¿ QUESTION for all you loyal BROWNS fans. ? Your honest opinions & feelings on this game.
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The draft capital we gave up to get Watson is the same haul it would take to move up (maybe more) for Stroud or Young. And before anyone says we were are headed for top 5 in the draft we are a few moronic brain farts on and off the field away from being 5-0.
And I’d love to bat 1.000 with draft selections the choices we made are the same stupid choices other revered franchises make/miss out on
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I'm glad you're not the Browns GM. I'll agree with Woody, the "Fire the Coach Now" song has always been the #1 hit in Cleveland for decades.
LOL OK- I'll play. Fire Kev now and replace him with who? Dumping a coach in the middle of the season is a sure fired recipe for a disaster.
Until the Browns fix their atrocious run D, it wouldn't matter if Shula or Noll were coaching this team.
We have given Joe Woods 3 years... Each year ending with ... Same result... It's time for a change...
We have given Joe Woods 3 years... Each year ending with ... Same result... It's time for a change...
at the end of last year are defense came on strong and were the only reason that we were in games flipping mayfield just could not complete a pass so as i said before why don't you find a baker forum to go to No one likes you here anyway
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We have given Joe Woods 3 years... Each year ending with ... Same result... It's time for a change...
at the end of last year are defense came on strong and were the only reason that we were in games flipping mayfield just could not complete a pass so as i said before why don't you find a baker forum to go to No one likes you here anyway
at the end of last year are defense came on strong and were the only reason that we were in games flipping mayfield just could not complete a pass so as i said before why don't you find a baker forum to go to No one likes you here anyway
It's far to early for the Baker's Dozen around here to throw in the towel on their man-crush Syd. Maybe not even after he gets released by the Panthers after the season...
BTW, I get along just fine with Nickers, don't often agree with his takes though.
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at the end of last year are defense came on strong and were the only reason that we were in games flipping mayfield just could not complete a pass so as i said before why don't you find a baker forum to go to No one likes you here anyway
It's far to early for the Baker's Dozen around here to throw in the towel on their man-crush Syd. Maybe not even after he gets released by the Panthers after the season...
BTW, I get along just fine with Nickers, don't often agree with his takes though.
It's far to early for the Baker's Dozen around here to throw in the towel on their man-crush Syd. Maybe not even after he gets released by the Panthers after the season...
You literally changed the title of a thread made specifically to mock Baker fans to "Baker Gets His Head Coach Fired" and literally none of them even bothered to muster up even a half-assed retort, with the exception of cal sputtering with a "Yeah, but what about Josh Allen?" ?
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Larry, I'm not trying to win an argument. I'm trying to converse with you - fan to fan/friend to friend. The Browns aren't where they are at today because of Baker (that's a symptom/head ache only). They're where they're at because this FO doesn't know how to draft a franchise QB. The Baker isn't anybody's answer thing has already been proven and punctuated. Game over on that. He's the same as Mitch Trubisky talent wise - but Trubisky is clearly a much more likable kid. The teams in the AFC North that have drafted their franchise QBs since 99 have gone to Super Bowls (Balt, Pitt, Cincy). When this team has 1st overall picks in 2017 and 2018, KC landed Mahomes, Houston landed Watson and Buffalo landed Josh Allen. I already explained all of the why they were successful choices despite the FO/GM's swimming against pre-draft popular opinion. If you read what I wrote in the context it was written in - it should make sense.
Baker was going to ruin once enough film went around. I'm just not buying he was the only problem here in his first 3 years especially.
Tom, it's not just quarterbacks that we've flopped on, our list of first round busts at other positions is epically bad too... Since the return in 1999, we've drafted exactly one guy- Joe Thomas who's going to make the HOF. Joe Haden has an outside chance, and Myles is on a fast track to get there barring serious injury. We had Antonio Gates right under our noses, and whiffed. If you want to posit former Browns front offices and scouting departments couldn't recognize talent when it walked up to them and bit them in the ass, you're not going to get any argument from me.
