2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects
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Please don't ask that. He's been my favorite player since he got here. He's a throwback to the type of player that I grew up with. Score a great touchdown, hand the ball to the official. - Please don't do that to me.
I along with every Browns fan alive loves Nick Chubb. I now have brown and the 1946 throwback white Browns jerseys - both with #24.
But I am curious if there is anyone who would subscribe to the sell high/buy low mindset with Chubb?
Plus, it's the end of January, and not much going on with the Browns now ?
But I am curious if there is anyone who would subscribe to the sell high/buy low mindset with Chubb?
Of course that could make sense in today's NFL. Especially for a team with no 1st round pick. But I bet that we can't get the Colts to give us any more 1st round picks for RB's.
I don't think I'm all that smart. Wasn't gifted with as many neuron connections as professors. I do think, however, that I got at least my share of logic. I don't always use it though. And in Chubb's case my heart won't allow me to use it. Chubb embodies almost exactly what you would want in a football player. He's got a great attitude. A Very hard worker. Great teammate. Does not seek out the media. No social media presence. Big, strong, fast, smart. A great and yet humble player. - How do you trade that person? What kind of message does that send? And let's not even factor in the current PR situation with our QB.
I just don't see how you could possibly trade away a 'most probable' future Browns Ring of Fame player while he's still playing at a peak level. No more Paul Warfield stuff...
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But I am curious if there is anyone who would subscribe to the sell high/buy low mindset with Chubb?
Of course that could make sense in today's NFL. Especially for a team with no 1st round pick. But I bet that we can't get the Colts to give us any more 1st round picks for RB's.
I don't think I'm all that smart. Wasn't gifted with as many neuron connections as professors. I do think, however, that I got at least my share of logic. I don't always use it though. And in Chubb's case my heart won't allow me to use it. Chubb embodies almost exactly what you would want in a football player. He's got a great attitude. A Very hard worker. Great teammate. Does not seek out the media. No social media presence. Big, strong, fast, smart. A great and yet humble player. - How do you trade that person? What kind of message does that send? And let's not even factor in the current PR situation with our QB.
I just don't see how you could possibly trade away a 'most probable' future Browns Ring of Fame player while he's still playing at a peak level. No more Paul Warfield stuff...
Of course that could make sense in today's NFL. Especially for a team with no 1st round pick. But I bet that we can't get the Colts to give us any more 1st round picks for RB's.
I don't think I'm all that smart. Wasn't gifted with as many neuron connections as professors. I do think, however, that I got at least my share of logic. I don't always use it though. And in Chubb's case my heart won't allow me to use it. Chubb embodies almost exactly what you would want in a football player. He's got a great attitude. A Very hard worker. Great teammate. Does not seek out the media. No social media presence. Big, strong, fast, smart. A great and yet humble player. - How do you trade that person? What kind of message does that send? And let's not even factor in the current PR situation with our QB.
I just don't see how you could possibly trade away a 'most probable' future Browns Ring of Fame player while he's still playing at a peak level. No more Paul Warfield stuff...
There ain't enough gold and riches in the Universe to make me trade away Chubb.. We would NEVER get equal value in return... This guy has HOF written all over him... The guy I would peddle is the CANCER known as "Mild" Garrett... He's a distraction to the team and bad juju in the locker room... Not only that... Garrett is S O F T!!!
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I don't see us keeping many TE's moving forward. I see it a rare occasion we will ever play two of them at the same time.
I understand how DePodesta isn't interested in four yard runs and wants 13 yard passes..........but he picked Stef. He's the one that wanted Stef the year earlier but Dorsey went with the Bill-Hilly. And that was what Stef was known for....his two TE stretch blocking offense. I actually expect a TE to be drafted with one of our latter picks. I don't think they're flabbergasted with Bryant. I know that I'm not...being a Mackie winner
I understand how DePodesta isn't interested in four yard runs and wants 13 yard passes..........but he picked Stef. He's the one that wanted Stef the year earlier but Dorsey went with the Bill-Hilly. And that was what Stef was known for....his two TE stretch blocking offense. I actually expect a TE to be drafted with one of our latter picks. I don't think they're flabbergasted with Bryant. I know that I'm not...being a Mackie winner
I am not saying TE won't be used. I am simply saying that we spent a big bag on watson, and the O needs to morph to what Watson does best, and that isn't playing in a bunched up offense. We will spread the field. We aren't going to play with 7 players playing shoulder to shoulder on the LOS....at least we better not if we want to tap in to Watsons talents.
