2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects
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Interior Defenders
Contents to color chart.. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/Cleveland-Browns-2023-NFL-Draft-Prospects-Interior-Defensive-Line-206038676/#206038676_1
If the plan is to add a 2nd young DT mid-rounds? Adding these pair of Longhorns to the list...
Moro Ojomo https://www.nfl.com/prospects/moro-ojomo/32004f4a-4f42-6541-624d-798355140764
Keondre Colburn https://www.nfl.com/prospects/keondre-coburn/3200434f-4282-3710-d7b1-7bab7fe764f1
Sleeper alert.. Kobie Turner & Jerrod Clark
Interior Defenders
Sleeper alert.. Kobie Turner & Jerrod Clark
I will be greatly disappointed if we don't get a superior IDL in free agency who can start immediately. IMO we are in big trouble barring a huge moveup for one of the top 3 in the draft if we don't get one in FA.
I much prefer to be in position for BPA regardless of position rather than have to use our 1st draft pick on IDL. Do the latter and I think it will end up the way the Browns usually end up in the off-season, a lose-lose.
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I watch Josh Downs and I keep coming back around to a mix of Randall Cobb and Antonio Brown (before he went nuts)
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Interior Defenders
Sleeper alert.. Kobie Turner & Jerrod Clark
I will be greatly disappointed if we don't get a superior IDL in free agency who can start immediately. IMO we are in big trouble barring a huge moveup for one of the top 3 in the draft if we don't get one in FA.
I much prefer to be in position for BPA regardless of position rather than have to use our 1st draft pick on IDL. Do the latter and I think it will end up the way the Browns usually end up in the off-season, a lose-lose.
I much prefer to be in position for BPA regardless of position rather than have to use our 1st draft pick on IDL. Do the latter and I think it will end up the way the Browns usually end up in the off-season, a lose-lose.
Aggie,
Most of us sat on this board last post draft, posting trusting Taven Bryan & Elliott would be a risky choice.. Berry passed on fixing the DL & picked a Martin Emerson that I & most had to start with google (not Ag1969)... I can't remember a more flustrating draft than last season.. Adding K Cade York was the only thing I agreed on..
I'm guessing Berry might have a FA DT cap budget of 6M-8M... Jim Schwartz you find one or a combo of two..
Jordan Elliott is contracted to make 3M this season.. 6 others, are on the roster now, making a million (Winfrey) or less..
In Schwartz I'll trust.. We need a FA/Trade DT starter & a camp winner of Elliott vs. ________?
edit-- here's a worth hope list..
FREE AGENT DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Year One Cash - Defensive Tackles
Javon Hargrave - $21.5m
Dre'Mont Jones - $20m
Zach Allen - $14m
Dalvin Tomlinson - $13.5m
Larry Ogunjobi - $11m
David Onyemata - $8m
Poona Ford - $7.5m
Matt Ioannidis - $7m
Fletcher Cox - $7m
Sheldon Rankins - $6.5m
Morgan Fox - $5m
Khalen Saunders - $5m
Jarran Reed - $4m
Dean Lowry - $4m
Shy Tuttle - $4m
Taven Bryan - $3.5m
Akiem Hicks - $3.5m
Greg Gaines - $3m
A'Shawn Robinson - $2.5m
will throw in a wildcard here too if you want DeForest Buckner let's say that costs pick 98
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Somewhat odd ?
What comes next/ is a Teams Pro Day schedule..
March 7: Indiana
March 9: Harvard, Nevada, Texas
March 10: Illinois, Rice
March 13: Oregon State, South Carolina, Western Michigan
March 14: Northwestern, Oregon
March 15: Georgia, Louisiana, Mercer, Michigan State, Minnesota, UCLA
March 17: Michigan
March 20: Bowling Green, Iowa, James Madison, Syracuse, Toledo
March 21: Maine, Ohio, Princeton
March 22: Bryant, Ohio State, SMU, Stanford, Temple, UAB, UConn, UTSA, Weber State
March 23: Alabama, Cincinnati, Holy Cross, Stephen F. Austin, Utah, William & Mary, Wisconsin, Yale
March 24: Boston College, Houston, Kentucky, Missouri, Old Dominion, San Jose State
March 27: Boise State, Memphis, Miami, North Carolina, Sam Houston State, West Virginia
March 28: Arkansas State, NC State, Texas A&M, Washington State, Vanderbilt
March 29: Arkansas, Incarnate Word, LSU, Maryland, North Dakota State, North Texas, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Pittsburgh, Texas Tech, Washington, Wake Forest, Western Kentucky
March 30: Appalachian State, Oklahoma, TCU
March 31: Florida State, Kansas, Kansas State
April 5: Montana State
@dutch-oven I've looked at many schedule sites.. And can't seem to find a Penn State's anywhere.. Maybe clearing WR Parker Washington might have something to do with scheduling a Penn State Pro day ?
We could use a replacement Jarvis Landry anywhere
Somewhat odd ?
What comes next/ is a Teams Pro Day schedule..
I've looked at many schedule sites.. And can't seem to find a Penn State's anywhere.. Maybe clearing WR Parker Washington might have something to do with scheduling a Penn State Pro day ?
Can't confirm WR Parker Washington is ready?
But, can confirm Penn State has scheduled it's Pro Day for MARCH 24th
Can track some Pro day results here.. https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-draft-pro-day-tracker
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Final Four WR's...
2nd to 4th round grades
Interesting Gumbs! I don't like ANY Northcutt clones that weigh in the 170s for anything other than a return specialist. Take that with a grain of salt though since it's only me saying that with very, very limited time spent on researching prospects so far. I REALLY like seeing Parker Washington has a compact 5'10" frame at 204 lbs with strength of 16 reps so it looks like we could line him up on the line of scrimmage when/if necessary.
