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  • reasons for the "superstar" super qb, but always excuses for Baker. got  it.  It isn't llike watson has only been with the Browns for three days, and expecting him to direct a game winning TD drive and get a game ball for 230 million and three draft choices......

    but the problem is stef - he doesn't make much sense as a hc. You have a once in a decade? RB and he nets 34 yards????

    dammit. But get rid of Steph and you still have the fo and ownership problem. They got outcoached AGAIN.

    watson has a nice arm, but accuracy is crap. Made a few good throws. Here and there. The worst qb in the nfl can do that. Well, except for Josh Rosen....

        Wouldn't let York try a FG......too bad.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Yes.

    But they will not. He'll get fired during or after next season. 

    I didn't see the game today.  So I looked up the playbook to check the Brissett pass.  So Stef sent him in there on a 4th and 1.  And because he's a very good QB sneak quarterback, and Hudson reported as an eligible receiver, it would certainly look like a QB sneak.  Stef thought he'd have a wide open receiver.

    Is that the way it was?   I mean, Jacoby wasn't in a shot-gun or anything was he?   (I haven't seen the play)

    ....of course, I'm not a big fan of the way he's been passing up FG's this season, but we just don't know for sure if it's an organizational mandate (analytics).  

    @orion said:

    I didn't see the game today.  So I looked up the playbook to check the Brissett pass.  So Stef sent him in there on a 4th and 1.  And because he's a very good QB sneak quarterback, and Hudson reported as an eligible receiver, it would certainly look like a QB sneak.  Stef thought he'd have a wide open receiver.

    Is that the way it was?   I mean, Jacoby wasn't in a shot-gun or anything was he?   (I haven't seen the play)

    ....of course, I'm not a big fan of the way he's been passing up FG's this season, but we just don't know for sure if it's an organizational mandate (analytics).  

    To be fair, it was set up perfectly.

    Everyone in the stadium thought JB was going to QB sneak, he gets under center, fakes a handoff (I believe?) and rolls back and overthrowns DPJ, who had at least one, maybe two steps on the nearest defender. A decent throw and it is a touchdown. 

  • There is  NO  template or road map or anything else that would explain what happens for a player who's been out around two years and is being sued by dozens of women (you know the story)  etc, etc.   None.

    It's one week at a time, one game at a time.

    Anything else is just needless conjecture.   Eh ?   😕

    @mjp28 said:

    There is  NO  template or road map or anything else that would explain what happens for a player who's been out around two years and is being sued by dozens of women (you know the story)  etc, etc.   None.

    It's one week at a time, one game at a time.

    Anything else is just needless conjecture.   Eh ?   😕

    While this is true, he could use a better Head Coach

  • reasons for the "superstar" super qb, but always excuses for Baker. got  it.  It isn't llike watson has only been with the Browns for three days, and expecting him to direct a game winning TD drive and get a game ball for 230 million and three draft choices......

    but the problem is stef - he doesn't make much sense as a hc. You have a once in a decade? RB and he nets 34 yards????

    dammit. But get rid of Steph and you still have the fo and ownership problem. They got outcoached AGAIN.

    watson has a nice arm, but accuracy is crap. Made a few good throws. Here and there. The worst qb in the nfl can do that. Well, except for Josh Rosen....

        Wouldn't let York try a FG......too bad.

    @calfoxwc said:

    reasons for the "superstar" super qb, but always excuses for Baker. got  it.  It isn't llike watson has only been with the Browns for three days, and expecting him to direct a game winning TD drive and get a game ball for 230 million and three draft choices......

    Does your wife know you wish it was you in Baker's SUV at the Cheesecake Factory blowing him? 

    You'd enjoy that "bigly", I suspect. 

  • reasons for the "superstar" super qb, but always excuses for Baker. got  it.  It isn't llike watson has only been with the Browns for three days, and expecting him to direct a game winning TD drive and get a game ball for 230 million and three draft choices......

    but the problem is stef - he doesn't make much sense as a hc. You have a once in a decade? RB and he nets 34 yards????

    dammit. But get rid of Steph and you still have the fo and ownership problem. They got outcoached AGAIN.

    watson has a nice arm, but accuracy is crap. Made a few good throws. Here and there. The worst qb in the nfl can do that. Well, except for Josh Rosen....

        Wouldn't let York try a FG......too bad.

    @calfoxwc said:

    reasons for the "superstar" super qb, but always excuses for Baker. got  it.  It isn't llike watson has only been with the Browns for three days, and expecting him to direct a game winning TD drive and get a game ball for 230 million and three draft choices......

    Baker didn't have a 700 day lay off. When the NFL extended Watson's suspension from 6 to 11 games, our season was effectively over, we hoped otherwise but it is what is.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    reasons for the "superstar" super qb, but always excuses for Baker. got  it.  It isn't llike watson has only been with the Browns for three days, and expecting him to direct a game winning TD drive and get a game ball for 230 million and three draft choices......

