Depodesta finally got his coach but results are the same
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Ultimately this is a grudge you hold because of the Baker situation.
I understand your mind can never be changed until it's too late. I accept that's who you are and it is what it is.
Two things.
First.
- I could dive into the complexity of Stef stealing motions from the Ravens, a lot like what McVay L.A. did, and incorporated that into the pin and pull scheme along with a fake read element that would blow your mind. So this "Stef doesnt adapt" is your feeling more-so than a reality. Had the Browns won yesterday, you wouldn't have been present today let alone saying something like that. Again, it's who you are and it's a short coming I have to deal with should I feel the desire to uncover your posts (like I did now)
Just know, that you're demonstrably incorrect.
Second
- The Pats defense isn't "back". They've hit a great stretch of matchups against bad offensive play and personnel that has given the impression of a return to greatness. They still lack a dominant interior player for their base 2 gaps, their corners are beatable and as we saw with your boy Dugger, when he's forced into matchups on the perimeter, he is a liability.
I'm waiting for the right time to "buy high " when the Pats become too overvauled gambling wise when Vegas goes to capitalize on betting lines based of that articles narrative. People will read that, believe it and wager it at the wrong time - probably against Buffalo.
Let people believe the days of Wilfork and Seymour are back. Good way to make money.
Shit, Tia. I just put a waiver on the Pats defense vs the Bears...
Shit, Tia. I just put a waiver on the Pats defense vs the Bears...
I would too... against the Bears. Beyond that? Play with fire at your own risk.
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Many of us feared this throughout the offseason. The IDL. AND the LB'ers being drafted were built for speed. Speed has pretty much been their philosophy. But would it hold up against the run? And when Anthony Walker went down...well, that just magnified it. Hopefully the new guy from Atlanta that Berry traded for will be the Anthony Walker.
So, for two straight games we were getting smashed by the run. Well, Woods is in the hot seat to do something about it. The Patriots like to run. Third string QB. So, I'll commit more guys to the run and play thinner on the back end. Yup! Worked fairly well. BUT, it put too much strain on the back end. And with Ward being out, the secondary had guys wide open.
The IDL / MLB deficiency is just too large to cover up with a comb-over from the back end.
I've defended Stefanski but have stated that I don't care for what I consider to be over aggressive 4th down decision making. And who knows, that could be an organizational mandate. But he's doing what he can with what he's given to work with. Some people wanted him to run 30 times against Bill Belichick, like that was gonna work. Bill makes you play to your weakness...so you better not have one. And Stef did. It's called, the passing game. He's got Brissett, a career backup, who shouldn't throw when he's on the run.
Three quarters of the DL has to be addressed. (Clowney doesn't play enough) Is Delpit a good enough safety? ILB? Hospital Ward...
This thing has to be evaluated during and after next season when they'll have their QB and have another shot at fixing the D.
...and I heard on The Fan today that the organization just hired two analysts.
Fixing the D will largely be getting the talent that we have already accumulated and paid to play better. The sound bites next training camp will be interesting.And stacking depth…guess what 2/3/4 starters will go down so either Woods or the next guy has to adapt and adjust. Quit complaining about the guys that aren’t there. Every d@mn team deals with it.
Aside from a play or two Ward has been part of the problem in the secondary. 5yr. 100M I know we don’t want to believe it…but it is true.
Fixing the D will largely be getting the talent that we have already accumulated and paid to play better. The sound bites next training camp will be interesting.And stacking depth…guess what 2/3/4 starters will go down so either Woods or the next guy has to adapt and adjust. Quit complaining about the guys that aren’t there. Every d@mn team deals with it.
Aside from a play or two Ward has been part of the problem in the secondary. 5yr. 100M I know we don’t want to believe it…but it is true.
Have we as fans overrated the talent in our secondary? One of the most underrated things Joe Haden did here when he was on top of his game was consistently tackle people - a lot of that was because he was usually in ideal position to do so. That wasn't just in coverage. He was also very good in run support and in open fields. Unfortunately, that all took an early toll on his body to the extent he'd try to play through injuries and his performance declined.
Aside from your point about Ward, his durability can also be a concern given the salary committed to him.
I DO like what I've seen from our rookie Emerson and he's not afraid to tackle people.
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Whenever we fire up the “fire everyone”machine in Cleveland I ask myself “Does the coach have the players to win?”
For once, I think they do.Sure our IDL is weak, but is every unit on every winning team in the NFL perfect? Do all winning coaches in the NFL have the perfect player groups across their teams?
OR?
Are good coaches/organizations able to put their players in the best positions to make plays/win games based on those players’ abilities and skill sets. Our staff for whatever reason can’t make this happen . . . On a pretty talented roster. What do you think Belichick’s record would be with this squad against the schedule we played?
We’re really gonna blame Brissett and Tommy Togiai for opposing wide receivers just milling around the field wide open all year? Uncle Rico could’ve had the same day Zappe had yesterday throwing to guys taking leisurely strolls wide open across First Energy field all day, Its the glaring reason we are 2-4 and not 5-1.
