Tell me again why Browns Stadium shouldn't have roof
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Question : how many true home bad weather games do the Cleveland BROWNS have every year ? Or decade ?
The answer(s) might suprise you. There are sites that show the kickoff time weather for every BROWNS or any NFL team.
It's the somewhat rare bad weather "blizzard games" that get the attention.
So to look at all sides why build a dome/retractable stadium in the first place ? My answer is economical development through a multi use (but football NFL and college primary) advantage. For example you will never get a northern city SUPER BOWL without one. Plus the 1,001 other uses it affords.
And the hotels, motels, restaurants etc don't want to hear bad weather gameday. Northern is still a tough sell, people want to vacation in Jan/ Feb in warm weather.
So good idea - yes. Perfect answer - maybe. I'd love to see it -but- I'm not paying for it.
For example you will never get a northern city SUPER BOWL without one.
I think you’re forgetting about the SB being hosted in the Meadowlands in 2014.
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I think you’re forgetting about the SB being hosted in the Meadowlands in 2014.
Correct. But, that was New York. Cleveland is not NY. And neither is Buffalo.
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I think you’re forgetting about the SB being hosted in the Meadowlands in 2014.
Correct. But, that was New York. Cleveland is not NY. And neither is Buffalo.
Correct. But, that was New York. Cleveland is not NY. And neither is Buffalo.
So the cold weather dilemma doesn’t effect NY teams?
Interesting ?
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So the cold weather dilemma doesn’t effect NY teams?
Interesting ?
No, the NFL decided that having a Super Bowl in the greater NYC area was worth the potential bad weather.
Something they've never done anywhere else in the North.
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The Bears will be announcing their new stadium plans around the Super Bowl. They will be moving to the suburbs, like Los Angeles, on the site of an old racetrack. It will be a permanent domed stadium.
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So the cold weather dilemma doesn’t effect NY teams?
Interesting ?
No, the NFL decided that having a Super Bowl in the greater NYC area was worth the potential bad weather.
Something they've never done anywhere else in the North.
No, the NFL decided that having a Super Bowl in the greater NYC area was worth the potential bad weather.
Something they've never done anywhere else in the North.
I know it was a rhetorical question.
I was merely highlighting the fact that the NFL will bend their unwritten rules for the New Yorkers.
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wasn't ohio state gonna play a outdoor hockey game some time soon
Indeed. The NHL just played an outdoor game at Fenway. I'd hardly say 1 game a year is a good argument.
They are played for nostalgic reasons. No team is going to take their entire season outdoors.
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Indeed. The NHL just played an outdoor game at Fenway. I'd hardly say 1 game a year is a good argument.
They are played for nostalgic reasons. No team is going to take their entire season outdoors.
it was kinda like a side note I was just wondering if they had played that game yet, not saying they should play hockey outdoors year round
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Indeed. The NHL just played an outdoor game at Fenway. I'd hardly say 1 game a year is a good argument.
They are played for nostalgic reasons. No team is going to take their entire season outdoors.
it was kinda like a side note I was just wondering if they had played that game yet, not saying they should play hockey outdoors year round
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Indeed. The NHL just played an outdoor game at Fenway. I'd hardly say 1 game a year is a good argument.
They are played for nostalgic reasons. No team is going to take their entire season outdoors.
it was kinda like a side note I was just wondering if they had played that game yet, not saying they should play hockey outdoors year round
it was kinda like a side note I was just wondering if they had played that game yet, not saying they should play hockey outdoors year round
Good deal.
I think the game is in February. As a season ticket holder i keep getting info about being able to buy tickets for the game. I don't pay any real attention. I like Hockey and usually drive the 100 miles or so to Nashville to catch a couple of matches a year, but I won't drive 600 miles to go watch OSU/Mich play outside in Feb.
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it was kinda like a side note I was just wondering if they had played that game yet, not saying they should play hockey outdoors year round
Good deal.
