"The" ? Official Browns at Bengals Game 13 Thread • WEEK 14 • ?
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Baker didn't have a 700 day lay off. When the NFL extended Watson's suspension from 6 to 11 games, our season was effectively over, we hoped otherwise but it is what is.
I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.
He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.
I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.
He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.
You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers. Kind of hard to do on your own.,
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You're comparing baseball pitchers to NFL Quarterbacks.
If your good... your good.. No excuses... I was going off of what Ghoolie originally posted
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But...excuses.
...or is it reasons? Like, this was his second football game in two years. And he's on a new team but wasn't allowed to 'be' with the team and get in sync with his new players. They're called 'reasons' because many of us anticipated this type of start for Watson. Of course, those who think that someone can be plopped into this type of situation and come out of the box with 125 passer rating....well, I got nothin' for ya.
...or is it reasons? Like, this was his second football game in two years. And he's on a new team but wasn't allowed to 'be' with the team and get in sync with his new players. They're called 'reasons' because many of us anticipated this type of start for Watson. Of course, those who think that someone can be plopped into this type of situation and come out of the box with 125 passer rating....well, I got nothin' for ya.
This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Todays 49ers vs Buccaneers game is rookie Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady.
It is the largest age difference between starting QBs in the history of the NFL.
Todays 49ers vs Buccaneers game is rookie Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady.
It is the largest age difference between starting QBs in the history of the NFL.
Purdy and the 49ers took Brady behind the woodshed yesterday. Hurts me to say that because I always been a fan of Brady. But he finally looks his age on the field, underthrowing receivers like he just doesn't have the arm anymore. It's an end of an era. Like him or hate him, he's everything every fan wants in a quarterback.
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Jesus H. Christ.
In the litany of truly idiotic things you've spouted on here, congratulations, you've reached a new low. Marciano was 19 years older than Ali. By the time Ali won a Gold Medal at the age of 18 at the 1960 Olympics, Marciano was already 37 years old. He had retired from boxing in 1956, when Clay/Ali was 14 years old.
And Ali became a Muslim in 1961, years before the first American troops entered Vietnam.
Embarrassing.
Go argue about it with my dead father...
Go argue about it with my dead father...
Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun.
Jesus.
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Looks like Kyler Murray's season could be over, knee injury.
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Todays 49ers vs Buccaneers game is rookie Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady.
It is the largest age difference between starting QBs in the history of the NFL.
Purdy and the 49ers took Brady behind the woodshed yesterday. Hurts me to say that because I always been a fan of Brady. But he finally looks his age on the field, underthrowing receivers like he just doesn't have the arm anymore. It's an end of an era. Like him or hate him, he's everything every fan wants in a quarterback.
Purdy and the 49ers took Brady behind the woodshed yesterday. Hurts me to say that because I always been a fan of Brady. But he finally looks his age on the field, underthrowing receivers like he just doesn't have the arm anymore. It's an end of an era. Like him or hate him, he's everything every fan wants in a quarterback.
His retirement is going to make me feel really old.
I believe he's the last American professional athlete still playing who was born in the 1970s.
I still remember how weird it was in the 90s when there started to be players younger than me.
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...or is it reasons? Like, this was his second football game in two years. And he's on a new team but wasn't allowed to 'be' with the team and get in sync with his new players. They're called 'reasons' because many of us anticipated this type of start for Watson. Of course, those who think that someone can be plopped into this type of situation and come out of the box with 125 passer rating....well, I got nothin' for ya.
This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms.
This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms.
Last game, I saw little or none of that this game. I hope when he starts lighting it up we'll get the same number of posts about his performance.
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Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun.
Jesus.
Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
This is the 230 millipn dollar man, here. The michael jordan of football, throwing darts at the worms.
Last game, I saw little or none of that this game. I hope when he starts lighting it up we'll get the same number of posts about his performance.
Last game, I saw little or none of that this game. I hope when he starts lighting it up we'll get the same number of posts about his performance.
