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  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    He barely had time to set up.  Our O line sucked.  Get past your hate of our quarterback.

    If that was Mayfield yesterday, the loss would be totally his fault...according to you and the Cleveland media. I don't hate Watson....but he sucks. Now Haslam?...yeah...I hate him.

    @lodilobo said:

    If that was Mayfield yesterday, the loss would be totally his fault...according to you and the Cleveland media. I don't hate Watson....but he sucks. Now Haslam?...yeah...I hate him.

    Hardly.   The Oline and our Defense sucked.  Chubb had less than 40 yards rushing.  But keep up the hate of OUR quarterback.

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    He barely had time to set up.  Our O line sucked.  Get past your hate of our quarterback.

    Tell that to Bob Feller and Ted Williams who had their careers halted by Military service .. Came back to the game and didn't miss a beat...This clown has been abysmal...

    @nickers said:

    Tell that to Bob Feller and Ted Williams who had their careers halted by Military service .. Came back to the game and didn't miss a beat...This clown has been abysmal...

    You're comparing baseball pitchers to NFL Quarterbacks.

  • @mddawg said:

    Baker didn't have a 700 day lay off. When the NFL extended Watson's suspension from 6 to 11 games, our season was effectively over, we hoped otherwise but it is what is.

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

    You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers.  Kind of hard to do on your own.,

  • @nickers said:

    Tell that to Bob Feller and Ted Williams who had their careers halted by Military service .. Came back to the game and didn't miss a beat...This clown has been abysmal...

    You're comparing baseball pitchers to NFL Quarterbacks.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    You're comparing baseball pitchers to NFL Quarterbacks.

    If your good... your good.. No excuses... I was going off of what Ghoolie originally posted

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    But...excuses. 

    ...or is it reasons?   Like, this was his second football game in two years.  And he's on a new team but wasn't allowed to 'be' with the team and get in sync with his new players.   They're called 'reasons' because many of us anticipated this type of start for Watson.  Of course, those who think that someone can be plopped into this type of situation and come out of the box with 125 passer rating....well, I got nothin' for ya.

    @orion said:

    ...or is it reasons?   Like, this was his second football game in two years.  And he's on a new team but wasn't allowed to 'be' with the team and get in sync with his new players.   They're called 'reasons' because many of us anticipated this type of start for Watson.  Of course, those who think that someone can be plopped into this type of situation and come out of the box with 125 passer rating....well, I got nothin' for ya.

    This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms. 

  • Todays 49ers vs Buccaneers game is rookie Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady.

    It is the largest age difference between starting QBs in the history of the NFL. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Todays 49ers vs Buccaneers game is rookie Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady.

    It is the largest age difference between starting QBs in the history of the NFL. 

    Purdy and the 49ers took Brady behind the woodshed yesterday. Hurts me to say that because I always been a fan of Brady. But he finally looks his age on the field, underthrowing receivers like he just doesn't have the arm anymore. It's an end of an era. Like him or hate him, he's everything every fan wants in a quarterback.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Jesus H. Christ.

    In the litany of truly idiotic things you've spouted on here, congratulations, you've reached a new low. Marciano was 19 years older than Ali. By the time Ali won a Gold Medal at the age of 18 at the 1960 Olympics, Marciano was already 37 years old. He had retired from boxing in 1956, when Clay/Ali was 14 years old. 

    And Ali became a Muslim in 1961, years before the first American troops entered Vietnam. 

    Embarrassing. 

    Go argue about it with my dead father...

    @nickers said:

    Go argue about it with my dead father...

    Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun. 

    Jesus. 

  • Looks like Kyler Murray's season could be over, knee injury. 

  • N Neo

    @dutch-oven said:

    Todays 49ers vs Buccaneers game is rookie Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady.

    It is the largest age difference between starting QBs in the history of the NFL. 

    Purdy and the 49ers took Brady behind the woodshed yesterday. Hurts me to say that because I always been a fan of Brady. But he finally looks his age on the field, underthrowing receivers like he just doesn't have the arm anymore. It's an end of an era. Like him or hate him, he's everything every fan wants in a quarterback.

    @neo said:

    Purdy and the 49ers took Brady behind the woodshed yesterday. Hurts me to say that because I always been a fan of Brady. But he finally looks his age on the field, underthrowing receivers like he just doesn't have the arm anymore. It's an end of an era. Like him or hate him, he's everything every fan wants in a quarterback.

    His retirement is going to make me feel really old.

    I believe he's the last American professional athlete still playing who was born in the 1970s.

    I still remember how weird it was in the 90s when there started to be players younger than me. 

  • @orion said:

    ...or is it reasons?   Like, this was his second football game in two years.  And he's on a new team but wasn't allowed to 'be' with the team and get in sync with his new players.   They're called 'reasons' because many of us anticipated this type of start for Watson.  Of course, those who think that someone can be plopped into this type of situation and come out of the box with 125 passer rating....well, I got nothin' for ya.