    Baker didn't have a 700 day lay off. When the NFL extended Watson's suspension from 6 to 11 games, our season was effectively over, we hoped otherwise but it is what is.

    @mddawg said:

    Baker didn't have a 700 day lay off. When the NFL extended Watson's suspension from 6 to 11 games, our season was effectively over, we hoped otherwise but it is what is.

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

  • @mddawg said:

    Baker didn't have a 700 day lay off. When the NFL extended Watson's suspension from 6 to 11 games, our season was effectively over, we hoped otherwise but it is what is.

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

    Self inflicted doesn't matter in the reality of things it's still almost 2 years not playing at game speed. The good news is that his play noticeably improved from last week so maybe by the end of the season we'll see the DeShaun we paid for. I watched part of the game and there was a near sack with his legs wrapped up where he still made a long completion. I'm optimistic for the future.

  • There is  NO  template or road map or anything else that would explain what happens for a player who's been out around two years and is being sued by dozens of women (you know the story)  etc, etc.   None.

    It's one week at a time, one game at a time.

    Anything else is just needless conjecture.   Eh ?   😕

    @mjp28 said:

    There is  NO  template or road map or anything else that would explain what happens for a player who's been out around two years and is being sued by dozens of women (you know the story)  etc, etc.   None.

    ^ add to the above, handed 23% of a billion dollars in fully guaranteed money no matter how he performs on the field..... what could possibly go wrong with that? 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

    Self inflicted doesn't matter in the reality of things it's still almost 2 years not playing at game speed. The good news is that his play noticeably improved from last week so maybe by the end of the season we'll see the DeShaun we paid for. I watched part of the game and there was a near sack with his legs wrapped up where he still made a long completion. I'm optimistic for the future.

    @mddawg said:

    Self inflicted doesn't matter in the reality of things it's still almost 2 years not playing at game speed. The good news is that his play noticeably improved from last week so maybe by the end of the season we'll see the DeShaun we paid for. I watched part of the game and there was a near sack with his legs wrapped up where he still made a long completion. I'm optimistic for the future.

    The good news is that this throws looked much better today than his first week. The worm burners were noticeably gone today. He missed some open guys and at times seemed a click late on other throws, but I would imagine that will keep getting better as these final games go on. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    There is  NO  template or road map or anything else that would explain what happens for a player who's been out around two years and is being sued by dozens of women (you know the story)  etc, etc.   None.

    ^ add to the above, handed 23% of a billion dollars in fully guaranteed money no matter how he performs on the field..... what could possibly go wrong with that? 

    @d-bone said:

    ^ add to the above, handed 23% of a billion dollars in fully guaranteed money no matter how he performs on the field..... what could possibly go wrong with that? 

    Absolutely nothing.     😆.   

    Now from a business or financial perspective well let's put it in their terms .....  AHHHHHHHH !   What were you thinking  ?   Are you out of your freakin' mind ?   Oh and draft picks too ..... oh yeah.   Brilliant.       😳

  • @d-bone said:

    ^ add to the above, handed 23% of a billion dollars in fully guaranteed money no matter how he performs on the field..... what could possibly go wrong with that? 

    Absolutely nothing.     😆.   

    Now from a business or financial perspective well let's put it in their terms .....  AHHHHHHHH !   What were you thinking  ?   Are you out of your freakin' mind ?   Oh and draft picks too ..... oh yeah.   Brilliant.       😳

    @mjp28 said:

    Absolutely nothing.     😆.   

    Now from a business or financial perspective well let's put it in their terms .....  AHHHHHHHH !   What were you thinking  ?   Are you out of your freakin' mind ?   Oh and draft picks too ..... oh yeah.   Brilliant.       😳

    I don't pay my gardener, er landscaping technician, until he finishes his 4th and final service of the month, pretty sure I wouldn't hand an athlete money I couldn't recoup before they performed.... but I guess I'm weird that way. ?

  • @mjp28 said:

    Absolutely nothing.     😆.   

    Now from a business or financial perspective well let's put it in their terms .....  AHHHHHHHH !   What were you thinking  ?   Are you out of your freakin' mind ?   Oh and draft picks too ..... oh yeah.   Brilliant.       😳

    I don't pay my gardener, er landscaping technician, until he finishes his 4th and final service of the month, pretty sure I wouldn't hand an athlete money I couldn't recoup before they performed.... but I guess I'm weird that way. ?

    @d-bone said:

    I don't pay my gardener, er landscaping technician, until he finishes his 4th and final service of the month, pretty sure I wouldn't hand an athlete money I couldn't recoup before they performed.... but I guess I'm weird that way. ?

    Watson mows your lawn ?

  • sydS syd

    @d-bone said:

    I don't pay my gardener, er landscaping technician, until he finishes his 4th and final service of the month, pretty sure I wouldn't hand an athlete money I couldn't recoup before they performed.... but I guess I'm weird that way. ?

    Watson mows your lawn ?

    @syd said:

    Watson mows your lawn ?