I didn’t go into the season with many expectations but I did expect our touted secondary to be able to cover at least one guy at least one time ?
Yes!!!! Bills secondary. 49ers Oline. Chargers multiple groups…list goes on and on.
Go back and look at unit rankings right around preseason time. The secondary could be the most underachieving unit in the entire NFL.
Yes!!!! Bills secondary. 49ers Oline. Chargers multiple groups…list goes on and on.
Go back and look at unit rankings right around preseason time. The secondary could be the most underachieving unit in the entire NFL.
The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Have some pizza Dutch.
Have some pizza Dutch.
Judging by the box... Seems like my kind of place... I grew up on the real deal...
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Yes!!!! Bills secondary. 49ers Oline. Chargers multiple groups…list goes on and on.
Go back and look at unit rankings right around preseason time. The secondary could be the most underachieving unit in the entire NFL.
The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
Yes!... That same Jordan Poyer that was drafted by.... You guessed it!... And let's not forget Pierre Desir.. Who I desperately wanted to keep. He carved out a nice career for himself... BAH!
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Yes!!!! Bills secondary. 49ers Oline. Chargers multiple groups…list goes on and on.
Go back and look at unit rankings right around preseason time. The secondary could be the most underachieving unit in the entire NFL.
The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
The Bills secondary is out (my point I’m making) but it is next man up. They have rookies and street free agents
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The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
The Bills secondary is out (my point I’m making) but it is next man up. They have rookies and street free agents
The Bills secondary is out (my point I’m making) but it is next man up. They have rookies and street free agents
There was something I mentioned around week... 2? maybe 3? I was noticing A LOT of teams playing more 2 high shell. But I noticed that Woods' calls we're overwhelmingly also out of cover 4, cover 2, cover 6, etc etc. Even on early downs that are naturally more "running" downs.
Then the stats starting coming out from 2021, reduced blitz rates and more 2 high shells than ever. The Bills in 2020 and started making sure their defensive front, the entirety of it, could rush the passer and limit the run. The former a bit more than the latter, but let's be real, they're worried about KC and LAC who aren't strong running teams.
Between the advent of 2 high now being the predominant coverage base, the priority on having a dominant single high safety and a pair of outstanding perimeter corners isn't quite as great when you're playing cloud. So I mentioned that I'm expecting the focus, league wide honestly, to start shifting back to the defensive line being a priority the next 5 or so years. Can't run light box counts and not be punished for it.
The Bills were just ahead of the curve. I mean, they've invested some insane draft capital and money there last few years.
- Oliver
- Basham
- Rousseau
- Epenesa
- Daquan Jones
- Jordan Phillips
- Shaq Lawson
- Von Miller
Those boys get it done, left to right, edge to interior.
So if you're wondering why the Bills have been able to help minimize their injuries on the back end, they've got a great stable of dogs up front on top of the natural progression to defensive designs that don't place exaggeration on exposing their corners. Instead of loading up on DB's and fighting fire with fire, the BUF front office said they're bringing a water truck instead. And that philosophy is reaping early positive results.
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While the Browns seem to have a pathlogical resistance to using high picks on DLine since they used the #1 on Garrett, and they haven't hit on any of the mid to late DLine picks.
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The Bills secondary is out (my point I’m making) but it is next man up. They have rookies and street free agents
There was something I mentioned around week... 2? maybe 3? I was noticing A LOT of teams playing more 2 high shell. But I noticed that Woods' calls we're overwhelmingly also out of cover 4, cover 2, cover 6, etc etc. Even on early downs that are naturally more "running" downs.
Then the stats starting coming out from 2021, reduced blitz rates and more 2 high shells than ever. The Bills in 2020 and started making sure their defensive front, the entirety of it, could rush the passer and limit the run. The former a bit more than the latter, but let's be real, they're worried about KC and LAC who aren't strong running teams.
Between the advent of 2 high now being the predominant coverage base, the priority on having a dominant single high safety and a pair of outstanding perimeter corners isn't quite as great when you're playing cloud. So I mentioned that I'm expecting the focus, league wide honestly, to start shifting back to the defensive line being a priority the next 5 or so years. Can't run light box counts and not be punished for it.
The Bills were just ahead of the curve. I mean, they've invested some insane draft capital and money there last few years.
- Oliver
- Basham
- Rousseau
- Epenesa
- Daquan Jones
- Jordan Phillips
- Shaq Lawson
- Von Miller
Those boys get it done, left to right, edge to interior.
So if you're wondering why the Bills have been able to help minimize their injuries on the back end, they've got a great stable of dogs up front on top of the natural progression to defensive designs that don't place exaggeration on exposing their corners. Instead of loading up on DB's and fighting fire with fire, the BUF front office said they're bringing a water truck instead. And that philosophy is reaping early positive results.
Between the advent of 2 high now being the predominant coverage base, the priority on having a dominant single high safety and a pair of outstanding perimeter corners isn't quite as great when you're playing cloud.