    This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms. 

    Last game, I saw little or none of that this game.  I hope when he starts lighting it up we'll get the same number of posts about his performance.

  • @nickers said:

    Go argue about it with my dead father...

    Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun. 

    Jesus. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun. 

    Jesus. 

    Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms. 

    Last game, I saw little or none of that this game.  I hope when he starts lighting it up we'll get the same number of posts about his performance.

    @mddawg said:

    Last game, I saw little or none of that this game.  I hope when he starts lighting it up we'll get the same number of posts about his performance.

    It is what it is. A lot of people on here are never going to root for Watson, mostly because of his off-field stuff (completely understandable) and in some respect because of the love Baker Mayfield gets from others (baffling). 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun. 

    Jesus. 

    Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...

    @nickers said:

    Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...

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  • @nickers said:

    Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...

    cartman tears .png

    @dutch-oven said:

    cartman tears .png

    Only a fag would call himself "Dutch Oven"... You're fag... bye!

  • And in our little TBB MNF PICKEM tonight the picks are :

    AZ (+1.5)  10    NE  9  and the usual  4 no picks.    So there you go.    Is anyone watching  ?   I just turned it on. 

  • Oh BTW   MNF  is 13-13 in the 3rd, about 6 minutes left.

  • Oh BTW   MNF  is 13-13 in the 3rd, about 6 minutes left.

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh BTW   MNF  is 13-13 in the 3rd, about 6 minutes left.

    Oh scoop, score NE 20-13 FWIW.  Hard to watch some of these late games if you don't have a  player in them.

  • GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray was carted off the field with a noncontact knee injury less than 90 seconds into Monday night's game against the New England Patriots.

    He is scheduled to undergo further testing on Tuesday, including an MRI, but a source told ESPN there is "little doubt that it's torn," referring to the quarterback's ACL.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and  the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.

       He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.

    You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers.  Kind of hard to do on your own.,

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers.  Kind of hard to do on your own.,

    Voice of reason - well said!  Think back to week 1 when a lot of fans couldn't wait to assure us Brissett was unacceptable; and all we needed to do was start Dobbs.  They was wrong!

    Right now, the guy in charge of our Offense (Stefanski) is doing what he did to Kirk Cousins. Minnesota fans quickly became critics of the Cousins' contract.  If memory serves me right, their best WR Stephon Diggs wanted out of that offense.  Some of that was the design of the pass routes and lack of knowledge covered up by the ole "this is a TE friendly offense."  Yeah, they really made a star out of former 1st round pick Kyle Rudolph (from ND) there. Translating that to Cleveland - Austin Hooper was a disappointment while Harrison Bryant hasn't developed into the guy we hoped he would become as a former Mackey Award winner in college.   Both Cousins and Diggs are much happier today without Stefanski's handcuffs on their talent. I'm not seeing many receivers or TEs blossom here.  

    It feels like we've become that Minnesota fan base, only with a much worse track record on finding the right QB and giving them the successful environment to succeed in.  Minnesota differs because guys like Rich Gannon, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson and even Randall Cunningham (who put up the best passing numbers and QB rating of his career) played extremely well in the WCO there.  A well proven system vrs trial and error. A lot of anger, frustration and hostility with only the QB receiving it all.  At 1 point, the commentators showed a replay of Browns' Receivers downfield just standing there next to the DBs in lieu of adjusting the route to the situation.  Most of the opponents left on our schedule will be able to stop Chubb on 3rd and long.

    I keep telling people we're at the mercy of a horrible owner listening to FO guys making another Poseiden Adventure on Lake Erie out of this football franchise.  The 1st thing I'd do if I was the owner (Heaven Help us!) is tell Stefanski you weren't hired or paid to just be the OC.  I would make the Head Coach of this mess micro-manage the shit out of this Special Teams nightmare (also counting currently another another Coordinator from Zimmer's chicken shit football program in Minnesota).  Our Defense just forced them to punt from their own 5 yard line and they rough the kicker without anyone even close to blocking that punt. 

    Younger players are not getting developed in this football program.  Don't let the media circus about Watson blind you to all this.  If you want to see great QB development and the perfect environment to get that done look at Philly.  Look what they added on their perimeter.  Does anyone need to learn HOW TO FUCKING CATCH a football there?  Not to worry though, fans are going to think the QB (the symptom) is the only problem.  They always do like the T-Shirt full of names of QBs that failed reminds us here.  That T-shirt is just as much (or more) of a reflection on the shit at the top of this franchise. They sentence us to the Head Coaches and QBs this fan base is well trained to hate.  With every firing follows a hiring that ends up with the same exact result.  The Browns have gone nowhere since 1999 because the people at the top of this organization. Our current FO thinks IDL aren't important - do you think they even noticed DJ Reader totally dominating the Browns' Offense/front?   That guy ate this offense like Pez...