That is why I think that Chubb might not be the best type of back for the type of O we will start to play.
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I'm going to throw something out there...
Nick Chubb just completed his fifth NFL season, and will be 28 years old next season.
What would a team have to offer the Browns for you to trade him?
I'm going to throw something out there...
Nick Chubb just completed his fifth NFL season, and will be 28 years old next season.
What would a team have to offer the Browns for you to trade him?
1st and a 2nd. Maybe a 3rd depending on how high it is in the round.
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I'm going to throw something out there...
Nick Chubb just completed his fifth NFL season, and will be 28 years old next season.
What would a team have to offer the Browns for you to trade him?
I'm going to throw something out there...
Nick Chubb just completed his fifth NFL season, and will be 28 years old next season.
What would a team have to offer the Browns for you to trade him?
In reality: Never. He is my favorite player by some margin. I've often thought this season: Chubb deserves better than the Browns.
For sake of discussion and playing football trade games without buying a Madden game:
Chubb and Willis to Tampa for Tristan Wirfs and Vita Vea. Maybe some addition and/ or exchange of picks to make it happen (although it would never happen in reality).Wirfs because I was very high on him before the 2020 draft, and we could have had him. In stead, we got seemingly unmotivated lazybones Willis, who often seems to give up on blocking while the play is still going on. Vea because he is a highly rated IDL, which would help towards fixing our greatest weakness.
While I am fairly high on Ford, I don't think he is ready to start yet, and D'Ernest is back-up caliber. So in this scenario, we would need to use one of our picks on a RB who could start, or sign a free agent. We could even re-sign Hunt and give him the #1 position he desires.
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I now have brown and the 1946 throwback white Browns jerseys - both with #24.
Nice. No name on the back?
Nice. No name on the back?
It's not THAT much of a throwback, it does have his name on the back. Doing a bachelor party weekend up in Erie during the Super Bowl Weekend, will be busting out this beauty for Sunday.
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Nick Chubb just completed his fifth NFL season, and will be 28 years old next season.
What would a team have to offer the Browns for you to trade him?
Please don't ask that. He's been my favorite player since he got here. He's a throwback to the type of player that I grew up with. Score a great touchdown, hand the ball to the official. - Please don't do that to me.
Please don't ask that. He's been my favorite player since he got here. He's a throwback to the type of player that I grew up with. Score a great touchdown, hand the ball to the official. - Please don't do that to me.
you mean like this guy he either drops the ball or hands it to the ref oh if you do watch he is a two way player qb fb lb and has a 6th or 7th round draft status
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Please don't ask that. He's been my favorite player since he got here. He's a throwback to the type of player that I grew up with. Score a great touchdown, hand the ball to the official. - Please don't do that to me.
you mean like this guy he either drops the ball or hands it to the ref oh if you do watch he is a two way player qb fb lb and has a 6th or 7th round draft status
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It would be nice to have one big target, but that Penn State kid is a play-making machine, and while shorter than preferred, built like a RB.
Precisely! Good idea Dutch! I'd like to see a change of direction guy in receiving corps (and in the FO). As for the BIG target with speed, the 6'4" David Njoku is supposed to give us this. When we use 2 TEs Harrison Bryant is a 6'5" target.
I see a lot of routes in Stefanski's offense (passing tree) that are straight ahead fly routes and go routes that we use with our outside Receivers in formation. They're fine when the passes are accurate and/or our receivers are getting separation. Having said that, when we're running them wide/down the sidelines - that's what any decent corners want us to do. They'll get the inside leverage and the sidelines remove any threat outside; so there's no room for error from the passer.
