The Eagles
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My daughter lives in West Chester PA a suburb of Phlliy, so I'm rooting for the Eagles.
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Eagles hire Andrew Berry’s twin brother away from Goldman Sachs
https://sports.yahoo.com/eagles-hire-andrew-berry-twin-222157258.html
This one will make you do a double-take. The Philadelphia Eagles have hired the twin brother of Andrew Berry, who is the general manager of the Cleveland Browns. Adam Berry, a former managing director at Goldman Sachs, is set to join the Eagles this offseason. Andrew previously worked under general manager Howie Roseman in Philadelphia before he was hired as the general manager of the Brown
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Regarding them Bungles... I really don't feel your pain.... But I do relate... We had "Red Right 88", "The Drive", and "The Fumble"..... You now have "The Shove".... let me know when you catch up in the one step away heartbreak department....
Oh, I get it, the Super Bowl choke itis ... At least you got there....
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Regarding them Bungles... I really don't feel your pain.... But I do relate... We had "Red Right 88", "The Drive", and "The Fumble"..... You now have "The Shove".... let me know when you catch up in the one step away heartbreak department....
Oh, I get it, the Super Bowl choke itis ... At least you got there....
Regarding them Bungles... I really don't feel your pain.... But I do relate... We had "Red Right 88", "The Drive", and "The Fumble"..... You now have "The Shove".... let me know when you catch up in the one step away heartbreak department....
Oh, I get it, the Super Bowl choke itis ... At least you got there....
Almost does not count!
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Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Karlis Missed -
Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
So nice to see the Top 75 BROWNS Moments again, I could just sit back and go through the entire list over again. Reminds me of the 75 good reasons here and many more for being a Cleveland BROWNS fan.
Even ones like this I was 19 when Pete Rozelle and others brought about the great merger between the pass happy AFL and the old and legendary NFL football league. But then the dividing and merging and oh-no say it's not so ...... our legendary BROWNS now in the AFC and even with the pitiful Pittsburgh steelers who from 1933 to 1970 had never ever won even one single playoff game.
And CLE, CIN, PIT in the same division with HOU ? Why ? Not a NE USA team like BUF, DET, NE, even GB, oh well done and gone now. But at the time I thought it was just poor planning when I was 19.
31. The Browns and Steelers are placed in a new AFC Central division along with the Houston Oilers and Cincinnati Bengals in 1970 to become part of the new American Football Conference (AFC).
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Regarding them Bungles... I really don't feel your pain.... But I do relate... We had "Red Right 88", "The Drive", and "The Fumble"..... You now have "The Shove".... let me know when you catch up in the one step away heartbreak department....
Oh, I get it, the Super Bowl choke itis ... At least you got there....
Regarding them Bungles... I really don't feel your pain.... But I do relate... We had "Red Right 88", "The Drive", and "The Fumble"..... You now have "The Shove".... let me know when you catch up in the one step away heartbreak department....
Oh, I get it, the Super Bowl choke itis ... At least you got there....
Yes, this.
This is the thing that's impossible for me to grasp....regarding the "NFL is fixed" crowd. I really have a hard time believing the NFL is intentionally fixing games. You'd think that if they were, teams like the Browns & the Lions would have been in the Super Bowl by now. Good fan bases, you would think (hope) that they'd be "rewarded" at some point?
Yes, I do think the Browns got screwed on Karlis's wide-left in 1987, but for goodness sake our team's been back for 23 years now, and only 3 playoff seasons. Yep, the Browns get screwed on calls quite a bit (probably more than most), but ultimately its the front office that puts garbage on the field.
Sorry I ventured off topic, just had to vent this morning I guess?
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Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Being somewhat ignorant about the history of Football, care to elaborate why those 3 teams specifically? Even though I'm kinda on board with NY already.
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Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Being somewhat ignorant about the history of Football, care to elaborate why those 3 teams specifically? Even though I'm kinda on board with NY already.
Being somewhat ignorant about the history of Football, care to elaborate why those 3 teams specifically? Even though I'm kinda on board with NY already.
The NY Giants, Lions, & Eagles were big rivals of the Browns (as were the LA Rams, nee CLE Rams who left CLE). Of course, the NFL was much smaller than it is today.
The Lions beat the Browns a few times in the NFL title game in the 50s. So my dad hated that ( similar to my issues with Denver lol). The Browns did avenge a couple of those losses eventually, beating the Lions in a championship game.
