Special Teams Coach Mike Priefer Fired
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With no 1st rnd draft picks till 25.. Yeah... I want to coach a team with that set up.. LOL
If Watson pans out as expected, we won't miss the next 2 first rounders. That assumes we make the most of the picks we do have and find at least 2-3 starters over the next 2 drafts.
I think a big part of Berrys job these next two drafts is to not think so much about a players ceiling but rather to think about the floor. I don't like to say make safe picks, but that might be the only way to describe it.
If Watson pans out as expected, we won't miss the next 2 first rounders. That assumes we make the most of the picks we do have and find at least 2-3 starters over the next 2 drafts.
I think a big part of Berrys job these next two drafts is to not think so much about a players ceiling but rather to think about the floor. I don't like to say make safe picks, but that might be the only way to describe it.
Watson is washed up LOL... Puhleeze.. He will N O T pan out
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
It’s not a good look shaking up the coaching staff going into Kev’s 4th season.
Its looking like Stefanski is getting a very short leash from Jimmah & DePud in 2023.
Unless things get turned around this year, it’s more than likely Kevin’s last year as HC.
I don’t see it that way.
Keep in mind coming into last season we had the entire staff in back…I believe for three seasons. That kind of continuity is rare in the NFL.
I was hoping…believing actually that the familiarity would be a huge bonus coming into last season.
Missing the playoffs while having Sluggish playcalling…in game collapses and namely the defense speaking out in season will be his undoing
We made necessary moves…kept our offensive line coach, got rid of the defensive coordinator and special teams coaches-sorry but we could attribute loses to those two
I don’t see it that way.
Keep in mind coming into last season we had the entire staff in back…I believe for three seasons. That kind of continuity is rare in the NFL.
I was hoping…believing actually that the familiarity would be a huge bonus coming into last season.
Missing the playoffs while having Sluggish playcalling…in game collapses and namely the defense speaking out in season will be his undoing
We made necessary moves…kept our offensive line coach, got rid of the defensive coordinator and special teams coaches-sorry but we could attribute loses to those two
The NFL is all about stats, the ultimate stat is wins & losses.
The Browns high water mark was in 2020, and the losses are piling up.
Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
I think it’s common knowledge in NE Ohio that Kev is now on notice it’s time to shine.
I still believe anything less than a deep playoff run, this will be his last year as HC.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
If Watson pans out as expected, we won't miss the next 2 first rounders. That assumes we make the most of the picks we do have and find at least 2-3 starters over the next 2 drafts.
I think a big part of Berrys job these next two drafts is to not think so much about a players ceiling but rather to think about the floor. I don't like to say make safe picks, but that might be the only way to describe it.
Watson is washed up LOL... Puhleeze.. He will N O T pan out
Watson is washed up LOL... Puhleeze.. He will N O T pan out
At this point that remains to be seen. At this point I don't think we can talk in absolutes about Watson.
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I don’t see it that way.
Keep in mind coming into last season we had the entire staff in back…I believe for three seasons. That kind of continuity is rare in the NFL.
I was hoping…believing actually that the familiarity would be a huge bonus coming into last season.
Missing the playoffs while having Sluggish playcalling…in game collapses and namely the defense speaking out in season will be his undoing
We made necessary moves…kept our offensive line coach, got rid of the defensive coordinator and special teams coaches-sorry but we could attribute loses to those two
The NFL is all about stats, the ultimate stat is wins & losses.
The Browns high water mark was in 2020, and the losses are piling up.
Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
I think it’s common knowledge in NE Ohio that Kev is now on notice it’s time to shine.
I still believe anything less than a deep playoff run, this will be his last year as HC.
The NFL is all about stats, the ultimate stat is wins & losses.
The Browns high water mark was in 2020, and the losses are piling up.
Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
I think it’s common knowledge in NE Ohio that Kev is now on notice it’s time to shine.
I still believe anything less than a deep playoff run, this will be his last year as HC.
I don't agree that it has to be a deep playoff run. I do agree we probably need to win 10-11 games. I don't know at what point Stefanski might get the axe, but it could be as early as week 3 if we start 0-3. By the time week 7 is finished, 4-3 is probably where i would want to be at minimum if I was him. It might have to be better depending on who we play and if there are any screwed up losses.
I think we all know the difference between a loss and a screwed up loss. At least we should.
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The NFL is all about stats, the ultimate stat is wins & losses.
The Browns high water mark was in 2020, and the losses are piling up.
Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
I think it’s common knowledge in NE Ohio that Kev is now on notice it’s time to shine.
I still believe anything less than a deep playoff run, this will be his last year as HC.
I don't agree that it has to be a deep playoff run. I do agree we probably need to win 10-11 games. I don't know at what point Stefanski might get the axe, but it could be as early as week 3 if we start 0-3. By the time week 7 is finished, 4-3 is probably where i would want to be at minimum if I was him. It might have to be better depending on who we play and if there are any screwed up losses.
I think we all know the difference between a loss and a screwed up loss. At least we should.
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I don't know that Bubba Ventrone is an "UPGRADE" But he's an interesting Candidate..