Post routes, corner routes or flag routes all start off straight ahead and then slant off toward the goal post, sideline or pylon. None of these routes are a drastic change of direction that are going to worry DBs. The shorter version of a post route is a quick slant route from where the Receiver lines up outside immediately angling toward the middle of the field (skipping a lot of the straight ahead stuff prior to the slant used in the deeper post routes),
Dig routes are what us older fellers used to call square ins. These are your drastic change of direction routes where a guy with ideal football hips like Jerry Rice got a lot more separation than the 40 yard dash times projected from him. Former Syracuse and Indy Colts star Marvin Harrison was as good as it gets with this asset. He has a chip off the ole block that's very fun to watch playing for Ohio State. Only the younger version is 6'4" tall weighing in at 205 pounds vrs his father that was 6'0" and 185 pounds. The scary thing about MH Jr is he does everything his dad did extremely well; only he's bigger, faster and stronger than his dad was. You want to know how scary that is? Ask any guy that played in Georgia's secondary; because they were losing without solutions for him before he left the game with an unpenalized head injury. Georgia could have scored 4 more TDs against TCU; and it still wouldn't remove their feeling that Ohio State had them in check mate when he was in the game.
People are going to say WR isn't a need but adding something we don't currently have in that position group seems like a big need. I'm talking an ideal change of direction guy that can run any route and put points on the board. Even better, we can address it in the 3rd round. If they do this - please go after a guy that can catch the ball instead of fooling ourselves that we can coach the dropsies right out of someone with that frequent tendency. I'd prefer a guy with a frame that doesn't limit him to being an undersized/underweight slot receiver. I was never a big fan of Dennis Northcutt in the passing game even though I liked the excitement he added as a punt/kick return man. PSU's Parker Washington may only be 5'10" but he's a compact 212 lbs. He's like a Mark Clayton or Mark Duper with about 25 more lbs of muscle so that should remove a lot of concerns about press coverage or confining him exclusively to a slot/flanker role.
As you can see, I still need to familiarize myself with the draft prospects and this thread will be a great help.
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Maybe a luxury pick depending on what we do…but Keaton Mitchell RB ECU looks like he would be a perfect Nick Chubb compliment.
Lots of Good speed and elite lateral movement. Looks like a patience runner too with good hands.
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This is what is going to determine what the 2023 Cleveland BROWNS are going to look like (subject to trades and trade ups :
First Round (0)
Second Round (1) - Pick #43
Third Round (1) - Compensatory pick between picks 97 and 102
Fourth Round (2) - Pick #111 Pick #131 - From Minnesota
Fifth Round (2) - Pick #141 - From Los Angeles Rams, Pick #143
Sixth Round (1) - Pick #189
Seventh Round (1) - Pick #231
This is what is going to determine what the 2023 Cleveland BROWNS are going to look like (subject to trades and trade ups :
Fourth Round (2) - Pick #111 Pick #131 - From Minnesota
Pick #111 - Is that all we get from Minnesota after taking Stefanski and Priefer off their hands?
Can you imagine if the guy in the video below was a Browns fan?
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Here's hoping Jerron Cage falls to us sometime on day3. I think he's everything Togiai has proven not to be.
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Here's hoping Jerron Cage falls to us sometime on day3. I think he's everything Togiai has proven not to be.
Here's hoping Jerron Cage falls to us sometime on day3. I think he's everything Togiai has proven not to be.
He is about the 70th best DT ranked. Being as such, he should probably be available as a free agent. What do you know about the guy that makes you think he will be any good?
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You asked me about Benton from Wisconsin. Some quick thoughts.
- I don't believe he has the natural size+ quickness to be a 2 gap nose. Which I'm perfectly fine with.
- His 1 on 1 reps in the senior bowl really helped to demonstrate his ability to use violent and quick hands.
