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  • OconRecon OconReconO Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by OconRecon
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    Sounds Like We Need A Refresher

    Come guys, it's all ball bearings...

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    • FlugelF Flugel

      Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

      Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

      Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

      Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

      There was another shabby loss not too much later

      Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

      Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

      I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

      I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

      - Tom F.

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      K Kingphisher wrote on last edited by
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      @flugel said:

      Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

      Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

      Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

      Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

      There was another shabby loss not too much later

      Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

      Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

      I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

      I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

      - Tom F.

      Me too, because I am a True Browns Fan. It seems that many people on this board are'nt though.

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      • D Bone D BoneD Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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        Oh great, another thread on how Quinn "doesn't suck as much" as DA. What a great time to be a Browns fan huh? "We would have only lost by 7, not 11, if Quinn was the QB!"

        I wonder if we will ever again argue about how if "home-field advantage throughout the playoffs" is really necessary, or if we can win it all by "just being the #2 seed"? I guess as long as we are arguing that one QB is worse then the other mediocre QB, the answer will be NO.

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          D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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          Quinn has his chance and it will last for more than one game. All of the people who kept saying "Quinn is a real NFL QB" "Quinn is great, Quinn is good" for the last 1.5 years shouldn't have been surprised by this reaction. Isn't this how the board reacted when Anderson played poorly? If the Browns give up on Quinn this year it almost certainly means they are drafting a QB which means it will be longer until we have a good team.

          I am personally so tired of hearing "If Brady was starting we would be ... " But, I realize that a successful Brady means the Browns are getting ready for the playoffs.

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          • FlugelF Flugel

            Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

            Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

            Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

            Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

            There was another shabby loss not too much later

            Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

            Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

            I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

            I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

            - Tom F.

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            LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by Lumbergh
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            @flugel said:

            Last year we started off the season in the following way

            FYI Flugs

            1 TD was by Josh Cribbs

            Another was as Minnesota was loading the bus.

            Feel free to credit Quinnie with 20 pts if you like.

            But we know that was the most inept shitfest the Browns have had since Charlie Frye was under center.

            And don't forget the Viks pass D was ranked 18th last year. Would you like to compare that with the Cowboys, Steelers, or Ravens Ds from last year?

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              Tom, the DA era is over. Using him to mitigate BQ at this point is fruitless.

              Keep your eye on the ball. All that matters is who is behind center and how he plays.

              BQ isn't going to get any love if he plays equal to or marginally better than the last guy.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                @inspecta said:

                But stan, shit, I knew he was an asshole, but I never thought he'd actually root against the starting QB.

                Dude, that's what 80% of this Board has been doing since 2007. There's a different number on the QB's back, but the rhetoric here is the same.

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                  ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                  @inspecta said:

                  But stan, shit, I knew he was an asshole, but I never thought he'd actually root against the starting QB. New lows, even for that guy, and that's saying something....

                  We have a starting QB? Oh you me figuratively speaking ...

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                  • FlugelF Flugel

                    Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

                    Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

                    Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

                    Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

                    There was another shabby loss not too much later

                    Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

                    Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

                    I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

                    I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

                    - Tom F.

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                    ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                    @flugel said:

                    Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

                    Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

                    Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

                    Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

                    There was another shabby loss not too much later

                    Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

                    Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

                    I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

                    I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

                    - Tom F.

                    If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                    Well, Charlie Frye comparisons would work ...

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                      C Captain Cheesedick wrote on last edited by
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                      Yes, I agree.

                      Soldier with a new attitude

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                        O osusev wrote on last edited by
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                        3rd year starter? like he actually played three full seasons... lmao

                        Last year, we had no rushing game, no skill players except for winslow, oline sucked etc

                        the year before when he actually was the starter for the whole year he had skill players and a rushing game.... imagine that

                        the end of the year before they let him play at the end of the season because of bs he was not starting the whole year....

                        The last time I checked this is a team game with tons of support staff on the sideline in multi million dollar organizations....

                        Brady sucked and on his own but the team did not help him either right side of the o line/skill players etc.

                        I like how people know DA is not the answer based on a broken injured team with no skill players last year and the phil dictator and no power RAC show with Chud as the o coordinator..... yes because the guy who showed top end ability during a monday night Giants game and the year before led us to 10 wins saddled with a terrible defense breaking franchise records for most home wins thowing 3700+ yards and 29tds just grows on trees...

                        If the entire team was performing last year and DA sucked I could understand....... The viking defense was what against the pass last year? the steelers and the ravens defenses are comparable how?

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                        • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

                          @flugel said:

                          Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

                          Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

                          Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

                          Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

                          There was another shabby loss not too much later

                          Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

                          Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

                          I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

                          I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

                          - Tom F.

                          If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                          Well, Charlie Frye comparisons would work ...

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                          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                          @atenears said:

                          If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                          Well, Charlie Frye comparisons would work ...

                          I can't imagine Stanley, but we could start with what makes your avatar so damn awesome, or our favorite flavor of EAS shake, or maybe how we just can't wait to get our mouths around our favorite $5 foot-long.

                          Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                            @atenears said:

                            If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                            Well, Charlie Frye comparisons would work ...