It is what it is. A lot of people on here are never going to root for Watson, mostly because of his off-field stuff (completely understandable) and in some respect because of the love Baker Mayfield gets from others (baffling).
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Don't blame your dead father for your idiot takes on virtually every subject under the sun.
Jesus.
Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...
Fuck you ASSHOLE!... I don't know why have such a hard on for me... You must be a twink faggot!... Now go to hell!!!... And Rot!...
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Only a fag would call himself "Dutch Oven"... You're fag... bye!
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GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray was carted off the field with a noncontact knee injury less than 90 seconds into Monday night's game against the New England Patriots.
He is scheduled to undergo further testing on Tuesday, including an MRI, but a source told ESPN there is "little doubt that it's torn," referring to the quarterback's ACL.
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I know what you are saying - but his suspension was only about 330 days, and the rest, he did to himself. He is responsible for his own troubles. Plenty of time to work on his mechanics on his own.
He may start being a terrific qb next year...or not. Still a sad situation.
You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers. Kind of hard to do on your own.,
You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers. Kind of hard to do on your own.,
Voice of reason - well said! Think back to week 1 when a lot of fans couldn't wait to assure us Brissett was unacceptable; and all we needed to do was start Dobbs. They was wrong!
Right now, the guy in charge of our Offense (Stefanski) is doing what he did to Kirk Cousins. Minnesota fans quickly became critics of the Cousins' contract. If memory serves me right, their best WR Stephon Diggs wanted out of that offense. Some of that was the design of the pass routes and lack of knowledge covered up by the ole "this is a TE friendly offense." Yeah, they really made a star out of former 1st round pick Kyle Rudolph (from ND) there. Translating that to Cleveland - Austin Hooper was a disappointment while Harrison Bryant hasn't developed into the guy we hoped he would become as a former Mackey Award winner in college. Both Cousins and Diggs are much happier today without Stefanski's handcuffs on their talent. I'm not seeing many receivers or TEs blossom here.
It feels like we've become that Minnesota fan base, only with a much worse track record on finding the right QB and giving them the successful environment to succeed in. Minnesota differs because guys like Rich Gannon, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson and even Randall Cunningham (who put up the best passing numbers and QB rating of his career) played extremely well in the WCO there. A well proven system vrs trial and error. A lot of anger, frustration and hostility with only the QB receiving it all. At 1 point, the commentators showed a replay of Browns' Receivers downfield just standing there next to the DBs in lieu of adjusting the route to the situation. Most of the opponents left on our schedule will be able to stop Chubb on 3rd and long.
I keep telling people we're at the mercy of a horrible owner listening to FO guys making another Poseiden Adventure on Lake Erie out of this football franchise. The 1st thing I'd do if I was the owner (Heaven Help us!) is tell Stefanski you weren't hired or paid to just be the OC. I would make the Head Coach of this mess micro-manage the shit out of this Special Teams nightmare (also counting currently another another Coordinator from Zimmer's chicken shit football program in Minnesota). Our Defense just forced them to punt from their own 5 yard line and they rough the kicker without anyone even close to blocking that punt.
Younger players are not getting developed in this football program. Don't let the media circus about Watson blind you to all this. If you want to see great QB development and the perfect environment to get that done look at Philly. Look what they added on their perimeter. Does anyone need to learn HOW TO FUCKING CATCH a football there? Not to worry though, fans are going to think the QB (the symptom) is the only problem. They always do like the T-Shirt full of names of QBs that failed reminds us here. That T-shirt is just as much (or more) of a reflection on the shit at the top of this franchise. They sentence us to the Head Coaches and QBs this fan base is well trained to hate. With every firing follows a hiring that ends up with the same exact result. The Browns have gone nowhere since 1999 because the people at the top of this organization. Our current FO thinks IDL aren't important - do you think they even noticed DJ Reader totally dominating the Browns' Offense/front? That guy ate this offense like Pez...
