~ AND ~ ? • WEEK 18 non-Cleveland BROWNS Football.​​​​​​​ ? Sat KC @ LV & TEN @ JAX & Sun. Others •

[Bob806]

@tiamat63 said:

I'm a sucker for all things Ohio, so I'll roll with Joey Buckets in Cincy. 

Lol...too much divisional rival hate for me to jump on board. Plus, Bob Trumpy & Boomer Esiason's bias cemented the BenGals as enemy 1c forever.

[mjp28]

@syd said:

how did you get those odd's ? im at LV +8.5 and the ou is at 52  WTF 

Yes different places, in the original post are copy & paste from our pickem,  there are different betting lines all over ...... different but close.  I always start with my old vegasinsider.com  and go from there.

[syd]

@mjp28 said:

Yes different places, in the original post are copy & paste from our pickem,  there are different betting lines all over ...... different but close.  I always start with my old vegasinsider.com  and go from there.

i will never take your betting advice again 

[mjp28]

@syd said:

i will never take your betting advice again 

Yeah nice to get snookered 0-2 right out of the box. 

[tiamat63]

@mjp28 said:

 JAX (-6.5) and OVER 39.5    " just for the fun of it".          Yeah I'm a PRIMETIME over sucker.

You're a mad man.   I'm usually a primetime over as well, but not when the Jags are going against a Vrabel defense and the Titans are on a backup QB.   

Play to the room, my dude.

[syd]

@mjp28 said:

Yeah nice to get snookered 0-2 right out of the box. 

love ya man But i will never take your betting on a game ,,,,well till next time ,,,(lol),,,,,,,,,,happy New Year ,,,,,,,,,,,and hope you have alot more of em

[mjp28]

@syd said:

love ya man But i will never take your betting on a game ,,,,well till next time ,,,(lol),,,,,,,,,,happy New Year ,,,,,,,,,,,and hope you have alot more of em

I did pretty good as usual in college and even had a good start in the NFL  ..... have to get whatever MOJO back !   Not much time left.

[calfoxwc]

How hilarious the Chiefs were - they danced around in a circle in a huddle, then they run to the los and run a play.

LOL.

That is having FUN playing the game.

[mjp28]

TEN 10 - 7.   2nd quarter,    hmmmm.

[mjp28]

@mjp28 said:

TEN 10 - 7.   2nd quarter,    hmmmm.

I had some really good advice on KC but ignored it ..... mistake.      

..... edit add,   DAL, PHI and SF all B-I-G.    

[mjp28]

@mjp28 said:

TEN 10 - 7.   2nd quarter,    hmmmm.

TEN 16 - 13, with 9 minutes left .... I've been surfing this game.

JAX 20 -16 with 2+ minutes left.

[SdBacker80]

Bringing Pressure.  See there it works

[mjp28]

@mjp28 said:

TEN 16 - 13, with 9 minutes left .... I've been surfing this game.

JAX 20 -16 with 2+ minutes left.

JAX 20. TEN 16 final.   How about that  .....

[mjp28]

@mjp28 said:

I had some really good advice on KC but ignored it ..... mistake.      

..... edit add,   DAL, PHI and SF all B-I-G.    

Now those 3 I feel good about Sunday.   Well see what happens. 

[gumby73]

@sdbacker80 said:

Bringing Pressure.  See there it works

In your opinion?

a) Was it a fumble?

or

b) It's Josh Dobbs.. and his arm was making a forward motion ?

Titans twitter has blown=up..

(the 2nd, was a fumble that Dobbs caught..clearly) 

[Bob806]

@gumby73 said:

In your opinion?

a) Was it a fumble?

or

b) It's Josh Dobbs.. and his arm was making a forward motion ?

Titans twitter has blown=up..

(the 2nd, was a fumble that Dobbs caught..clearly) 

I didn't think it was a fumble. If that's Brady, Rodgers, the new darling Herbert, it's reversed. 

I feel bad for Vrabel. I wonder if changes are coming to Tennessee, in light of the GM firing.

[gumby73]

@bob806 said:

I didn't think it was a fumble. If that's Brady, Rodgers, the new darling Herbert, it's reversed. 

I feel bad for Vrabel. I wonder if changes are coming to Tennessee, in light of the GM firing.

agree.. the game review call took under a minute..

I would have offered the Titans a 6th round pick, after our Jets game..

1.) This defense needs a player leadership type, such as we saw in Washington's Chase Young on field/sidelines

2. The 6th rounder to Titans  was for Jim Schwartz back to Cleveland as DC  

[Bob806]

@gumby73 said:

agree.. the game review call took under a minute..

I would have offered the Titans a 6th round pick, after our Jets game..

1.) This defense needs a player leadership type, such as we saw in Washington's Chase Young on field/sidelines

2. The 6th rounder to Titans  was for Jim Schwartz back to Cleveland as DC  

Good points here.

Kind of a tangent with me here, but a guy like Clowney could have been that kind of leader, but he chose a different path. In his defense, the dynamic duo dream of he & Garrett never materialized. 

Why? -Scheme? Coaching? Attitude? Low budget interior D line? 

As fans we just scratch our heads. 23 seasons since the return and really only 3 have been good. A few "near .500" seasons recently. It's almost impossible to be this bad in a league that's parity driven through drafts & free agency.

Damn I'm frustrated. Can't give up on 'em, but holy hell this is horrible.

[gumby73]

@bob806 said:

Good points here. SAME

As fans we just scratch our heads. 23 seasons since the return and really only 3 have been good. A few "near .500" seasons recently.

1) It's almost impossible to be this bad in a league that's parity driven through drafts & free agency.

2.) Damn I'm frustrated. Can't give up on 'em, but holy hell this is horrible.

Your on to something that Andrew Berry won't directly answer...

IMHO..

the league drug out D. Watson getting 11 games 

Berry was left, trusting on his youth player development hopes.. Over meaningful player additions into camp..

Once our season record/ met / the trade deadline? ?  was too late(our record)... and cost him a good roster year & maybe meaningful FA's additions

[tiamat63]

@bob806 said:

Attitude? Low budget interior D line? 

In the case of Clowney, it appears to be a large dose of the former and the latter. 

@bob806 said: