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  • sydS syd

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Shut the fuck up, Syd. No one cares if you don't want a dome. 

    well i care why are you trying to hurt my feelings ?

    @syd said:

    well i care why are you trying to hurt my feelings ?

    Because you're too soft just like the Browns.

  • @syd said:

    well i care why are you trying to hurt my feelings ?

    Because you're too soft just like the Browns.

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Because you're too soft

    is that what your boyfriend said ?

  • @syd said:

    well i care why are you trying to hurt my feelings ?

    Because you're too soft just like the Browns.

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Because you're too soft just like the Browns.

    hey can you hold on for a minute or 2 as i have to take a piss so i can belittle you properly because my last post well eeehhh could have been better

  • @syd said:

    vette i have allways liked you But fuck a dome

    Shut the fuck up, Syd. No one cares if you don't want a dome. 

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Shut the fuck up

    i have always liked that comment coming my way it warms my scrotum 

  • sydS syd

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Shut the fuck up

    i have always liked that comment coming my way it warms my scrotum 

    @syd said:

    i have always liked that comment coming my way it warms my scrotum 

    You are one sick fuck. 

  • sydS syd

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Because you're too soft just like the Browns.

    hey can you hold on for a minute or 2 as i have to take a piss so i can belittle you properly because my last post well eeehhh could have been better

    @syd said:

    hey can you hold on for a minute or 2 as i have to take a piss so i can belittle you properly because my last post well eeehhh could have been better

    This incoherent rant doesn't even make sense. Clearly you are drunk and high on Lawson's chip dip. 

  • sydS syd

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Because you're too soft

    is that what your boyfriend said ?

    @syd said:

    is that what your boyfriend said ?

    Homosexual thoughts creeping in your mind yet again? Just come out of the closet. 

  • oh fuck you make me laugh keep on trying 

  • @syd said:

    hey can you hold on for a minute or 2 as i have to take a piss so i can belittle you properly because my last post well eeehhh could have been better

    This incoherent rant doesn't even make sense. Clearly you are drunk and high on Lawson's chip dip. 

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    This incoherent rant doesn't even make sense. Clearly you are drunk and high on Lawson's chip dip. 

    hell ya im drunen as hell but if i wanna go to work tommorow i do  not have to

  • Zombo said:

    The NFL decides what season is it is.

    And domes are gay.

    Congrats to KC and Philly who make watching the NFL enjoyable to watch with outdoor stadiums, natural sunlight, real grass and rabid fans.

    Z

    I  100+% agree  I don't like those ugly domes for 'Merican smash mouth football  now retractable stadiums I 100+% agree  with.  I'd like to go that way, just lay out the Cleveland and region benefits  like hotels, bars, parking, and other tax and revenue produing cash and jobs, jobs, jobs !

    And   the massive ROI   -OR-  in everyday person's language how everyone will make   mo' money   having a regional use retractable stadium like hotels, for the 8 BROWNS GAMES  and the   endless   tractor pulls, rodeos,  concerts, conventions,  on and on and on.

    The tax and many other $$$ benefits will go into the state and local cash drawers to pay back the stadium costs and other revenues to to save (and spend).  Who knows maybe they will lower our taxes !   😆.  

    The retractable stadium  (or ugly dome) benefits are endless.    😍

  • Zombo said:

    How did that work out?

    Z

    all good

  • Since none of our opinions amount to a hill of beans as far as what actually happens eventually, how has this thread survived this long ? Syd and Zombo just get a room. 

  • I think the larger point is as much as a stadium costs to build it makes no sense to build something with limited use.

    When was the last time you sold a home with no AC?

  • I think the larger point is as much as a stadium costs to build it makes no sense to build something with limited use.

    When was the last time you sold a home with no AC?

    @ballpeen said:

    I think the larger point is as much as a stadium costs to build it makes no sense to build something with limited use.

    When was the last time you sold a home with no AC?

    I'm sure Zombo thinks air conditioning is gay too. 

  • Zombo said:

    So glad a homo from a Dome City is here to tell us our opinions don't matter. Maybe if you Georgia sheep would have stood up and been counted Falcons games wouldn't be as boring as a Ladies Curling.

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    i lived outside of atlanta for a few years  and let me tell ya even in the braves playoff runs and their football team doing well no one showed up to the games it's a sorry ass excuse for a sports town and if any team did move outta there no one would care

  • the seattle seahawks moved from a dome to open air and last as i remember it rains alot up there and snows to

  • sydS syd

    the seattle seahawks moved from a dome to open air and last as i remember it rains alot up there and snows to

    @syd said:

    the seattle seahawks moved from a dome to open air and last as i remember it rains alot up there and snows to

    Actually, despite Seattle being substantially more north than us (Cleveland OH and/or Foxborough MA) it is usually fed by air and ocean currents that make for milder winters than we get, both in average temperature and snowfall.  - Just sayin'.