Cloud? is this a when a corner drops to play like a 3rd deep safety?
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Cloud? is this a when a corner drops to play like a 3rd deep safety?
Not so much bubs. Cloud is any given flavor of cover 2 to a side of the field it's called.
The Jets TD bomb where Denzel said he was expecting safety help because he was playing the underneath in a cloud...? yeah, that's what it is.
Edit: this 2 high shift also might help explain the front offices targeting of taller, heavier corners who can get physical being involved against the perimeter running game. They want taller guys with wingspan harder to throw over - Newsome, Emerson. 6'1, 200lbs. 6'2, 200lbs. Definitely a theme there.
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Kurt Warner knows more than me about football. Heck, he could probably still tear us a new one to this day.
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/19/browns-kurt-warner-comments-7-22/
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Kurt Warner knows more than me about football. Heck, he could probably still tear us a new one to this day.
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/19/browns-kurt-warner-comments-7-22/
Kurt Warner knows more than me about football. Heck, he could probably still tear us a new one to this day.
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/19/browns-kurt-warner-comments-7-22/
Unless Stefanski does something, he could end up being Mike Pettine 2.0
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The Bills secondary had Safety Jordan Poyer earning 1st Team All Pro honors and Safety Micha Hyde earning 2nd Team All Pro honors last year. Tra'Davious White was regarded as one of the top cover corners in the NFL before he blew out his ACL in week 11 last year. They were a very good secondary believe it or not. Unfortunately, they're only going to be remembered for the 13 second surgery Mahomes did on them before he pretty much rinsed and repeated the surgery in overtime. This year Buffalo had Von Miller pressuring Mahomes into an INT to preserve their lead in the final minute or so.
The Bills secondary is out (my point I’m making) but it is next man up. They have rookies and street free agents
The Bills secondary is out (my point I’m making) but it is next man up. They have rookies and street free agents
Got it! Thanks for reminding me not to speed read.
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Yeah, I go week to week for defenses. We are 8 friends in my FFL.
That Pats letdown happened a week earlier than expected, and on the offensive side of the ball.
Their defense struggled at times with the DET running game. With Barmore out and against a run heavy/dependent team like the Bears though? Pats -9 was a bait for anybody who put $ on it.
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Yeah, I go week to week for defenses. We are 8 friends in my FFL.
That Pats letdown happened a week earlier than expected, and on the offensive side of the ball.
Their defense struggled at times with the DET running game. With Barmore out and against a run heavy/dependent team like the Bears though? Pats -9 was a bait for anybody who put $ on it.
That Pats letdown happened a week earlier than expected, and on the offensive side of the ball.
Their defense struggled at times with the DET running game. With Barmore out and against a run heavy/dependent team like the Bears though? Pats -9 was a bait for anybody who put $ on it.
Oh man, I avoided a bullet there. Someone had a higher waiver priority so I went for Dallas defense which killed it. In fact I'm thinking of keeping it the whole way.
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That Pats letdown happened a week earlier than expected, and on the offensive side of the ball.
Their defense struggled at times with the DET running game. With Barmore out and against a run heavy/dependent team like the Bears though? Pats -9 was a bait for anybody who put $ on it.
Oh man, I avoided a bullet there. Someone had a higher waiver priority so I went for Dallas defense which killed it. In fact I'm thinking of keeping it the whole way.
Oh man, I avoided a bullet there. Someone had a higher waiver priority so I went for Dallas defense which killed it. In fact I'm thinking of keeping it the whole way.
Dallas against DET? Damn, should have said something sooner, I would have told you that you're an idiot to have done otherwise.
That Cowboys defense is nasty, and they just added big Hank to their IDL.
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Oh man, I avoided a bullet there. Someone had a higher waiver priority so I went for Dallas defense which killed it. In fact I'm thinking of keeping it the whole way.
Dallas against DET? Damn, should have said something sooner, I would have told you that you're an idiot to have done otherwise.
That Cowboys defense is nasty, and they just added big Hank to their IDL.
That Cowboys defense is nasty, and they just added big Hank to their IDL.
why not us... ?.. because Big Hank's age 30 & Dan Quinn will not care
The Dallas Cowboys acquired defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins and a 2024 seventh-round pick from the Las Vegas Raiders for a 2023 sixth-round pick on Tuesday.
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That Cowboys defense is nasty, and they just added big Hank to their IDL.
why not us... ?.. because Big Hank's age 30 & Dan Quinn will not care
The Dallas Cowboys acquired defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins and a 2024 seventh-round pick from the Las Vegas Raiders for a 2023 sixth-round pick on Tuesday.
why not us... ?.. because Big Hank's age 30 & Dan Quinn will not care
The Dallas Cowboys acquired defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins and a 2024 seventh-round pick from the Las Vegas Raiders for a 2023 sixth-round pick on Tuesday.
Maybe we can get John Bosa or Tim Goad out of retirement...
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