Mayfield wasn't Berry's pick, and a bunch of us thought he was a pretty decent selection for #1 overall at the time. The other qbs in the first round you mentioned, Mahomes, Allen, and let's toss in Lamar for good measure all had serious question marks. Baker was the least flawed qb of the bunch. It could have been worse- we could have drafted Darnold or Rosen.
Try not to barf when you peruse this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
Tom, it's not just quarterbacks that we've flopped on, our list of first round busts at other positions is epically bad too... Since the return in 1999, we've drafted exactly one guy- Joe Thomas who's going to make the HOF. Joe Haden has an outside chance, and Myles is on a fast track to get there barring serious injury. We had Antonio Gates right under our noses, and whiffed. If you want to posit former Browns front offices and scouting departments couldn't recognize talent when it walked up to them and bit them in the ass, you're not going to get any argument from me.
Mayfield wasn't Berry's pick, and a bunch of us thought he was a pretty decent selection for #1 overall at the time. The other qbs in the first round you mentioned, Mahomes, Allen, and let's toss in Lamar for good measure all had serious question marks. Baker was the least flawed qb of the bunch. It could have been worse- we could have drafted Darnold or Rosen.
Try not to barf when you peruse this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
You make some great points and that list? OUCH! Today though, don't you already have a very good idea what QBs (barring injury)will be competing in the post season? That's what it's all about today. Most of the time, you have to have an elite QB to get there and advance deeper into the playoffs.
I know Baker wasn't drafted by Berry - that's why I brought that up. Once again, I thought he'd be way better than he's become so I was very wrong about him. Let's park the Baker Mayfield stuff.
Organizations have to be very careful not to draft kids that have already played their best football; and find some assets, characteristics and intangibles that offer upside they can work with. People always talk about flaws and imperfections regarding some QBs, which is fine. Have you ever looked at Joe Montana's college passing stats?
1975 28 of 66 42.4% cmp 507 yds 4 TD 8 INT
1977 99 of 189 52.4% cmp 1604 yds 11 TD 8 INT
1978 141 of 260 54.3% cmp 2010 yds 10 TD 9 INT
Any of that forecast one of the best NFL QBs of all time? Of course it didn't so he went in round 3. Did SF draft rear view mirror or were there things they felt they could work with? Guys like him, Russell Wilson and Tom Brady remind us - the draft is still a crap shoot. That said, when you got the right guy - you draft the right guy.
I've had people tell me Otto Graham's passing numbers back in the day prove he couldn't play in today's NFL. I tell them that's what people thought of Joe Montana and his college passing numbers not being good enough for the NFL passing game ahead. His NFL Head Coach was Bill Walsh and guess what? His NFL numbers were killer good because Walsh tapped every ounce of passing talent he had. The irony? Bill Walsh coached under Paul Brown and learned a lot of the West Coast concepts from Paul Brown who drafted Otto Graham back in the day. All Otto Graham did was take Paul Brown's pro football team to 10 consecutive Pro Football Championship Title Games and won 7 of those in his 10 year career. The last 6 Championship Title games were in the NFL where he won 3 Championships. I'll bet a guy like Bill Walsh could have tapped the same type of things out of Otto that he did with Montana.
My favorite 2 Cleveland Browns' QBs (Sipe and Kosar) had some imperfections. Watching each guy succeed and win in spite of those imperfections which is what made them so much fun to root for. The 80s was my favorite decade of following this team. I'd love to get back to that feeling we can win any game instead of how are we going to blow this week's lead?
We have 12 games left - let's see what happens...
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except you had rosen listed as two picks better than Josh Allen.
How did that work out for ya?
Actually, it worked out fine, as we didn't draft Rosen. Didn't draft Allen either... And I'm not going to try and get it through your thick head for the nth time after I looked at around 6 complete games of Allen at Wyoming why I was of the opinion drafting him was a bad idea. Still gotta keep on crowing you guessed right about Josh, huh? Since Baker is sort of flopping down Carolina way. So why not buy a Bills jersey instead?