  • @syd said:

    the seattle seahawks moved from a dome to open air and last as i remember it rains alot up there and snows to

    Actually, despite Seattle being substantially more north than us (Cleveland OH and/or Foxborough MA) it is usually fed by air and ocean currents that make for milder winters than we get, both in average temperature and snowfall.  - Just sayin'.

    @orion said:

    Actually, despite Seattle being substantially more north than us (Cleveland OH and/or Foxborough MA) it is usually fed by air and ocean currents that make for milder winters than we get, both in average temperature and snowfall.  - Just sayin'.

    Orion, you had a really good point this week in another thread.  It was something a long the line of we are/should be designing this team the way Philly has.  LOVED hearing that because we should be using more of an RPO offense with Deshaun Watson at the helm.  Look what that has done for Jalen Hurts, who's currently playing with a lot of hurts.  The point is, that inside read option for the QB is used with GREAT success for Josh Allen in Buffalo as well.  I'd love to see that with Chubb and Watson.  Steve Mariucci was showing replays of how that RPO playaction froze up one of the most instinctive LBers in the game today Fred Warner.  Taking away that 1st step instinct showed he couldn't get to plays he usually makes all over the field. Best thing about this offense?  It's more compatible with Watson and the personnel we have as well as the climate.

    The challenge?  The Head Coach here who insists on calling the plays has an NFL experience prior to Cleveland of coaching only 1 team's offense that played in a DOME since his NFL coaching career began in 2006.   That reared it's ugly head in the game vrs New Orleans.  Nothing they did on offense that day showed an understanding that passing into wind chills of 15 degrees below zero was not advisable.  So, what happened?  The Saints used some RPO through Taysom Hill, who clobbered us with his legs.  The Browns were stopping the run when Dalton was in handing off.  Once our offense showed little consistency throwing the ball, they could stop Chubb from beating us.  I think it was the same game where the commentator did a freeze frame replay of 4 WRs doing the same vertical route and button hooking it off at the same distance downfield next to DBs.  If you connected the 4 dots across the field from 1 sideline to the other you had a straight horizontal line.  Very easy to defend aside from the weather making it tough on the QB; because there's no change of direction to challenge the decision making of the DBs or the possibility of clearing out any areas.   When I think of the Minnesota teams under Zimmer - I think of Charmin Soft toilet paper.  People questioned the QBs while Stefon Diggs wanted out of that offense.

    On the Defensive side of the ball, Philly couldn't be a better example of how to set up your gridiron attack.  They have the IDL/DTs that make it easy to play LBer behind. They also gave CPR to Hasson Reddick's career as a 6'1" 240 lb LB after DEs Derek Barnett and Robert Quinn went on IR - and he became their #1 edge rusher.  I don't know if this would have been nearly possible if he was the lighter type of guy our FO prefers while thinking IDL/DTs aren't a priority in front of them.

    I'm more worried about the FO and Head Coach in terms of the current design of offense they have in place or lack thereof.  I think we have some stubborn egos that might refuse an honest evaluation; because they allegedly know way more than the white noise surrounding them.  The good news is I think Schwartz can put a competent influence on the type of personnel needed on defense.  

    I would prefer this team to choose a more similar path of the Philadelphia Eagles than that of the ONLY other NFL team Stefanski coached for - Minnesota.  It's up to the FO and the Head Coach to make this team all-weather compatible.  Do they have the collective experience and cohesion to do so?  I'd love to be pleasantly surprised here. We'll see...

  • @orion said:

    Actually, despite Seattle being substantially more north than us (Cleveland OH and/or Foxborough MA) it is usually fed by air and ocean currents that make for milder winters than we get, both in average temperature and snowfall.  - Just sayin'.

    Orion, you had a really good point this week in another thread.  It was something a long the line of we are/should be designing this team the way Philly has.  LOVED hearing that because we should be using more of an RPO offense with Deshaun Watson at the helm.  Look what that has done for Jalen Hurts, who's currently playing with a lot of hurts.  The point is, that inside read option for the QB is used with GREAT success for Josh Allen in Buffalo as well.  I'd love to see that with Chubb and Watson.  Steve Mariucci was showing replays of how that RPO playaction froze up one of the most instinctive LBers in the game today Fred Warner.  Taking away that 1st step instinct showed he couldn't get to plays he usually makes all over the field. Best thing about this offense?  It's more compatible with Watson and the personnel we have as well as the climate.

    The challenge?  The Head Coach here who insists on calling the plays has an NFL experience prior to Cleveland of coaching only 1 team's offense that played in a DOME since his NFL coaching career began in 2006.   That reared it's ugly head in the game vrs New Orleans.  Nothing they did on offense that day showed an understanding that passing into wind chills of 15 degrees below zero was not advisable.  So, what happened?  The Saints used some RPO through Taysom Hill, who clobbered us with his legs.  The Browns were stopping the run when Dalton was in handing off.  Once our offense showed little consistency throwing the ball, they could stop Chubb from beating us.  I think it was the same game where the commentator did a freeze frame replay of 4 WRs doing the same vertical route and button hooking it off at the same distance downfield next to DBs.  If you connected the 4 dots across the field from 1 sideline to the other you had a straight horizontal line.  Very easy to defend aside from the weather making it tough on the QB; because there's no change of direction to challenge the decision making of the DBs or the possibility of clearing out any areas.   When I think of the Minnesota teams under Zimmer - I think of Charmin Soft toilet paper.  People questioned the QBs while Stefon Diggs wanted out of that offense.