If you happened to read that article, the Eagles coach totally disrespected the Browns & the old AAFC, figuring it was minor league football merging with the NFL. Paul Brown used it as motivation, and probably got the fan base fired up as well.
If you ever get a chance to read up, there's a few cool Browns books out there like "PB, the Paul Brown Story" or "Day By Day in Cleveland Browns History," and they touch on the early days of Browns football. Warning- "False Start," by Terry Pluto will get you fired up, be careful lol (it's about the rebirth of the Browns after Art's crime).
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Being somewhat ignorant about the history of Football, care to elaborate why those 3 teams specifically? Even though I'm kinda on board with NY already.
The NY Giants, Lions, & Eagles were big rivals of the Browns (as were the LA Rams, nee CLE Rams who left CLE). Of course, the NFL was much smaller than it is today.
The Lions beat the Browns a few times in the NFL title game in the 50s. So my dad hated that ( similar to my issues with Denver lol). The Browns did avenge a couple of those losses eventually, beating the Lions in a championship game.
If you happened to read that article, the Eagles coach totally disrespected the Browns & the old AAFC, figuring it was minor league football merging with the NFL. Paul Brown used it as motivation, and probably got the fan base fired up as well.
If you ever get a chance to read up, there's a few cool Browns books out there like "PB, the Paul Brown Story" or "Day By Day in Cleveland Browns History," and they touch on the early days of Browns football. Warning- "False Start," by Terry Pluto will get you fired up, be careful lol (it's about the rebirth of the Browns after Art's crime).
The NY Giants, Lions, & Eagles were big rivals of the Browns (as were the LA Rams, nee CLE Rams who left CLE). Of course, the NFL was much smaller than it is today.
The Lions beat the Browns a few times in the NFL title game in the 50s. So my dad hated that ( similar to my issues with Denver lol). The Browns did avenge a couple of those losses eventually, beating the Lions in a championship game.
If you happened to read that article, the Eagles coach totally disrespected the Browns & the old AAFC, figuring it was minor league football merging with the NFL. Paul Brown used it as motivation, and probably got the fan base fired up as well.
If you ever get a chance to read up, there's a few cool Browns books out there like "PB, the Paul Brown Story" or "Day By Day in Cleveland Browns History," and they touch on the early days of Browns football. Warning- "False Start," by Terry Pluto will get you fired up, be careful lol (it's about the rebirth of the Browns after Art's crime).
I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
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The NY Giants, Lions, & Eagles were big rivals of the Browns (as were the LA Rams, nee CLE Rams who left CLE). Of course, the NFL was much smaller than it is today.
The Lions beat the Browns a few times in the NFL title game in the 50s. So my dad hated that ( similar to my issues with Denver lol). The Browns did avenge a couple of those losses eventually, beating the Lions in a championship game.
If you happened to read that article, the Eagles coach totally disrespected the Browns & the old AAFC, figuring it was minor league football merging with the NFL. Paul Brown used it as motivation, and probably got the fan base fired up as well.
If you ever get a chance to read up, there's a few cool Browns books out there like "PB, the Paul Brown Story" or "Day By Day in Cleveland Browns History," and they touch on the early days of Browns football. Warning- "False Start," by Terry Pluto will get you fired up, be careful lol (it's about the rebirth of the Browns after Art's crime).
I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
Oh yes ..... our gip emphatically and religiously included the 46-49 Cleveland BROWNS into this conversation so there it is. 1946, 47 | 48, 1949 as a card carrying member of the National Football League. Come hell or high water. And yes Paul Brown's team beat the defending NFL Champs in 1950, right ? Clear enough, yes they deserved a seat at the table ?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
So nice to see the Top 75 BROWNS Moments again, I could just sit back and go through the entire list over again. Reminds me of the 75 good reasons here and many more for being a Cleveland BROWNS fan.
Even ones like this I was 19 when Pete Rozelle and others brought about the great merger between the pass happy AFL and the old and legendary NFL football league. But then the dividing and merging and oh-no say it's not so ...... our legendary BROWNS now in the AFC and even with the pitiful Pittsburgh steelers who from 1933 to 1970 had never ever won even one single playoff game.
And CLE, CIN, PIT in the same division with HOU ? Why ? Not a NE USA team like BUF, DET, NE, even GB, oh well done and gone now. But at the time I thought it was just poor planning when I was 19.