FWIW, I don't have to continually remind the Board how many times I've been correct on my draft picks, so give it a rest already.
FWIW, I don't have to continually remind the Board how many times I've been correct on my draft picks, so give it a rest already.
Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.
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FWIW, I don't have to continually remind the Board how many times I've been correct on my draft picks, so give it a rest already.
Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.
Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.
My inquiring mind came up with a few hits regarding you saying that "it's going to be fun down in Carolina this year with Baker!" on here. How has THAT worked out for you?
Perhaps bringing up predictions is something you shouldn't be doing.
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The draft capital we gave up to get Watson is the same haul it would take to move up (maybe more) for Stroud or Young. And before anyone says we were are headed for top 5 in the draft we are a few moronic brain farts on and off the field away from being 5-0.
And I’d love to bat 1.000 with draft selections the choices we made are the same stupid choices other revered franchises make/miss out on
The draft capital we gave up to get Watson is the same haul it would take to move up (maybe more) for Stroud or Young. And before anyone says we were are headed for top 5 in the draft we are a few moronic brain farts on and off the field away from being 5-0.
And I’d love to bat 1.000 with draft selections the choices we made are the same stupid choices other revered franchises make/miss out on
This isn't aimed at you personally - it's just an ideal spot to vent. Maybe you're onto something above. Many of the key players that are giving this team a lead/chance to win - weren't drafted by this FO such as Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller, Kareem Hunt. Other guys that are supposed to be important/significant this year like Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward and David Njoku (per new contract right?) were drafted by a previous FO.
When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers. Obviously at QB I have to come to grips with this franchise just can't draft the right QB; and keep the staff and FO around that drafted him long enough to see it past inevitable growing pains. If it weren't for the lone exception to the rule with Bernie Kosar via Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s - how many decades do you suppose we go back in support of what I just said?
So, this year the answer to all our problems is now a suspended QB that our Owner didn't want to draft or have his 2017 FO/staff waste any time researching. Then in 2022, Haslam whips out the press conference statement that he and his organization have never done a better job of researching a QB more thorough than he did with Watson this year? Are ya kidding me Jimmy? The last time Watson played on a mismanaged team like Haslam has THIS YEAR - he had one of his best years statistically while his team went 4-12. What was the excuse? Crappy Coach, Owner and FO. Hmmmmm... Is this REALLY the place Watson wanted to be at or is it the only place that wanted Watson? Watson has 1 playoff win playing for an owner and FO like this one regardless of how well he played.
We only have 6 games left with the backup QB filling in on an offense that has been scoring about 28 points per week. Let's hope Watson really is the answer to the cumulative effect of bad ownership and musical chairs with Head Coaches, Coaching Staffs and Front Offices. I hope it's finally this simple. I'm running out decades here so please excuse my patience level with it all.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
The draft capital we gave up to get Watson is the same haul it would take to move up (maybe more) for Stroud or Young. And before anyone says we were are headed for top 5 in the draft we are a few moronic brain farts on and off the field away from being 5-0.
And I’d love to bat 1.000 with draft selections the choices we made are the same stupid choices other revered franchises make/miss out on
This isn't aimed at you personally - it's just an ideal spot to vent. Maybe you're onto something above. Many of the key players that are giving this team a lead/chance to win - weren't drafted by this FO such as Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller, Kareem Hunt. Other guys that are supposed to be important/significant this year like Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward and David Njoku (per new contract right?) were drafted by a previous FO.
When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers. Obviously at QB I have to come to grips with this franchise just can't draft the right QB; and keep the staff and FO around that drafted him long enough to see it past inevitable growing pains. If it weren't for the lone exception to the rule with Bernie Kosar via Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s - how many decades do you suppose we go back in support of what I just said?