    On the Defensive side of the ball, Philly couldn't be a better example of how to set up your gridiron attack.  They have the IDL/DTs that make it easy to play LBer behind. They also gave CPR to Hasson Reddick's career as a 6'1" 240 lb LB after DEs Derek Barnett and Robert Quinn went on IR - and he became their #1 edge rusher.  I don't know if this would have been nearly possible if he was the lighter type of guy our FO prefers while thinking IDL/DTs aren't a priority in front of them.

    I'm more worried about the FO and Head Coach in terms of the current design of offense they have in place or lack thereof.  I think we have some stubborn egos that might refuse an honest evaluation; because they allegedly know way more than the white noise surrounding them.  The good news is I think Schwartz can put a competent influence on the type of personnel needed on defense.  

    I would prefer this team to choose a more similar path of the Philadelphia Eagles than that of the ONLY other NFL team Stefanski coached for - Minnesota.  It's up to the FO and the Head Coach to make this team all-weather compatible.  Do they have the collective experience and cohesion to do so?  I'd love to be pleasantly surprised here. We'll see...

    @flugel said:

    Orion, you had a really good point this week in another thread.  It was something a long the line of we are/should be designing this team the way Philly has.

    Thanks.  But actually I was saying that 'they', the Browns, wanted us to be more like Philly.  Especially on the D, and with the hiring of Schwartz...who likes his front line guys.

    In reality however, I've never been a big fan of putting my QB's in position to get hurt.  I don't like them running the ball.  I need them for passing the ball....all season long...every season.  How helpful has Llamar Jackson been to his team the last two years?  

    I don't mind them running when the play disintegrates, but if there's no real running room then just throw it away.  And if ya do run, get down before contact.  Give me the Tom Brady type.   Too much is invested in the QB position (we're a point in case) and they're too important to the success of a team.  Now, if Watson isn't great at being the Brady type and his strength is being the Jackson type, then that's what ya gotta do.  You can't keep trying to mash the guy into the round hole.  But I keep going back to DePodesta's wanting to hire Stef when Dorsey insisted on the Bill-Hilly.  I'm assuming DePo liked what Stef was doing.  And I'm wondering if we will now be mashing Stef into a round hole....and if he's malleable enough.

  • @flugel said:

    Orion, you had a really good point this week in another thread.  It was something a long the line of we are/should be designing this team the way Philly has.

    Thanks.  But actually I was saying that 'they', the Browns, wanted us to be more like Philly.  Especially on the D, and with the hiring of Schwartz...who likes his front line guys.

    In reality however, I've never been a big fan of putting my QB's in position to get hurt.  I don't like them running the ball.  I need them for passing the ball....all season long...every season.  How helpful has Llamar Jackson been to his team the last two years?  

    I don't mind them running when the play disintegrates, but if there's no real running room then just throw it away.  And if ya do run, get down before contact.  Give me the Tom Brady type.   Too much is invested in the QB position (we're a point in case) and they're too important to the success of a team.  Now, if Watson isn't great at being the Brady type and his strength is being the Jackson type, then that's what ya gotta do.  You can't keep trying to mash the guy into the round hole.  But I keep going back to DePodesta's wanting to hire Stef when Dorsey insisted on the Bill-Hilly.  I'm assuming DePo liked what Stef was doing.  And I'm wondering if we will now be mashing Stef into a round hole....and if he's malleable enough.

    @orion said:

    Thanks.  But actually I was saying that 'they', the Browns, wanted us to be more like Philly.  Especially on the D, and with the hiring of Schwartz...who likes his front line guys.

    In reality however, I've never been a big fan of putting my QB's in position to get hurt.  I don't like them running the ball.  I need them for passing the ball....all season long...every season.  How helpful has Llamar Jackson been to his team the last two years?  

    I don't mind them running when the play disintegrates, but if there's no real running room then just throw it away.  And if ya do run, get down before contact.  Give me the Tom Brady type.   Too much is invested in the QB position (we're a point in case) and they're too important to the success of a team.  Now, if Watson isn't great at being the Brady type and his strength is being the Jackson type, then that's what ya gotta do.  You can't keep trying to mash the guy into the round hole.  But I keep going back to DePodesta's wanting to hire Stef when Dorsey insisted on the Bill-Hilly.  I'm assuming DePo liked what Stef was doing.  And I'm wondering if we will now be mashing Stef into a round hole....and if he's malleable enough.

    I think Watson is a far better passer than Jackson is, and all-around a better, more complete QB than Jackson. (Or, I should say, he was. No guarantee he is or will be, of course)