- His lateral pursuit and conditioning needs some work. That's where I ultimately come back around to believing it would be better for him to stay around 305lbs-ish, help grow that first step burst he briefly flashes (ed)
- Sometimes he losses his base and gets ahead of his pads, so footwork is going to need some attention. But that's where I also come back around to mentioning not liking him as a 2 gap nose, where I found most of that issue. Playing the shade is where I saw him shine.
- Still needs to concentrate on hand use to prevent reach blocks while using his quickness to power to drive blockers on zone steps both laterally and horizontally to disrupt and force early cuts.
I see potential. Not like... top 15 potential. Probably not even 1st round. But day 2? Yeah
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Walter has Browns taking Lukas Van Ness with our all-important second round pick.
Not sure what to think.. unless we can conduct remedial NFL summer school for him and Alex Wright - and might as well add Winfrey.
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If the Browns are looking at anybody from Iowa, it had better be Jack Campbell. This team needs help at LB as well and he showed out quite well against the Buckeyes from my memory.
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I wish we'd have gotten to see that Isaiah Weston kid this year. 6'4. But since we didn't, we've got to proceed like we need a big WR. But of course, we need a FAST receiver because our group was ranked near the bottom of the league in speed. So, we need a big, strong, fast, surehanded wr....among our mid to late round picks that we have available.
If I can, I like to watch the WR's run the gauntlet. (3/4/23 1:00pm)
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I wish we'd have gotten to see that Isaiah Weston kid this year. 6'4. But since we didn't, we've got to proceed like we need a big WR. But of course, we need a FAST receiver because our group was ranked near the bottom of the league in speed. So, we need a big, strong, fast, surehanded wr....among our mid to late round picks that we have available.
If I can, I like to watch the WR's run the gauntlet. (3/4/23 1:00pm)
I wish we'd have gotten to see that Isaiah Weston kid this year. 6'4. But since we didn't, we've got to proceed like we need a big WR. But of course, we need a FAST receiver because our group was ranked near the bottom of the league in speed. So, we need a big, strong, fast, surehanded wr....among our mid to late round picks that we have available.
If I can, I like to watch the WR's run the gauntlet. (3/4/23 1:00pm)
Who doesn't need fast, big, and surehanded?
My guess is we will be better off looking for that quick, surehanded receiver in those rounds.
Heck man, at this point it is hard to say. My guess is we do our best in free agency to fill a few holes as best we can, and in the draft we go for the best player on the board, no matter the position with a few exceptions.
With no 1st rounder this year and next, it is going to be pretty important to draft the best players we can and hope 3-4 of them become solid players or we are going to find ourselves in a talent void in a few years.
We may not need the player this year and it becomes a head scratcher, but we may need them in 2-3-4 years.
What we need to hope for is a player like Woods or Bell find their groove and start to shine this year.
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I wish we'd have gotten to see that Isaiah Weston kid this year. 6'4. But since we didn't, we've got to proceed like we need a big WR. But of course, we need a FAST receiver because our group was ranked near the bottom of the league in speed. So, we need a big, strong, fast, surehanded wr....among our mid to late round picks that we have available.
If I can, I like to watch the WR's run the gauntlet. (3/4/23 1:00pm)
Who doesn't need fast, big, and surehanded?
My guess is we will be better off looking for that quick, surehanded receiver in those rounds.
Heck man, at this point it is hard to say. My guess is we do our best in free agency to fill a few holes as best we can, and in the draft we go for the best player on the board, no matter the position with a few exceptions.
With no 1st rounder this year and next, it is going to be pretty important to draft the best players we can and hope 3-4 of them become solid players or we are going to find ourselves in a talent void in a few years.
We may not need the player this year and it becomes a head scratcher, but we may need them in 2-3-4 years.
What we need to hope for is a player like Woods or Bell find their groove and start to shine this year.
Who doesn't need fast, big, and surehanded?
Right?
Shouldn't be hard to find in the mid to late rounds
I mean, we pick 43rd. And we have defensive needs. What round will we have the luxury of picking a WR in? We've gotta get some stuff done in FA.
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