So, this year the answer to all our problems is now a suspended QB that our Owner didn't want to draft or have his 2017 FO/staff waste any time researching. Then in 2022, Haslam whips out the press conference statement that he and his organization have never done a better job of researching a QB more thorough than he did with Watson this year? Are ya kidding me Jimmy? The last time Watson played on a mismanaged team like Haslam has THIS YEAR - he had one of his best years statistically while his team went 4-12. What was the excuse? Crappy Coach, Owner and FO. Hmmmmm... Is this REALLY the place Watson wanted to be at or is it the only place that wanted Watson? Watson has 1 playoff win playing for an owner and FO like this one regardless of how well he played.
We only have 6 games left with the backup QB filling in on an offense that has been scoring about 28 points per week. Let's hope Watson really is the answer to the cumulative effect of bad ownership and musical chairs with Head Coaches, Coaching Staffs and Front Offices. I hope it's finally this simple. I'm running out decades here so please excuse my patience level with it all.
When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers.
I’m not impressed with the job AB and his scouting department has done during his tenure in Berea.
When you have to scour the waiver wire and raid other teams practice squads for a position of need, it’s an indictment of your draft prowess….or lack thereof.
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When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers.
I’m not impressed with the job AB and his scouting department has done during his tenure in Berea.
When you have to scour the waiver wire and raid other teams practice squads for a position of need, it’s an indictment of your draft prowess….or lack thereof.
I’m not impressed with the job AB and his scouting department has done during his tenure in Berea.
When you have to scour the waiver wire and raid other teams practice squads for a position of need, it’s an indictment of your draft prowess….or lack thereof.
Remember back in the old days... We had Al "Bubba" Baker, Big Daddy (Carl Hairston). Veteran leadership that the younger guys leaned on to... Today we have shit and a woke driven franchise... That cares more about Diversity and Inclusion than actually running a Football driven program based on talent rather than numbers...
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The draft capital we gave up to get Watson is the same haul it would take to move up (maybe more) for Stroud or Young. And before anyone says we were are headed for top 5 in the draft we are a few moronic brain farts on and off the field away from being 5-0.
And I’d love to bat 1.000 with draft selections the choices we made are the same stupid choices other revered franchises make/miss out on
This isn't aimed at you personally - it's just an ideal spot to vent. Maybe you're onto something above. Many of the key players that are giving this team a lead/chance to win - weren't drafted by this FO such as Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller, Kareem Hunt. Other guys that are supposed to be important/significant this year like Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward and David Njoku (per new contract right?) were drafted by a previous FO.
When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers. Obviously at QB I have to come to grips with this franchise just can't draft the right QB; and keep the staff and FO around that drafted him long enough to see it past inevitable growing pains. If it weren't for the lone exception to the rule with Bernie Kosar via Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s - how many decades do you suppose we go back in support of what I just said?
So, this year the answer to all our problems is now a suspended QB that our Owner didn't want to draft or have his 2017 FO/staff waste any time researching. Then in 2022, Haslam whips out the press conference statement that he and his organization have never done a better job of researching a QB more thorough than he did with Watson this year? Are ya kidding me Jimmy? The last time Watson played on a mismanaged team like Haslam has THIS YEAR - he had one of his best years statistically while his team went 4-12. What was the excuse? Crappy Coach, Owner and FO. Hmmmmm... Is this REALLY the place Watson wanted to be at or is it the only place that wanted Watson? Watson has 1 playoff win playing for an owner and FO like this one regardless of how well he played.
We only have 6 games left with the backup QB filling in on an offense that has been scoring about 28 points per week. Let's hope Watson really is the answer to the cumulative effect of bad ownership and musical chairs with Head Coaches, Coaching Staffs and Front Offices. I hope it's finally this simple. I'm running out decades here so please excuse my patience level with it all.
This isn't aimed at you personally - it's just an ideal spot to vent. Maybe you're onto something above. Many of the key players that are giving this team a lead/chance to win - weren't drafted by this FO such as Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller, Kareem Hunt. Other guys that are supposed to be important/significant this year like Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward and David Njoku (per new contract right?) were drafted by a previous FO.
