (and every week)

    Avg depth of target throws (QB)

    YPC surrendered and explosive runs given up.   (DL)

     You really don't have to say anything more than that.   I just don't understand some of the bitching when the flaws of this team are evident and easily exploitable.    If you believed or were lead to believe this team was somehow supremely talented, then I don't know whose ass your head was up this entire time then?    Because it sure wasn't mine. 

    edit: opening drive though - HUGE problem I have with Stef.  I get modern analytics says to be aggressive there on the 4th down call, but you have to read the room and take the points there. Keep the big Mo on your side and reward your opening drive.  Because we would have been 2 of 4 getting ANY points on opening drives.   That's a big deal when you look at it in percentages.

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149

    @tiamat63 said:

     I'm likely not going to go back and read responses from this thread.  But looking at stat lines from avg yards carried per, 3rd down conversions, drive totals, etc etc.   It really speaks to where this team is weakest.

    QB

    DL.  

    You're starting a backup at QB who is one of the most risk averse passers in the NFL.

    Your starting Dline right to left was - UDFA, 4th round tweener backup, 3rd round rotational depth, 4th round rookie.  

    Where were the Browns worst area's today? (and every week)

    Avg depth of target throws (QB)

    YPC surrendered and explosive runs given up.   (DL)

     You really don't have to say anything more than that.   I just don't understand some of the bitching when the flaws of this team are evident and easily exploitable.    If you believed or were lead to believe this team was somehow supremely talented, then I don't know who's ass your head was up this entire time.  Because it sure wasn't mine. 

    While all that is correct, having first and goal inside the 5 yard line and 1st and 10 at the 11 yard line and only getting 3 points, mostly because of play calling is TOTALLY on the coach

  • TypicalBrowns50T TypicalBrowns50 wrote on last edited by

    I think Stefanski is a solid play caller. He’s just hot and cold. Today his worst tendencies surfaced. He’s too aggressive early on, just take the points Kevin. And the Njoku fumble was a huge turnover. 

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    What kind of a pussy gets upset by words on a screen and has no balls to even mention who he is talking about?

    Vagisil?

    He's talking about me...

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    sad but true

    stefanski-269 points

    opponents 335 points

    in the 4th quarter

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    What kind of a pussy gets upset by words on a screen and has no balls to even mention who he is talking about?

    Vagisil?

    of course is nickers ya dummy 

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Thanks for the clarification, but he is a pussy. WTF kind of a man can't say another's name?

    Vagisil for him.

    Yep! With sand in it!

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by syd

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Stefanski is Marty. He is a coward. He is afraid to win.

    still better than hue

  • sydS syd

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Stefanski is Marty. He is a coward. He is afraid to win.

    still better than hue

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    still better than hue

    Or shurmur

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Yes, yes, yes, what he did on 1st and goal from the one was fucking epic Paul Brown style coaching.

    If ShitMyPantski was in prison he would have a welcome sign tattooed on his lower back with an arrow pointing to his asshole. He would hand out a jar of Vaseline to each inmate along with a schedule of when he would be in his cell.

    LOL?

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Dude, we could be drunk and blind folded and be better than Hue. But, we let him go 0-16 after 1-15.

    ShitMyPantski is shit

    wtf is your problem calling me dude

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Lmao. Sorry honey.

    calm down ghoul or you might find yourself back on the bench or was that some sort of gay comment is so im flattered but no thanks i do not have a upside down pineapple logo

  •  I'm likely not going to go back and read responses from this thread.  But looking at stat lines from avg yards carried per, 3rd down conversions, drive totals, etc etc.   It really speaks to where this team is weakest.

    QB

    DL.  

    You're starting a backup at QB who is one of the most risk averse passers in the NFL.

    Your starting Dline right to left was - UDFA, 4th round tweener backup, 3rd round rotational depth, 4th round rookie.  

    Where were the Browns worst area's today? (and every week)

    Avg depth of target throws (QB)

    YPC surrendered and explosive runs given up.   (DL)

     You really don't have to say anything more than that.   I just don't understand some of the bitching when the flaws of this team are evident and easily exploitable.    If you believed or were lead to believe this team was somehow supremely talented, then I don't know whose ass your head was up this entire time then?    Because it sure wasn't mine. 

    edit: opening drive though - HUGE problem I have with Stef.  I get modern analytics says to be aggressive there on the 4th down call, but you have to read the room and take the points there. Keep the big Mo on your side and reward your opening drive.  Because we would have been 2 of 4 getting ANY points on opening drives.   That's a big deal when you look at it in percentages.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

     I'm likely not going to go back and read responses from this thread.  But looking at stat lines from avg yards carried per, 3rd down conversions, drive totals, etc etc.   It really speaks to where this team is weakest.

    QB

    DL.  

    You're starting a backup at QB who is one of the most risk averse passers in the NFL.

    Your starting Dline right to left was - UDFA, 4th round tweener backup, 3rd round rotational depth, 4th round rookie.  

    Where were the Browns worst area's today? (and every week)

    Avg depth of target throws (QB)

    YPC surrendered and explosive runs given up.   (DL)

     You really don't have to say anything more than that.   I just don't understand some of the bitching when the flaws of this team are evident and easily exploitable.    If you believed or were lead to believe this team was somehow supremely talented, then I don't know whose ass your head was up this entire time then?    Because it sure wasn't mine. 

    edit: opening drive though - HUGE problem I have with Stef.  I get modern analytics says to be aggressive there on the 4th down call, but you have to read the room and take the points there. Keep the big Mo on your side and reward your opening drive.  Because we would have been 2 of 4 getting ANY points on opening drives.   That's a big deal when you look at it in percentages.

    Thank you!  But they're thinking you don't understand - it's only Joe Woods sinking this ship all by himself. The DL made practice squad promotee Caleb Huntley look like Jim Brown.  

    Also, if your QB is something like 100% effective on short yardage QB sneaks when we have 1st and goal from the 1 yard line during a game he is struggling throwing the ball - why overthink this and do something that isn't in the cards at all today?  If you're gonna try to square peg a round hole at least get us the sure points of a FG after we fail in 3 success attempts.  

    The sad thing is, there's people that watched that entire game today thinking if we just fire Joe Woods tomorrow - we'll have an upgrade at DC that will put all of the rest of our opponents in gridiron check mate.  Apparently that's easy to do attacking exclusively with pawns up front.  

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    Shitpantski = Matt Nagy 2.0

  • @flugel said:

    You mean we can't pin 100% of the blame on Joe Woods?   Didn't you see how talented we were on the Dline today?  ?Promoted Practice Squad RB and ball boy Caleb Huntley looked like Jim Brown running the ball down our esophagus. So let's cut through the chase here - who do we need to fire or cut this week in order to pretend everything is just perfect next week because of our FO?  Who else can we get rid of?   Wanna just pretend it's only the DC again because practice makes perfect?

    Not today.  I’m curious what the film reveals.  We like to pile on the two interior guys but I thought Phillips and Taki struggled.   We lost contain on the first TD badly.  Coverage was cleaned up and decent to a large extent.  Looked like Denzel made a nice play on the INT and played man and sat in the back pocket on the WR across the field nicely.

    Myles was missed today. 

    Kevin Stefanski called one of his worst games.  I’m not critical of the going for the TD instead of the FG but the play calls inside the five like others have pointed out were awful. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Not today.  I’m curious what the film reveals.  We like to pile on the two interior guys but I thought Phillips and Taki struggled.   We lost contain on the first TD badly.  Coverage was cleaned up and decent to a large extent.  Looked like Denzel made a nice play on the INT and played man and sat in the back pocket on the WR across the field nicely.

    Myles was missed today. 

    Kevin Stefanski called one of his worst games.  I’m not critical of the going for the TD instead of the FG but the play calls inside the five like others have pointed out were awful. 

    Here's the thing.  Is Stefanski a HC in charge of making sure all is well with all 3 phases of the game or just the offense?  Like I said, the Browns won a playoff game in Stefanski's absence when our defense forced 5 turnovers while the OC helped us take advantage of all the short fields.  The Browns ended up scoring 48 points.  

    Why can't he trust his OC that called the plays that night? Then, turn his attention to helping the Defense and STs get things right?

    It feels like all he wants to do is impress people with his play calling, which left a lot to be desired today.  He's hired to be a Head Coach here.  It's about time he starts doing that unless he wants to be the next Matt Nagy...

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Not today.  I’m curious what the film reveals.  We like to pile on the two interior guys but I thought Phillips and Taki struggled.   We lost contain on the first TD badly.  Coverage was cleaned up and decent to a large extent.  Looked like Denzel made a nice play on the INT and played man and sat in the back pocket on the WR across the field nicely.

    Myles was missed today. 

    Kevin Stefanski called one of his worst games.  I’m not critical of the going for the TD instead of the FG but the play calls inside the five like others have pointed out were awful. 

    Here's the thing.  Is Stefanski a HC in charge of making sure all is well with all 3 phases of the game or just the offense?  Like I said, the Browns won a playoff game in Stefanski's absence when our defense forced 5 turnovers while the OC helped us take advantage of all the short fields.  The Browns ended up scoring 48 points.  

    Why can't he trust his OC that called the plays that night? Then, turn his attention to helping the Defense and STs get things right?

    It feels like all he wants to do is impress people with his play calling, which left a lot to be desired today.  He's hired to be a Head Coach here.  It's about time he starts doing that unless he wants to be the next Matt Nagy...

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Here's the thing.  Is Stefanski a HC in charge of making sure all is well with all 3 phases of the game or just the offense?  Like I said, the Browns won a playoff game in Stefanski's absence when our defense forced 5 turnovers while the OC helped us take advantage of all the short fields.  The Browns ended up scoring 48 points.  

    Why can't he trust his OC that called the plays that night? Then, turn his attention to helping the Defense and STs get things right?

    It feels like all he wants to do is impress people with his play calling, which left a lot to be desired today.  He's hired to be a Head Coach here.  It's about time he starts doing that unless he wants to be the next Matt Nagy...

    Shitpantski=Matt Nagy2.0

  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by

    Bill Cowher just slammed John Harbutt 

    Harbutt said he trusted his Def to stop The Bills. Then WHY would you not take the lead?  Harbutt said it was analytics. 

    Note to these analytics people. GO AWAY.  Just play to win the game as Herm once said

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Please, if you are going to use the moniker I created, I would like it if you used the long version. ShitMyPantski

    How true...sadly