I think the game is in February. As a season ticket holder i keep getting info about being able to buy tickets for the game. I don't pay any real attention. I like Hockey and usually drive the 100 miles or so to Nashville to catch a couple of matches a year, but I won't drive 600 miles to go watch OSU/Mich play outside in Feb.
Good deal.
I think the game is in February. As a season ticket holder i keep getting info about being able to buy tickets for the game. I don't pay any real attention. I like Hockey and usually drive the 100 miles or so to Nashville to catch a couple of matches a year, but I won't drive 600 miles to go watch OSU/Mich play outside in Feb.
Saturday February 18, 2023 - 4 pm.
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So the cold weather dilemma doesn’t effect NY teams?
Interesting ?
Market size$$$$$$$$$$$/
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Don't know why if the technology is available, why any football franchise would want a strictly "open field" stadium. They should all have retractable roofs or just have a dome if the stadium is in an area where harsh weather is the norm. Playing in conditions like they did in the Browns/Saints game is just idiotic. This isn't the 50's anymore.
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So the cold weather dilemma doesn’t effect NY teams?
Interesting ?
Market size$$$$$$$$$$$/
Market size$$$$$$$$$$$/
I agree, it’s not about the weather.
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Because theyre not good enough to justify the cost.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
At this stage in life, I seek the desert and loathe the winter. However, if I had the chance to see the Browns in the AFC championship game by way of 50 yard line seats, I would attend if the game was played on the frigid, snowy lakefront, but honestly would refuse if it was in a dome.
Cleveland football is played on the lakefront. If a new stadium is built elsewhere, for me it will be another piece of America gone to hell.
Thats one way to look at it I guess. I think there's a half dozen or more sites in the large, spread out, city of Cleveland that would be a better site than where the stadium currently is both for accessibility and for weather but, again, the team is not good enough to justify the cost. If they made the playoffs three seasons in a row they'd be in a better position to go begging for public handouts.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
At this stage in life, I seek the desert and loathe the winter. However, if I had the chance to see the Browns in the AFC championship game by way of 50 yard line seats, I would attend if the game was played on the frigid, snowy lakefront, but honestly would refuse if it was in a dome.
Cleveland football is played on the lakefront. If a new stadium is built elsewhere, for me it will be another piece of America gone to hell.
Thats one way to look at it I guess. I think there's a half dozen or more sites in the large, spread out, city of Cleveland that would be a better site than where the stadium currently is both for accessibility and for weather but, again, the team is not good enough to justify the cost. If they made the playoffs three seasons in a row they'd be in a better position to go begging for public handouts.
Thats one way to look at it I guess. I think there's a half dozen or more sites in the large, spread out, city of Cleveland that would be a better site than where the stadium currently is both for accessibility and for weather but, again, the team is not good enough to justify the cost. If they made the playoffs three seasons in a row they'd be in a better position to go begging for public handouts.
I've said it before, I fear another move. Funding is a true potential problem, and one other thing is the continued losing is killing a fan base. If you're under 30/35. years old you've seen nothing but sadness, except a season or 3.
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Thats one way to look at it I guess. I think there's a half dozen or more sites in the large, spread out, city of Cleveland that would be a better site than where the stadium currently is both for accessibility and for weather but, again, the team is not good enough to justify the cost. If they made the playoffs three seasons in a row they'd be in a better position to go begging for public handouts.
I've said it before, I fear another move. Funding is a true potential problem, and one other thing is the continued losing is killing a fan base. If you're under 30/35. years old you've seen nothing but sadness, except a season or 3.
I've said it before, I fear another move. Funding is a true potential problem, and one other thing is the continued losing is killing a fan base. If you're under 30/35. years old you've seen nothing but sadness, except a season or 3.
Where would they move? Who would want them there? Unless they plan on opening up an entirely new market like iowa or maine or nebraska i just dont see a lot of landing spots.
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