When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers. Obviously at QB I have to come to grips with this franchise just can't draft the right QB; and keep the staff and FO around that drafted him long enough to see it past inevitable growing pains. If it weren't for the lone exception to the rule with Bernie Kosar via Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s - how many decades do you suppose we go back in support of what I just said?
So, this year the answer to all our problems is now a suspended QB that our Owner didn't want to draft or have his 2017 FO/staff waste any time researching. Then in 2022, Haslam whips out the press conference statement that he and his organization have never done a better job of researching a QB more thorough than he did with Watson this year? Are ya kidding me Jimmy? The last time Watson played on a mismanaged team like Haslam has THIS YEAR - he had one of his best years statistically while his team went 4-12. What was the excuse? Crappy Coach, Owner and FO. Hmmmmm... Is this REALLY the place Watson wanted to be at or is it the only place that wanted Watson? Watson has 1 playoff win playing for an owner and FO like this one regardless of how well he played.
We only have 6 games left with the backup QB filling in on an offense that has been scoring about 28 points per week. Let's hope Watson really is the answer to the cumulative effect of bad ownership and musical chairs with Head Coaches, Coaching Staffs and Front Offices. I hope it's finally this simple. I'm running out decades here so please excuse my patience level with it all.
great post!!! Going to rattle off some things quickly as I’m traveling
This Current FO has done well in spots.Ethan Pocic.
James Hudson (appears to be a solid pick)
Martin Emmerson - early returns very solid
DPJ a sixth rounder!!!
Greg Newsome the right pick
Nick Harris Day 3 pick good enough to start at Center.
Amari Cooper for a 5th!!!
You swing and miss but you need some hits and certainly enough provided here.
We can’t pick a QB to save our lives but the owner and FO did what they could to bring one here.
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FWIW, I don't have to continually remind the Board how many times I've been correct on my draft picks, so give it a rest already.
Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.
Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.
I'll help you along... I have never done a mock draft, it's a waste of my time (and I don't have the time) trying to do a deep dive on prospects who might get drafted on day three. But I've frequently done a thumbs up thumbs down analysis on the very top prospects. Go look up my pre draft comments about Brady Quinn, Johnny Football, and Deshone Kiser- among others.
And your hero Josh Allen? My scouting report... Can throw the ball in the air a reported 90+ yards, also can't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 yards 1\2 of the time... Pass... He's one of the very rare quarterback birds (like maybe one out of 100) who has managed to fix his accuracy issues in the pros. BTW, one of the reasons I liked Baker pre draft, he was extremely accurate on his long throws.
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My 1st POV of what I do during most Browns games these days (yes, it is gratuitous and nope, I don't care)
My 1st POV of what I do during most Browns games these days (yes, it is gratuitous and nope, I don't care)
As a long term street cyclist-- You're NUTS!!!!
At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.
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As a long term street cyclist-- You're NUTS!!!!
At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.
It's so funny because roadies think we MTBers are crazy, but we think you are for riding on the road with all of the idiot texting drivers!
One thing is for sure though, bikes will prolong our lives and give us a fighting shot at having a great final phase...... Keep on pedaling brother!! ?
What the hell, here's one more. It's my favorite trail and a glimpse of where I've spent all 54yrs of my life (it's much steeper than it looks on GoPro)...
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As a long term street cyclist-- You're NUTS!!!!
At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.
I ride the Towpath from Canal Fulton either north as far as Akron or south to Massillon (It is shut down in Massillon due to an Army Corps project) and I tell you what, my least favorite part of the ride is the mile to and from the Towpath on the streets of town. I don't like riding with traffic at all.
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As a long term street cyclist-- You're NUTS!!!!
At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.
It's so funny because roadies think we MTBers are crazy, but we think you are for riding on the road with all of the idiot texting drivers!
One thing is for sure though, bikes will prolong our lives and give us a fighting shot at having a great final phase...... Keep on pedaling brother!! ?