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You have to work with your line, your backs and your receivers. Kind of hard to do on your own.,
Voice of reason - well said! Think back to week 1 when a lot of fans couldn't wait to assure us Brissett was unacceptable; and all we needed to do was start Dobbs. They was wrong!
Right now, the guy in charge of our Offense (Stefanski) is doing what he did to Kirk Cousins. Minnesota fans quickly became critics of the Cousins' contract. If memory serves me right, their best WR Stephon Diggs wanted out of that offense. Some of that was the design of the pass routes and lack of knowledge covered up by the ole "this is a TE friendly offense." Yeah, they really made a star out of former 1st round pick Kyle Rudolph (from ND) there. Translating that to Cleveland - Austin Hooper was a disappointment while Harrison Bryant hasn't developed into the guy we hoped he would become as a former Mackey Award winner in college. Both Cousins and Diggs are much happier today without Stefanski's handcuffs on their talent. I'm not seeing many receivers or TEs blossom here.
It feels like we've become that Minnesota fan base, only with a much worse track record on finding the right QB and giving them the successful environment to succeed in. Minnesota differs because guys like Rich Gannon, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson and even Randall Cunningham (who put up the best passing numbers and QB rating of his career) played extremely well in the WCO there. A well proven system vrs trial and error. A lot of anger, frustration and hostility with only the QB receiving it all. At 1 point, the commentators showed a replay of Browns' Receivers downfield just standing there next to the DBs in lieu of adjusting the route to the situation. Most of the opponents left on our schedule will be able to stop Chubb on 3rd and long.
I keep telling people we're at the mercy of a horrible owner listening to FO guys making another Poseiden Adventure on Lake Erie out of this football franchise. The 1st thing I'd do if I was the owner (Heaven Help us!) is tell Stefanski you weren't hired or paid to just be the OC. I would make the Head Coach of this mess micro-manage the shit out of this Special Teams nightmare (also counting currently another another Coordinator from Zimmer's chicken shit football program in Minnesota). Our Defense just forced them to punt from their own 5 yard line and they rough the kicker without anyone even close to blocking that punt.
Younger players are not getting developed in this football program. Don't let the media circus about Watson blind you to all this. If you want to see great QB development and the perfect environment to get that done look at Philly. Look what they added on their perimeter. Does anyone need to learn HOW TO FUCKING CATCH a football there? Not to worry though, fans are going to think the QB (the symptom) is the only problem. They always do like the T-Shirt full of names of QBs that failed reminds us here. That T-shirt is just as much (or more) of a reflection on the shit at the top of this franchise. They sentence us to the Head Coaches and QBs this fan base is well trained to hate. With every firing follows a hiring that ends up with the same exact result. The Browns have gone nowhere since 1999 because the people at the top of this organization. Our current FO thinks IDL aren't important - do you think they even noticed DJ Reader totally dominating the Browns' Offense/front? That guy ate this offense like Pez...
Voice of reason - well said! Think back to week 1 when a lot of fans couldn't wait to assure us Brissett was unacceptable; and all we needed to do was start Dobbs. They was wrong!
Right now, the guy in charge of our Offense (Stefanski) is doing what he did to Kirk Cousins. Minnesota fans quickly became critics of the Cousins' contract. If memory serves me right, their best WR Stephon Diggs wanted out of that offense. Some of that was the design of the pass routes and lack of knowledge covered up by the ole "this is a TE friendly offense." Yeah, they really made a star out of former 1st round pick Kyle Rudolph (from ND) there. Translating that to Cleveland - Austin Hooper was a disappointment while Harrison Bryant hasn't developed into the guy we hoped he would become as a former Mackey Award winner in college. Both Cousins and Diggs are much happier today without Stefanski's handcuffs on their talent. I'm not seeing many receivers or TEs blossom here.
It feels like we've become that Minnesota fan base, only with a much worse track record on finding the right QB and giving them the successful environment to succeed in. Minnesota differs because guys like Rich Gannon, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson and even Randall Cunningham (who put up the best passing numbers and QB rating of his career) played extremely well in the WCO there. A well proven system vrs trial and error. A lot of anger, frustration and hostility with only the QB receiving it all. At 1 point, the commentators showed a replay of Browns' Receivers downfield just standing there next to the DBs in lieu of adjusting the route to the situation. Most of the opponents left on our schedule will be able to stop Chubb on 3rd and long.
I keep telling people we're at the mercy of a horrible owner listening to FO guys making another Poseiden Adventure on Lake Erie out of this football franchise. The 1st thing I'd do if I was the owner (Heaven Help us!) is tell Stefanski you weren't hired or paid to just be the OC. I would make the Head Coach of this mess micro-manage the shit out of this Special Teams nightmare (also counting currently another another Coordinator from Zimmer's chicken shit football program in Minnesota). Our Defense just forced them to punt from their own yard line and they rough the kicker without anyone even close to blocking that punt.
Younger players are not getting developed in this football program. Don't let the media circus about Watson blind you to all this. If you want to see great QB development and the perfect environment to get that done look at Philly. Look what they added on their perimeter. Does anyone need to learn HOW TO FUCKING CATCH a football there? Not to worry though, fans are going to think the QB (the symptom) is the only problem. They always do like the T-Shirt full of names of QBs that failed here. That T-shirt is just as much (or more) of a reflection on the shit at the top of this franchise. The sentence this to the Head Coaches and QBs this fan base is well trained to hate. With every firing follows a hiring that ends up with the same exact result. The Browns have gone nowhere since 1999 because the people at the top of this organization.
Which gets to a question I have.. We have arguably the best running attack since the days of Mack and Byner and if you want to take that further.. Chubb is the best back we've had since Jimmy Brown...We have Watson who is said to be a top 5 QB in all the NFL landscape currently.. My question is are we gonna become a pass happy team to appease Watson , or.. Will we remain a run first first team with Chubb and Hunt presumably.. The record has shown that Kevvy neutered Cousin and under his tutiledge..... Cousins was never going to reach full potential under Shitpantski... And we are seeing evidence of this in Minny... What makes anyone think DW will reach his potential under Shitpantski at this point? I personally think Kevvy neuters this team... And if Kevvy remains... What makes anyone think DW wants to stay here?... I get the need for a franchise QB... But we have seen under optimal conditions we can win with Brissett,, If only we had a stalwart defense like B'more and Pittsburgh historically puts together. I mean Trent Dilfer and Joe Flacco weren't anything special. Yet they won championships... We've seen theres more than one road to Mecca.. But Kevvy just instills chest hair ripping annoyance and aggravation at this juncture....
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Dude,
Wtf is wrong with you? This game draws that much hate from you? You need to find a woman,.or get drunk. Lighten up.
I put him on ignore where he belongs... He continues to act like a 12 year old.. So... I will treat him like a 12 year old... I have uniggied him 2x's thus far and he never fails to resort to acting like Little Lord Fauntleroy. He thinks hes God's gift to football knowledge... I can't fathom why he has such a hard on for me... I don't mind being wrong and someone saying Hey dude, No... It's like this.. IIt's not a crime , but he treats people like they're some kind of asshole.... It's plainly obvious he has an incurable case of Dunning Kruger Effect. And he has an insane amount of insecurities...
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Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Joe Frazier was largely responsible for getting Ali back into the ring, helping him financially as well. Then Ali calls the guy a gorilla and an uncle Tom. Ali got his ass kicked twice by Frazier but in II, via loosened ropes, a larger ring than specified, and a ref who warned Ali about holding 200 times but never took a point, he got a fix decision.
If Frazier flattened him, Marciano would have buried him. Fuck Ali.
The quote at issue is “Ali purposely avoided Marciano”. You know in fact that statement is impossible and total nonsense.
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