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Brady Quinn sucks and always has! Can we please put Derek Anderson back in.

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  • kbndawg K
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    K kbndawg wrote on last edited by
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    I guess the thing that disturbs me the most is that nothing looks different. Honestly, as of right now the Browns' QB position looks no better then it did last year. I understand that Quinn needs time but I'm talking about today. The playcalling looks about the same and the all around QB play looks the same.

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      plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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      BQ needs the rest of the season to be at least partially evaluated sorry he has only a small number of starts

      “What Can BROWN Do For You!” Record for the year. 9-7 + or - 1 and not being swept by any team in the division.
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      • A AZBrowns

        LOL, no, if BQ isn't the answer, then the answer is in college, high school, junior high, elementary school, kindergarten, pre-school, under four-yeas-old, not born yet, or will never exist because it's the Browns and they aren't meant to win.

        DA, for sure, is not the answer.

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        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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        @azbrowns said:

        LOL, no, if BQ isn't the answer, then the answer is in college, high school, junior high, elementary school, kindergarten, pre-school, under four-yeas-old, not born yet, or will never exist because it's the Browns and they aren't meant to win.

        DA, for sure, is not the answer.

        Thank you!! I finally laughed today!

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        • S Sturim

          I'm not going to base the season off the first game...especially against the vikings with the real possibility they will be in the superbowl for the NFC this season. I know people are getting tired of losing and seem to think this mess here in cleveland is going to get turned around in one draft/offseason. IT'S NOT THAT EASY! I'm looking at this season to see some improvement and see how this team does down the road. To simply base everything off this one game is just simply idiotic....give it a chance to get better and don't go shooting for the moon right out of the gate~

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          @sturim said:

          I'm not going to base the season off the first game...especially against the vikings with the real possibility they will be in the superbowl for the NFC this season. I know people are getting tired of losing and seem to think this mess here in cleveland is going to get turned around in one draft/offseason. IT'S NOT THAT EASY! I'm looking at this season to see some improvement and see how this team does down the road. To simply base everything off this one game is just simply idiotic....give it a chance to get better and don't go shooting for the moon right out of the gate~

          My observation is- the Vikings are a good team, but they're not Super Bowl material. Stop Peterson, you stop the Vikings. Gee, didn't Farve look great handing off to AD? Quinn would have had the same result. BTW, the Vikes wrs will scare no one.

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          • D DawgTracker

            Brady will get his season to try out for the QB postion. If he sucks then a new QB will be drafted.

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            C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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            @dawgtracker said:

            Brady will get his season to try out for the QB postion. If he sucks then a new QB will be drafted.

            When you have two QBs, it really means that you don't have any.

            Seriously, many pick MN to go to the playoffs and beyond. Quinn had one game. He split snaps all during training camp. It will take, at least, half a season for the jury to make an informed decision on this.

            Seems like half the fans want the team to lose simply because their Teen Fav isn't starting. And vice versa.

            "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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              @dawgtracker said:

              Brady will get his season to try out for the QB postion. If he sucks then a new QB will be drafted.

              When you have two QBs, it really means that you don't have any.

              Seriously, many pick MN to go to the playoffs and beyond. Quinn had one game. He split snaps all during training camp. It will take, at least, half a season for the jury to make an informed decision on this.

              Seems like half the fans want the team to lose simply because their Teen Fav isn't starting. And vice versa.

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              lodiloboL lodilobo wrote on last edited by
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              @chicopee-john said:

              When you have two QBs, it really means that you don't have any.

              Seriously, many pick MN to go to the playoffs and beyond. Quinn had one game. He split snaps all during training camp. It will take, at least, half a season for the jury to make an informed decision on this.

              Seems like half the fans want the team to lose simply because their Teen Fav isn't starting. And vice versa.

              What did you guys think??? Quinn was going to come in, and all our problems would be solved? The qb is just the tip of the iceberg, here. We need to keep Quinn in there to establish some stability. From what I've seen, I'll take him over DA anytime. This was the coach's first game......give them a little more time to figure things out. If Quinn really sucks, we will know it by game # 8, although I thought he had a lot of positive things going on yesterday. The first half of the game was solid.....ultimately, our defense wore down due to the offense going 3 and out too much. While Quinn definitely threw some bad passes, he ran the offense well. The offensive play calling kind of sucked. The Vikings are hyped to be one of the elite teams this season. If that turns out to be true, then yesterday wasn't as bad as it seems. I say we go 8 - 8 this season. We will continue to improve, but realistically, we don't have the talent to compete for 4 quarters with the top teams. Hopefully, Mangini will change that.