    No, but if he did, he wouldn't get paid until he performed up to my expectations. 

  • @syd said:

    Watson mows your lawn ?

    No, but if he did, he wouldn't get paid until he performed up to my expectations. 

    @d-bone said:

    No, but if he did, he wouldn't get paid until he performed up to my expectations. 

    guess it expects what your expectations are ? we all have different ideals some are patient some arnt  I mean was your hedge pruned properly ? what about the edging of your lawn ? are going to fire them before they can make it right ? or give them a second chance

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Ted Williams gave a lot of his prime to his country, he came back and didn't miss a step.

    Muhammad Ali, a coward who self-imposed a long layoff came back to top form in a short period of time.

    Watson is making roughly 3 million dollars for a.60 minute game. Fuck his warm up time. If the cocksucker needs 6 games to get back to his regular self? Then he needs to refund the Browns for those gdidn't,

    We didn't pay for this shit.

    Muhammad Ali a coward? ?? I didn't continue reading after that

  • sydS syd

    @d-bone said:

    No, but if he did, he wouldn't get paid until he performed up to my expectations. 

    guess it expects what your expectations are ? we all have different ideals some are patient some arnt  I mean was your hedge pruned properly ? what about the edging of your lawn ? are going to fire them before they can make it right ? or give them a second chance

    @syd said:

    guess it expects what your expectations are ? we all have different ideals some are patient some arnt  I mean was your hedge pruned properly ? what about the edging of your lawn ? are going to fire them before they can make it right ? or give them a second chance

    If you wanted your house painted, would you call up your town's best painting contractor, negotiate a price and then deposit the full $15K dollars into their account before they so much as set foot on your property?

    ^ Rhetorical question, as we all know what happens to the vast majority of humans when they lose the carrot. Watson is going to have to be elite, and in more ways than one, to not simply be human. 

    I will tell you this, if someone paid me 2 million up front to race motocross, I would make many a business decision per lap compared to if I had to win to get that same 2 million.... imagine how I would ride with two zeros after the number 2. 

    But what do I know, the rust will just drip away sooner or later....... right? 

  • Watson had 309 yards of total offense , 1 TD and 1 INT. And then I read the comments about him and wonder to myself if these people even watched the same game I did? 

    The one announcer last week said Watson is a football junkie. Still some won't even consider the obvious and if you do then you're just making excuses. What he's doing is fucking amazing and I hope he continues to progress. 

  • @syd said:

    guess it expects what your expectations are ? we all have different ideals some are patient some arnt  I mean was your hedge pruned properly ? what about the edging of your lawn ? are going to fire them before they can make it right ? or give them a second chance

    If you wanted your house painted, would you call up your town's best painting contractor, negotiate a price and then deposit the full $15K dollars into their account before they so much as set foot on your property?

    ^ Rhetorical question, as we all know what happens to the vast majority of humans when they lose the carrot. Watson is going to have to be elite, and in more ways than one, to not simply be human. 

    I will tell you this, if someone paid me 2 million up front to race motocross, I would make many a business decision per lap compared to if I had to win to get that same 2 million.... imagine how I would ride with two zeros after the number 2. 

    But what do I know, the rust will just drip away sooner or later....... right? 

    @d-bone said:

    If you wanted your house painted, would you call up your town's best painting contractor, negotiate a price and then deposit the full $15K dollars into their account before they so much as set foot on your property?

    ^ Rhetorical question, as we all know what happens to the vast majority of humans when they lose the carrot. Watson is going to have to be elite, and in more ways than one, to not simply be human. 

    I will tell you this, if someone paid me 2 million up front to race motocross, I would make many a business decision per lap compared to if I had to win to get that same 2 million.... imagine how I would ride with two zeros after the number 2. 

    But what do I know, the rust will just drip away sooner or later....... right? 

    um my bro in law painted my house and i paid him up front

  • sydS syd

    @d-bone said:

    If you wanted your house painted, would you call up your town's best painting contractor, negotiate a price and then deposit the full $15K dollars into their account before they so much as set foot on your property?

    ^ Rhetorical question, as we all know what happens to the vast majority of humans when they lose the carrot. Watson is going to have to be elite, and in more ways than one, to not simply be human. 

    I will tell you this, if someone paid me 2 million up front to race motocross, I would make many a business decision per lap compared to if I had to win to get that same 2 million.... imagine how I would ride with two zeros after the number 2. 

    But what do I know, the rust will just drip away sooner or later....... right? 

    um my bro in law painted my house and i paid him up front

    @syd said:

    um my bro in law painted my house and i paid him up front

    Well, I guess it wasn't a rhetorical question to you. I keep waiting for people to pay me in full before I start work, but no one seems to want to.

    Although, there's a big job coming out for bid at our local Pilot Flying J, so there's a chance baby! 

  • DBone's head is going to explode when his chauffeur or butler informs him that virtually all contracts in MLB, NBA and the NHL are fully guaranteed.