What the hell, here's one more. It's my favorite trail and a glimpse of where I've spent all 54yrs of my life (it's much steeper than it looks on GoPro)...
It's so funny because roadies think we MTBers are crazy, but we think you are for riding on the road with all of the idiot texting drivers!
One thing is for sure though, bikes will prolong our lives and give us a fighting shot at having a great final phase...... Keep on pedaling brother!! ?
What the hell, here's one more. It's my favorite trail and a glimpse of where I've spent all 54yrs of my life (it's much steeper than it looks on GoPro)...
Hehe... who says you have to ride on roads? I try to avoid it whenever possible... We're blessed here in SW Ohio with the longest off road trail network in the country. 8\10th of a mile on a residential street, and I'm on it.
I can ride to Cincinnati or Columbus from Dayton and it's less than a mile on city streets. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/04/americas-largest-paved-bike-trail-network-miami-valley-trails-is-in-southwest-ohio.html
Oh, over the course of a few years, I completed the 300+ Mile Ohio (River) to (Lake) Erie trail. 90%+ of it is paved trail, and the parts that aren't are zero traffic Amish Hill Country. Because it's already there, the Great American Rail-Trail (East Coast to West Coast) is using almost all of it through Ohio.
PS- imitating RAGBRAI the week long ride across Iowa, put your wheel in the Ohio and then Lake Erie when you finish. I now know why MTB guys use SPD cleats, and not my SPD-L cleats. Seems like getting wet sand in them at Edgewater Beach on the lakeshore is the equivalent of super gluing your cleats to the pedals. Yeah, I took a zero mph crash there...
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It's so funny because roadies think we MTBers are crazy, but we think you are for riding on the road with all of the idiot texting drivers!
One thing is for sure though, bikes will prolong our lives and give us a fighting shot at having a great final phase...... Keep on pedaling brother!! ?
What the hell, here's one more. It's my favorite trail and a glimpse of where I've spent all 54yrs of my life (it's much steeper than it looks on GoPro)...
Hehe... who says you have to ride on roads? I try to avoid it whenever possible... We're blessed here in SW Ohio with the longest off road trail network in the country. 8\10th of a mile on a residential street, and I'm on it.
I can ride to Cincinnati or Columbus from Dayton and it's less than a mile on city streets. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/04/americas-largest-paved-bike-trail-network-miami-valley-trails-is-in-southwest-ohio.html
Oh, over the course of a few years, I completed the 300+ Mile Ohio (River) to (Lake) Erie trail. 90%+ of it is paved trail, and the parts that aren't are zero traffic Amish Hill Country. Because it's already there, the Great American Rail-Trail (East Coast to West Coast) is using almost all of it through Ohio.
PS- imitating RAGBRAI the week long ride across Iowa, put your wheel in the Ohio and then Lake Erie when you finish. I now know why MTB guys use SPD cleats, and not my SPD-L cleats. Seems like getting wet sand in them at Edgewater Beach on the lakeshore is the equivalent of super gluing your cleats to the pedals. Yeah, I took a zero mph crash there...
Hehe... who says you have to ride on roads? I try to avoid it whenever possible... We're blessed here in SW Ohio with the longest off road trail network in the country. 8\10th of a mile on a residential street, and I'm on it.
I can ride to Cincinnati or Columbus from Dayton and it's less than a mile on city streets. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/04/americas-largest-paved-bike-trail-network-miami-valley-trails-is-in-southwest-ohio.html
Oh, over the course of a few years, I completed the 300+ Mile Ohio (River) to (Lake) Erie trail. 90%+ of it is paved trail, and the parts that aren't are zero traffic Amish Hill Country. Because it's already there, the Great American Rail-Trail (East Coast to West Coast) is using almost all of it through Ohio.
PS- imitating RAGBRAI the week long ride across Iowa, put your wheel in the Ohio and then Lake Erie when you finish. I now know why MTB guys use SPD cleats, and not my SPD-L cleats. Seems like getting wet sand in them at Edgewater Beach on the lakeshore is the equivalent of super gluing your cleats to the pedals. Yeah, I took a zero mph crash there...