Ventrone, 40, has established himself as one of the best special teams coordinators in the NFL over the past five seasons in Indianapolis, annually presiding over excellent coverage and return units while simultaneously helping players like Zach Pascal, Zaire Franklin and Isaiah Rodgers develop from special teamers into valuable contributors on offense or defense
yes i would say he is a upgrade
Ventrone, 40, has established himself as one of the best special teams coordinators in the NFL over the past five seasons in Indianapolis, annually presiding over excellent coverage and return units while simultaneously helping players like Zach Pascal, Zaire Franklin and Isaiah Rodgers develop from special teamers into valuable contributors on offense or defense
yes i would say he is a upgrade
It comes as no surprise that other teams are interested in Ventrone, who has helped the Colts' special teams unit improve every season since arriving on the scene in 2018.
God forbid our special teams improve every year. Old @nickerswould have less to nag and bitch about. Taking away a man's reasons to live is just cruel.
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I don’t see it that way.
Keep in mind coming into last season we had the entire staff in back…I believe for three seasons. That kind of continuity is rare in the NFL.
I was hoping…believing actually that the familiarity would be a huge bonus coming into last season.
Missing the playoffs while having Sluggish playcalling…in game collapses and namely the defense speaking out in season will be his undoing
We made necessary moves…kept our offensive line coach, got rid of the defensive coordinator and special teams coaches-sorry but we could attribute loses to those two
The NFL is all about stats, the ultimate stat is wins & losses.
The Browns high water mark was in 2020, and the losses are piling up.
Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
I think it’s common knowledge in NE Ohio that Kev is now on notice it’s time to shine.
I still believe anything less than a deep playoff run, this will be his last year as HC.
Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
The WR changes have been the departures of Odell and Juice along with the addition of Cooper this year. That really isn't a point with any finality.
QB changes from 2020 went from Baker to Brissett. So that's about a wash. Actually Jacoby enjoyed one of his more statistically efficient seasons in CLE.
The Safety changes have been upgrading from, quite literally, the worst safety duo in the NFL during that 2020 season, so at least one that is about league average. Impressive.
DC has been Woods from 2020 to 2022. So there has been no change from the "high water mark", and I have zero idea where you were going with this.
Also, Ken Carmen, like most local sports talk show hosts, are hacks. Mary Kay with her columns, Ken, Grossi... Etc etc. If Carmen is your favorite, then I'd suggest looking for football talk with less sensationalism and more substance.
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Since that time there’s been personnel changes at WR, QB, S, DC, and ST Coach.
To quote my favorite Cleveland sports guy Ken Carman, “Stefanski is running out of scapegoats”.
The WR changes have been the departures of Odell and Juice along with the addition of Cooper this year. That really isn't a point with any finality.
QB changes from 2020 went from Baker to Brissett. So that's about a wash. Actually Jacoby enjoyed one of his more statistically efficient seasons in CLE.
The Safety changes have been upgrading from, quite literally, the worst safety duo in the NFL during that 2020 season, so at least one that is about league average. Impressive.
DC has been Woods from 2020 to 2022. So there has been no change from the "high water mark", and I have zero idea where you were going with this.
Also, Ken Carmen, like most local sports talk show hosts, are hacks. Mary Kay with her columns, Ken, Grossi... Etc etc. If Carmen is your favorite, then I'd suggest looking for football talk with less sensationalism and more substance.
The WR changes have been the departures of Odell and Juice along with the addition of Cooper this year. That really isn't a point with any finality.
QB changes from 2020 went from Baker to Brissett. So that's about a wash. Actually Jacoby enjoyed one of his more statistically efficient seasons in CLE.
The Safety changes have been upgrading from, quite literally, the worst safety duo in the NFL during that 2020 season, so at least one that is about league average. Impressive.
DC has been Woods from 2020 to 2022. So there has been no change from the "high water mark", and I have zero idea where you were going with this.
Also, Ken Carmen, like most local sports talk show hosts, are hacks. Mary Kay with her columns, Ken, Grossi... Etc etc. If Carmen is your favorite, then I'd suggest looking for football talk with less sensationalism and more substance.
I’ll simplify this for you….Kev needs to win or he’s gone.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
The WR changes have been the departures of Odell and Juice along with the addition of Cooper this year. That really isn't a point with any finality.
QB changes from 2020 went from Baker to Brissett. So that's about a wash. Actually Jacoby enjoyed one of his more statistically efficient seasons in CLE.
The Safety changes have been upgrading from, quite literally, the worst safety duo in the NFL during that 2020 season, so at least one that is about league average. Impressive.
DC has been Woods from 2020 to 2022. So there has been no change from the "high water mark", and I have zero idea where you were going with this.
Also, Ken Carmen, like most local sports talk show hosts, are hacks. Mary Kay with her columns, Ken, Grossi... Etc etc. If Carmen is your favorite, then I'd suggest looking for football talk with less sensationalism and more substance.
I’ll simplify this for you….Kev needs to win or he’s gone.
I’ll simplify this for you….Kev needs to win or he’s gone.