                            I can't imagine Stanley, but we could start with what makes your avatar so damn awesome, or our favorite flavor of EAS shake, or maybe how we just can't wait to get our mouths around our favorite $5 foot-long.

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                            O osusev wrote on last edited by
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                            @legacy-fan said:

                            I can't imagine Stanley, but we could start with what makes your avatar so damn awesome, or our favorite flavor of EAS shake, or maybe how we just can't wait to get our mouths around our favorite $5 foot-long.

                            that was funny 😆

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                              I can't imagine Stanley, but we could start with what makes your avatar so damn awesome, or our favorite flavor of EAS shake, or maybe how we just can't wait to get our mouths around our favorite $5 foot-long.

                              that was funny 😆

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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                              @osusev said:

                              that was funny 😆

                              It made me think that $5 is too little to charge for that. 😉

                              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                L lemosley01 wrote on last edited by
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                                I'm concerned about improvement - will we see the team improve (and not just against bad teams).

                                4th quarter play is particularly what I'm interested in - do they play all 4th quarters, or just give up like they did under RAC?

                                I saw some of the 'give up' in the 4th on Sunday from the defense. The offense didn't give up, they just didn't look good once the Vikings started rushing everyone.

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                                  ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                                  @inspecta said:

                                  But stan, shit, I knew he was an asshole, but I never thought he'd actually root against the starting QB. New lows, even for that guy, and that's saying something....

                                  Have a quote to support that Internet Tough guy?

                                  Just because I didn't make cute fuzzy excuses for Sunday's shitty play, doesn't mean I rooted against any player on our team.

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                                    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                                    I think it's kind of silly to keep throwing the Vikes pass defense ranking from LAST YEAR out there like it's the end all be all.

                                    Look, when you rank first against the rush you have a damn good D period, and of course your passer rating is going higher than your run rating.

                                    Just a dumb argument. I was at the game and I saw a very good defense from the Vikes top to bottom. Quinn needs to get better, but let's see what he does against some lesser defenses.

                                    Is a pig's ass pork?
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                                    • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

                                      @flugel said:

                                      Last year we started off the season in the following way and I'm ALL EARS about how much better Dumb Ass was at finding the HOT reads:

                                      Dallas 28 Cleveland 10

                                      Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6

                                      Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10

                                      There was another shabby loss not too much later

                                      Indy 10 Cleveland 6 (1 TD came off DA's fumble so Peyton's odffense only score 3 points - warm & fuzzy?)

                                      Geee, let's piss and moan about being AHEAD at halftime in this opener because the Dumb Ass fans have ticklish G-spots. Seriously folks, DA was in his THIRD consecutive season of starts when he went 3-6. If you're seeing regression in lieu of progress and growth - he's NOT the freakin answer.

                                      I'm sitting here reading a BUNCH of fans that sound like they CANNOT wait to see Quinn fail. When your first round draft pick is a QB - it's pretty freakin important that he does NOT suck or this franchise is FUBAR. That being the case, don't take this SHIT out on those of us that FINALLY want to see what he has in his THIRD year. All Dumb Ass ever had to do with his 27 starts was prove he could learn from his experience. That means growth instead of regression. If DA was Kurt Warner - nobody would give the first crap WHO the other QB is on this team. Since he's not, we're right back to the rationale of WHY we needed to draft a 1st round QB.

                                      I've said all along, it would have been MUCH better to find out if Quinn has it or not back in his 1st and 2nd seasons - rather than getting into season #3 and finding out we need to start all over again in 2010. That being the case, I'm rooting my ass off for Quinn to succeed. Why wouldn't I?

                                      - Tom F.

                                      If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                                      Well, Charlie Frye comparisons would work ...

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                                      D damajuki wrote on last edited by
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                                      @atenears said:

                                      If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                                      How about the starting QB for the Browns?

                                      Oh, wait, that IS what we're talking about, and have been, for the last 2 (5, 10, 15, 20) years.

                                      It is truly unbelievable how Lumberghian things are getting around here when it comes to the QB talk.

                                      Let's remember: we are 1 game into the first full year of starting of our first-round draft pick QB.

                                      To compare him unfavorably to ANY veteran starting QB after ONE GAME is -- well, I can't think of what else to call it -- Lumberghian it its stupidity.

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                                        @atenears said:

                                        If we traded DA, what on earth would Brady Nation be talking about today?

                                        How about the starting QB for the Browns?

                                        Oh, wait, that IS what we're talking about, and have been, for the last 2 (5, 10, 15, 20) years.

                                        It is truly unbelievable how Lumberghian things are getting around here when it comes to the QB talk.

                                        Let's remember: we are 1 game into the first full year of starting of our first-round draft pick QB.

                                        To compare him unfavorably to ANY veteran starting QB after ONE GAME is -- well, I can't think of what else to call it -- Lumberghian it its stupidity.

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                                        LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                                        @damajuki said:

                                        To compare him unfavorably to ANY veteran starting QB after ONE GAME is

                                        yeah one game would be too quick.

                                        FYI Quinn's played FOUR GAMES

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                                          D damajuki wrote on last edited by
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                                          One game this season, genius.

                                          Thanks for the Lumberghian contribution, as always.

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