^ Loved that link!! It's so cool to see areas embrace cycling and actually put money towards it. If you watched the 2nd video I posted, I ended up on the CA Aqueduct and we can ride it 37 miles, point-to-point, one way. It's a mix of asphalt and dirt and most people use a road or gravel bike.
It's a cool thing for us to have for people who don't want to ride trails like I ride, but also don't want to ride on the road with autos piloted by morons. I have a few MTB buddies that do both and they make a whole day out of the 74 miles.
Maybe one day I'll borrow a gravel bike and see what it's like.
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Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.
I'll help you along... I have never done a mock draft, it's a waste of my time (and I don't have the time) trying to do a deep dive on prospects who might get drafted on day three. But I've frequently done a thumbs up thumbs down analysis on the very top prospects. Go look up my pre draft comments about Brady Quinn, Johnny Football, and Deshone Kiser- among others.
And your hero Josh Allen? My scouting report... Can throw the ball in the air a reported 90+ yards, also can't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 yards 1\2 of the time... Pass... He's one of the very rare quarterback birds (like maybe one out of 100) who has managed to fix his accuracy issues in the pros. BTW, one of the reasons I liked Baker pre draft, he was extremely accurate on his long throws.
I'll help you along... I have never done a mock draft, it's a waste of my time (and I don't have the time) trying to do a deep dive on prospects who might get drafted on day three. But I've frequently done a thumbs up thumbs down analysis on the very top prospects. Go look up my pre draft comments about Brady Quinn, Johnny Football, and Deshone Kiser- among others.
And your hero Josh Allen? My scouting report... Can throw the ball in the air a reported 90+ yards, also can't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 yards 1\2 of the time... Pass... He's one of the very rare quarterback birds (like maybe one out of 100) who has managed to fix his accuracy issues in the pros. BTW, one of the reasons I liked Baker pre draft, he was extremely accurate on his long throws.
Accurate and fair enough. Analysis is easier - you can adopt other experts' analyses.
Mock drafts are very, very tough - near impossible to do. Experts are lucky to get a few correct, unless it's a #1 pick and you follow leads in the media and from the team.
Doing mock drafts is hard if someone is afraid to be wrong. I just have fun with it.
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I'll help you along... I have never done a mock draft, it's a waste of my time (and I don't have the time) trying to do a deep dive on prospects who might get drafted on day three. But I've frequently done a thumbs up thumbs down analysis on the very top prospects. Go look up my pre draft comments about Brady Quinn, Johnny Football, and Deshone Kiser- among others.
And your hero Josh Allen? My scouting report... Can throw the ball in the air a reported 90+ yards, also can't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 yards 1\2 of the time... Pass... He's one of the very rare quarterback birds (like maybe one out of 100) who has managed to fix his accuracy issues in the pros. BTW, one of the reasons I liked Baker pre draft, he was extremely accurate on his long throws.
Accurate and fair enough. Analysis is easier - you can adopt other experts' analyses.
Mock drafts are very, very tough - near impossible to do. Experts are lucky to get a few correct, unless it's a #1 pick and you follow leads in the media and from the team.
Doing mock drafts is hard if someone is afraid to be wrong. I just have fun with it.
Accurate and fair enough. Analysis is easier - you can adopt other experts' analyses.
Mock drafts are very, very tough - near impossible to do. Experts are lucky to get a few correct, unless it's a #1 pick and you follow leads in the media and from the team.
Doing mock drafts is hard if someone is afraid to be wrong. I just have fun with it.
I'd rather take a look at the 10 or so players the Browns might actually draft in the first round, instead of looking at marginal prospects. You're right even the draft "experts" like Daniel Jeremiah and the others just rate players, then start guessing.
Can't remember exactly, but I believe they had an open contest a few years back for a million bucks if for anyone to exactly predict just the first round of the draft- and there wasn't a winner.
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