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                LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13 wrote on last edited by
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                I think that anyone calling for a QB switch after yesterday simply needs to void their Browns fan card and never return. The Browns have problems for sure. But QB is not it right now. Brady will continue to get his shot to be the QB for this team. As he should. There seem to be too many fans ready to shoot the QB after one loss...regardless of whose fault the loss was. Yesterday's loss definitely does not rest on Quinn's shoulders. He completed 60 percent of his passes and spread the ball out to 9 different receivers. Was he perfect? No. But he created some opportunities and took a few chances. On the INT, there was clear miscommunitcation between him and Braylon and Quinn should have read the play a little better...as the coverage took away the outside. But, all in all, he didn't play all that bad, especially considering the defense he was up against. He did get sacked 5 times...several times late in the game when the defense knew the Browns were passing on every down. He also avoided quite a few sacks. And he avoided making a DA-esque blunder to end the first half. On that final play, he could have, as DA would have, thrown into tight coverage and risked another pick or possibly a pick-six, but he held the ball and slid safely to avoid an unneccesary hit. I think Quinn will look a lot better next week against Denver. Their defense is not up to the level of the Vikings...although, don't tell Cincy that! Carson Palmer should be benched in Cincy right? He couldn't lead his team to anything more that 7 points against a lot lesser defense! If we all had that attitude, the Browns would have to have an endless supply of QB's in line at the stadium so they could repplace the previous one every game, or possibly every quarter. It kills me to see people calling for a QB change after 1 game...especially when the current QB didn't exactly shit the bed. He just ran into a good defense. Aside from the pick...Quinn played pretty well.

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                  I think that anyone calling for a QB switch after yesterday simply needs to void their Browns fan card and never return. The Browns have problems for sure. But QB is not it right now. Brady will continue to get his shot to be the QB for this team. As he should. There seem to be too many fans ready to shoot the QB after one loss...regardless of whose fault the loss was. Yesterday's loss definitely does not rest on Quinn's shoulders. He completed 60 percent of his passes and spread the ball out to 9 different receivers. Was he perfect? No. But he created some opportunities and took a few chances. On the INT, there was clear miscommunitcation between him and Braylon and Quinn should have read the play a little better...as the coverage took away the outside. But, all in all, he didn't play all that bad, especially considering the defense he was up against. He did get sacked 5 times...several times late in the game when the defense knew the Browns were passing on every down. He also avoided quite a few sacks. And he avoided making a DA-esque blunder to end the first half. On that final play, he could have, as DA would have, thrown into tight coverage and risked another pick or possibly a pick-six, but he held the ball and slid safely to avoid an unneccesary hit. I think Quinn will look a lot better next week against Denver. Their defense is not up to the level of the Vikings...although, don't tell Cincy that! Carson Palmer should be benched in Cincy right? He couldn't lead his team to anything more that 7 points against a lot lesser defense! If we all had that attitude, the Browns would have to have an endless supply of QB's in line at the stadium so they could repplace the previous one every game, or possibly every quarter. It kills me to see people calling for a QB change after 1 game...especially when the current QB didn't exactly shit the bed. He just ran into a good defense. Aside from the pick...Quinn played pretty well.

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                  G gmp wrote on last edited by
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                  @lcdawgfan13 said:

                  I think that anyone calling for a QB switch after yesterday simply needs to void their Browns fan card and never return. The Browns have problems for sure. But QB is not it right now. Brady will continue to get his shot to be the QB for this team. As he should. There seem to be too many fans ready to shoot the QB after one loss...regardless of whose fault the loss was. Yesterday's loss definitely does not rest on Quinn's shoulders. He completed 60 percent of his passes and spread the ball out to 9 different receivers. Was he perfect? No. But he created some opportunities and took a few chances. On the INT, there was clear miscommunitcation between him and Braylon and Quinn should have read the play a little better...as the coverage took away the outside. But, all in all, he didn't play all that bad, especially considering the defense he was up against. He did get sacked 5 times...several times late in the game when the defense knew the Browns were passing on every down. He also avoided quite a few sacks. And he avoided making a DA-esque blunder to end the first half. On that final play, he could have, as DA would have, thrown into tight coverage and risked another pick or possibly a pick-six, but he held the ball and slid safely to avoid an unneccesary hit. I think Quinn will look a lot better next week against Denver. Their defense is not up to the level of the Vikings...although, don't tell Cincy that! Carson Palmer should be benched in Cincy right? He couldn't lead his team to anything more that 7 points against a lot lesser defense! If we all had that attitude, the Browns would have to have an endless supply of QB's in line at the stadium so they could repplace the previous one every game, or possibly every quarter. It kills me to see people calling for a QB change after 1 game...especially when the current QB didn't exactly shit the bed. He just ran into a good defense. Aside from the pick...Quinn played pretty well.

                  So you are now comparing BQ's performance against some (make believe) DA performance??..

                  WTF!!!!!

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                    @lcdawgfan13 said:

                    I think that anyone calling for a QB switch after yesterday simply needs to void their Browns fan card and never return. The Browns have problems for sure. But QB is not it right now. Brady will continue to get his shot to be the QB for this team. As he should. There seem to be too many fans ready to shoot the QB after one loss...regardless of whose fault the loss was. Yesterday's loss definitely does not rest on Quinn's shoulders. He completed 60 percent of his passes and spread the ball out to 9 different receivers. Was he perfect? No. But he created some opportunities and took a few chances. On the INT, there was clear miscommunitcation between him and Braylon and Quinn should have read the play a little better...as the coverage took away the outside. But, all in all, he didn't play all that bad, especially considering the defense he was up against. He did get sacked 5 times...several times late in the game when the defense knew the Browns were passing on every down. He also avoided quite a few sacks. And he avoided making a DA-esque blunder to end the first half. On that final play, he could have, as DA would have, thrown into tight coverage and risked another pick or possibly a pick-six, but he held the ball and slid safely to avoid an unneccesary hit. I think Quinn will look a lot better next week against Denver. Their defense is not up to the level of the Vikings...although, don't tell Cincy that! Carson Palmer should be benched in Cincy right? He couldn't lead his team to anything more that 7 points against a lot lesser defense! If we all had that attitude, the Browns would have to have an endless supply of QB's in line at the stadium so they could repplace the previous one every game, or possibly every quarter. It kills me to see people calling for a QB change after 1 game...especially when the current QB didn't exactly shit the bed. He just ran into a good defense. Aside from the pick...Quinn played pretty well.

                    So you are now comparing BQ's performance against some (make believe) DA performance??..

                    WTF!!!!!

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                    LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13 wrote on last edited by
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                    @gmp said:

                    So you are now comparing BQ's performance against some (make believe) DA performance??..

                    WTF!!!!!

                    Make Believe? Did you WATCH him play last season? Or in this preseason? Give me a break! DA is constantly trying to force plays when he should just eat it. He's been doing that since college and probably high school. It's NEVER going to change.

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                      Brady will get his season to try out for the QB postion. If he sucks then a new QB will be drafted.

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                      LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                      @dawgtracker said:

                      Brady will get his season to try out for the QB postion.

                      I think his tryout will end prior to him getting to 70% of the snaps needed to trigger $11 mil in incentives. Somewhere around week 10.

                      Although if he continues to play like he has vs the Bills, Texans, and Vikings, it may not go more than 3 or 4 weeks.

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                        @gmp said:

                        So you are now comparing BQ's performance against some (make believe) DA performance??..

                        WTF!!!!!

                        Make Believe? Did you WATCH him play last season? Or in this preseason? Give me a break! DA is constantly trying to force plays when he should just eat it. He's been doing that since college and probably high school. It's NEVER going to change.

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                        LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by Lumbergh
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                        @lcdawgfan13 said:

                        Make Believe? Did you WATCH him play last season? Or in this preseason? Give me a break! DA is constantly trying to force plays when he should just eat it. He's been doing that since college and probably high school. It's NEVER going to change.

                        Anderson had 11 TDs by his 4th NFL start. Quinn has 3 TDs thru 4 starts.

                        With Quinn the only way the Browns have a chance is if the other team craps themselves.

                        Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

                        He's the QB equivalent of the prevent defense.

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                          @lcdawgfan13 said:

                          Make Believe? Did you WATCH him play last season? Or in this preseason? Give me a break! DA is constantly trying to force plays when he should just eat it. He's been doing that since college and probably high school. It's NEVER going to change.

                          Anderson had 11 TDs by his 4th NFL start. Quinn has 3 TDs thru 4 starts.

                          With Quinn the only way the Browns have a chance is if the other team craps themselves.

                          Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

                          He's the QB equivalent of the prevent defense.

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                          ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                          @lumbergh said:

                          Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

                          That is exactly, right.

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                            medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                            It was 1 game. What do you want us to do ship him out west? He is way better than Frye! IT WAS 1 game. give the man a chance.

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                              It was 1 game. What do you want us to do ship him out west? He is way better than Frye! IT WAS 1 game. give the man a chance.

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                              LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                              @medicineman said:

                              He is way better than Frye! IT WAS 1 game.

                              It's been 4 games now, not 1.

                              And what exactly makes Quinn better than Frye? Frye was a dink n dunker as well, but he had good short accuracy.

                              Quinn doesn't even have that (and there's no more blaming his sore finger either)

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                                LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by Lumbergh
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                                @jadbf said:

                                Actually he had 8.

                                1 vs Pitt in 2006 1 INT

                                2 vs Balt in 2006 2 INT

                                0 vs TB in 2006 4 INT

                                5 vs Cinn in 2007 1 INT

                                so that's 8/8 TD to INT ratio.

                                Sure 8 is better than 3. and Quinn played badly against Minn and he better show me more soon.

                                I understand your puppet master is all upset again and he posts before thinking when he gets this way.

                                but maybe he can stop lying at least.

                                he had three more in relief appearances vs KC and PIT

                                if you're interested in the TD/INT ratio it was 11/10

                                Quinn is livin large with his 3/3 ratio

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                                  Dudeeeee. Just Chill. During the Redskins and Giants game, Troy Aikman was talking about his first game as a starter. Dallas lost 28-0 and Aikman threw 2 picks and 0 TD's. You have to give Quinn some time. Its the O-Line that's the problem. Alex Mack looked horrible with high snaps and St.Clair was penalized like 4 times.

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                                    LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by Lumbergh
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                                    @jadbf said:

                                    You said starts wonder boy

                                    and that would = 6 games then

                                    so Quinn gets 2 more games right?

                                    I said by his 4th start, not in his 4 starts

                                    and Quinn played vs the 9ers

                                    don't try to out think the room bubba. in case you haven't noticed, you'll be in over your head if you do.

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                                        @lcdawgfan13 said:

                                        Make Believe? Did you WATCH him play last season? Or in this preseason? Give me a break! DA is constantly trying to force plays when he should just eat it. He's been doing that since college and probably high school. It's NEVER going to change.

                                        Anderson had 11 TDs by his 4th NFL start. Quinn has 3 TDs thru 4 starts.

                                        With Quinn the only way the Browns have a chance is if the other team craps themselves.

                                        Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

                                        He's the QB equivalent of the prevent defense.

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                                        @lumbergh said:

                                        Anderson had 11 TDs by his 4th NFL start. Quinn has 3 TDs thru 4 starts.

                                        With Quinn the only way the Browns have a chance is if the other team craps themselves.

                                        Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

                                        He's the QB equivalent of the prevent defense.

                                        In DA's first 4 NFL STARTS, DA had 8 TDs, not 11 TDs. 11 TDs is after playing significant time in 6 games.

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                                          @jadbf said:

                                          You said starts wonder boy

                                          and that would = 6 games then

                                          so Quinn gets 2 more games right?

                                          I said by his 4th start, not in his 4 starts

                                          and Quinn played vs the 9ers

                                          don't try to out think the room bubba. in case you haven't noticed, you'll be in over your head if you do.

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                                          ? Masters wrote on last edited by
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                                          @lumbergh said:

                                          and Quinn played vs the 9ers

                                          One series. Not an entire half like DA against KC in 2006 or 3 QTRs like DA agaisnt PIT in week 1 of 2007.

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