31. The Browns and Steelers are placed in a new AFC Central division along with the Houston Oilers and Cincinnati Bengals in 1970 to become part of the new American Football Conference (AFC).
And CLE, CIN, PIT in the same division with HOU ? Why ? Not a NE USA team like BUF, DET, NE, even GB, oh well done and gone now. But at the time I thought it was just poor planning when I was 19.
31. The Browns and Steelers are placed in a new AFC Central division along with the Houston Oilers and Cincinnati Bengals in 1970 to become part of the new American Football Conference (AFC).
I think we have all played that game at one time or another. The problem is we see it as browns fans. Other teams had their concerns as well. Everything from maintaining rivalries to TV scheduling.
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Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Never Forget (73 years later lol)
When I was growing up, my Dad told me I could like any team I want except the Eagles, Lions, & NY Giants.
The Lions never bothered me, but yes Dad (RIP), I still hate Philly & the NYGiants.
Because the Steelers sucked so bad back then there was no reason to hate them.
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The NY Giants, Lions, & Eagles were big rivals of the Browns (as were the LA Rams, nee CLE Rams who left CLE). Of course, the NFL was much smaller than it is today.
The Lions beat the Browns a few times in the NFL title game in the 50s. So my dad hated that ( similar to my issues with Denver lol). The Browns did avenge a couple of those losses eventually, beating the Lions in a championship game.
If you happened to read that article, the Eagles coach totally disrespected the Browns & the old AAFC, figuring it was minor league football merging with the NFL. Paul Brown used it as motivation, and probably got the fan base fired up as well.
If you ever get a chance to read up, there's a few cool Browns books out there like "PB, the Paul Brown Story" or "Day By Day in Cleveland Browns History," and they touch on the early days of Browns football. Warning- "False Start," by Terry Pluto will get you fired up, be careful lol (it's about the rebirth of the Browns after Art's crime).
I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
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I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
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I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
First off, it's water long under the bridge, and will never change but... The Browns got screwed in the record department.. Period.
1) Dare I ask... How old are you? I'm PLENTY old enough to remember the days of the old AFL.... Same shit.. the NFL thumbed their noses in the 1960s for years at the "minor league" AFL, that is, until Daddy Warbucks guys like Lamar Hunt started outbidding the NFL for top tier talent. In that time frame, the AFL was not a whit more legit than the Browns of the 1940s.
2) If you think any startup league today could compete with the NFL's (I believe it's something like the $12 billion dollar war chest of TV revenue) put down your crack pipe. 1950 was a totally different era.
Need a history refresher? The "upstart" Cleveland Browns beat the defending NFL Champion Eagles 35-10 in the first game of the season. Got any rebuttal to that one? Or how Cleveland later won what would now be considered the "Super Bowl" later that year? Hmmmm?
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I should add.. Our long time poster and now RIP guy the Gipper added on.... In 1950 the NFL commissioner was so disgusted the the "Minor League" AAFC Browns were joining the NFL, he made sure all the Browns records previous to that never officially counted. But 15 or so years later, the old AFL records DO count. Never mind the Browns beat the reining NFL champs (the Eagles) twice that year.
The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
Only half a joke.
The NFL wasn't all that established and still in the rinky dink stages of development. I do agree it is foolish to bring up old AAFC championships. That was 70 years ago. I used to get in to debate with my old friend Gipper about that. He was always bringing up old AAFC records.
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The commissioner was right.
If a current minor league USFL team joined the NFL, their record wouldn't be counted either. I don't know why you old farts are so hung up on that.
The AAFC was a complete joke.
Only half a joke.
The NFL wasn't all that established and still in the rinky dink stages of development. I do agree it is foolish to bring up old AAFC championships. That was 70 years ago. I used to get in to debate with my old friend Gipper about that. He was always bringing up old AAFC records.
Only half a joke.
The NFL wasn't all that established and still in the rinky dink stages of development. I do agree it is foolish to bring up old AAFC championships. That was 70 years ago. I used to get in to debate with my old friend Gipper about that. He was always bringing up old AAFC records.
YES, as good as Paul Brown and the ahead of their time Cleveland BROWNS were the AAFC was not the equal of the more established NFL.
︎. Sorry gip you can not say they were no matter how much you love our BROWNS.
NFL > AAFC, everytime. The AAFC competition was weak and the league folded and "some" players and teams were absorbed into the NFL ...... the rest went back to selling cars or maybe washing them. Sorry gip and others just the facts of what actually happened.
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