That's every coach. But if your expectation is Superbowl or fired, then we need to be a bit more realistic about said expectations.
The AFC is as strong as I've seen it since Manning, Brady and Ben were in their prime.
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Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
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Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Something to that extent must have been dangled in front of him. As much as I love my Browns, I do not see how a successful and highly sought after ST Coordinator just makes a sideways move to us, without being 'incentivized.'
Regardless, count your blessings. Similarly to Schwartz, we got the best candidate available. How often do we get to say that? Let alone twice in the same off-season.
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Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
I though Callie Brownson held that title.. But then I thought I heard the other day shes coaching Receivers?... I haven't seen anything yet that says the Bubba deal is done beside a lot of interweb chatter......
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Schwartz is probably that guy. And I don’t think we need a deep playoff run, but I think we need to make the playoffs.
8-9 and 7-10 respectively were unacceptable given the roster we had.
It seems like the organization knew the DC had to go, Likely felt Preifer needed to go and he ultimately did, had to do what it needed to do to keep Callahan…and I think Stefanski probably got a put up or get the hell out speech.
I have to say I’m happy. Of course See me again October
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Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Schwartz is probably that guy. And I don’t think we need a deep playoff run, but I think we need to make the playoffs.
8-9 and 7-10 respectively were unacceptable given the roster we had.
It seems like the organization knew the DC had to go, Likely felt Preifer needed to go and he ultimately did, had to do what it needed to do to keep Callahan…and I think Stefanski probably got a put up or get the hell out speech.
I have to say I’m happy. Of course See me again October
Schwartz is probably that guy. And I don’t think we need a deep playoff run, but I think we need to make the playoffs.
8-9 and 7-10 respectively were unacceptable given the roster we had.
It seems like the organization knew the DC had to go, Likely felt Preifer needed to go and he ultimately did, had to do what it needed to do to keep Callahan…and I think Stefanski probably got a put up or get the hell out speech.
I have to say I’m happy.
Won't say I'm happy but ever so "slightly' encouraged.. But... It's about Dubya's man..
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Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Schwartz is probably that guy. And I don’t think we need a deep playoff run, but I think we need to make the playoffs.
8-9 and 7-10 respectively were unacceptable given the roster we had.
It seems like the organization knew the DC had to go, Likely felt Preifer needed to go and he ultimately did, had to do what it needed to do to keep Callahan…and I think Stefanski probably got a put up or get the hell out speech.
I have to say I’m happy. Of course See me again October
Schwartz is probably that guy.
Or Van Pelt. Certainly not the new ST guy I should think.
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Kev’s mid season replacement? ?
Something to that extent must have been dangled in front of him. As much as I love my Browns, I do not see how a successful and highly sought after ST Coordinator just makes a sideways move to us, without being 'incentivized.'
Regardless, count your blessings. Similarly to Schwartz, we got the best candidate available. How often do we get to say that? Let alone twice in the same off-season.
Regardless, count your blessings. Similarly to Schwartz, we got the best candidate available. How often do we get to say that? Let alone twice in the same off-season.
So your telling me ? Our beloved Browns..
Didn't wait until the last minute to take who's ever leftover.. While interviewing 3 each, early in a coaching process
Didn't have to piss off the world paying guaranteed money up front to a somewhat pervert..and
Didn't have to use words of.. "We need a Adult in the room"
Excuse me... while I go run naked thru some Florida bushes ? I'll log back in Friday to see if any of this is still real
WELCOME BACK BUBBA ! ? LFG !
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Schwartz is probably that guy. And I don’t think we need a deep playoff run, but I think we need to make the playoffs.
8-9 and 7-10 respectively were unacceptable given the roster we had.
It seems like the organization knew the DC had to go, Likely felt Preifer needed to go and he ultimately did, had to do what it needed to do to keep Callahan…and I think Stefanski probably got a put up or get the hell out speech.
I have to say I’m happy.
Won't say I'm happy but ever so "slightly' encouraged.. But... It's about Dubya's man..
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Apparently Bubba deal is done, and he is also getting the title of assistant HC.
I though Callie Brownson held that title.. But then I thought I heard the other day shes coaching Receivers?... I haven't seen anything yet that says the Bubba deal is done beside a lot of interweb chatter......
I though Callie Brownson held that title.. But then I thought I heard the other day shes coaching Receivers?... I haven't seen anything yet that says the Bubba deal is done beside a lot of interweb chatter......
Official: Browns name Bubba Ventrone special teams coordinator and assistant head coach
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/23/browns-bubba-ventrone-official/
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I though Callie Brownson held that title.. But then I thought I heard the other day shes coaching Receivers?... I haven't seen anything yet that says the Bubba deal is done beside a lot of interweb chatter......
Official: Browns name Bubba Ventrone special teams coordinator and assistant head coach
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/23/browns-bubba-ventrone-official/
Official: Browns name Bubba Ventrone special teams coordinator and assistant head coach
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/23/browns-bubba-ventrone-official/
It also say the browns are looking at James Urban as OC coach... Interesting.. I thought that was AVP's responsibility.. Kevvy better give up play calling duties as well.. He sucks...
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