I know you have a lot of familiarity with the local guys you see in the Carolinas and ACC. If you're like me, you'd like to see your local studs end up with Cleveland. EDIT: I just cut and pasted 2nd and 3rd round mock drafts (in the next post) from 2 guys with Clevelandbrowns.com where 1 has the Browns drafting Josh Brown in round 2 and a DL in round 3. If you had your choice, would you go with the Carolina Kid or the better RAS if it came down to Mingo or Downs? I get the feeling there's a little James Taylor vibe working here - "In my mind I'm gone to Carolina..."
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
2023 ClevelandBrowns.com Mock Draft 1.0
Anthony Poisal and Jason Gibbs make their predictions for who the Browns might select with their first two draft picks
Mar 10, 2023 at 09:01 AM
We're 48 days away from Day 1 of the NFL Draft — and 47 days away from when the Browns are slated to make their first pick of the draft at No. 42 overall.
The Browns don't have a first-round pick but will still likely need to select a player in Round 2 capable of making an immediate difference, and that pick has widely been projected by draft analysts to be spent toward a defensive linemen or wide receiver. Their second pick will come at No. 98 overall in the third round and could also be used at those positions, too.
The first mock draft from ClevelandBrowns.com with staff writer Anthony Poisal and radio producer Jason Gibbs follows those mock trends. We'll check back a few more times before the draft begins and find out next week how the free agency shuffle might affect the Browns' draft needs.
Anthony Poisal
Round 2 (No. 42)
WR Josh Downs, UNC - I think the Browns should take care of their needs at defensive line in free agency, where it should be much easier to find instant-impact players rather than taking a chance at finding a starter with a Day 2 rookie. They should have an easier time, however, finding a speedy receiver at this point of the draft who can immediately be inserted into the lineup and help them stretch opposing defenses. That's what a player like Downs can offer. It's far from a guarantee — but far from impossible — he'll still be available this late in the draft, but the Browns need to add another talented receiver and deep-ball threat for Deshaun Watson, and Downs meets the criteria.
Round 3 (No. 98)
DT Gervon Dexter, Florida - It might not be with their first draft pick, but I think the Browns will still want to draft a defensive lineman on Day 2. NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein tabbed Dexter with a grade that ranks him as "an above-average backup," which could still be an upgrade for a Browns interior D-Line that ranked near the bottom of the league last year. A team like the Browns looking to improve their run defense could be intrigued by his massive 6-foot-6, 310-pound frame.
Jason Gibbs
First mock draft of the year, and it's a weird one not having to guess anything in the first round…yet (I'm sure Poisal will eventually lead us down that path). Three biggest needs for the Browns in my eyes heading into free agency aren't really a surprise to anyone: defensive end, defensive tackle and ride Receiver. For me, it's all about accruing weapons for Deshaun Watson. Look at another team in our division — the Bengals are all about putting playmakers around Joe Burrow. I feel like the Browns need to do the same for Watson. You can never have enough.
Round 2 (No. 42)
WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati - Probably a wish at this point after his combine, but hey, a man can dream can't he? Our friend Dane Brugler from The Athletic compares him to Tyler Lockett. Outstanding speed, a great route runner and, most importantly, he's a northeast Ohio kid from Norton who knows how to play in the weather. He didn't play out of the slot much in college, which could be a concern, but if that's his biggest flaw… Sign. Me. Up.
Round 3 (No. 98)
EDGE Zach Harrison, THE Ohio State University - If the Browns don't go defense at pick 42, I think they look to improve that side of the ball here in the third round, but not necessarily at DT. I think they bolster that DE room with the addition of Harrison from the Buckeyes. Harrison turned heads with his combine weigh-in process landing in the 99th percentile for arm length and wingspan. To play edge in the NFL you have to have length at the position and Harrison has it. The biggest question for him and the Browns: Will he still be there this late in the round? Remember, the Browns have multiple picks in the fourth and fifth round if they want to try and move up. Plenty of Day 3 assets to throw around.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
2023 ClevelandBrowns.com Mock Draft 1.0
Anthony Poisal and Jason Gibbs make their predictions for who the Browns might select with their first two draft picks
Mar 10, 2023 at 09:01 AMWe're 48 days away from Day 1 of the NFL Draft — and 47 days away from when the Browns are slated to make their first pick of the draft at No. 42 overall.
The Browns don't have a first-round pick but will still likely need to select a player in Round 2 capable of making an immediate difference, and that pick has widely been projected by draft analysts to be spent toward a defensive linemen or wide receiver. Their second pick will come at No. 98 overall in the third round and could also be used at those positions, too.
The first mock draft from ClevelandBrowns.com with staff writer Anthony Poisal and radio producer Jason Gibbs follows those mock trends. We'll check back a few more times before the draft begins and find out next week how the free agency shuffle might affect the Browns' draft needs.
Anthony Poisal
Round 2 (No. 42)
WR Josh Downs, UNC - I think the Browns should take care of their needs at defensive line in free agency, where it should be much easier to find instant-impact players rather than taking a chance at finding a starter with a Day 2 rookie. They should have an easier time, however, finding a speedy receiver at this point of the draft who can immediately be inserted into the lineup and help them stretch opposing defenses. That's what a player like Downs can offer. It's far from a guarantee — but far from impossible — he'll still be available this late in the draft, but the Browns need to add another talented receiver and deep-ball threat for Deshaun Watson, and Downs meets the criteria.
Round 3 (No. 98)
DT Gervon Dexter, Florida - It might not be with their first draft pick, but I think the Browns will still want to draft a defensive lineman on Day 2. NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein tabbed Dexter with a grade that ranks him as "an above-average backup," which could still be an upgrade for a Browns interior D-Line that ranked near the bottom of the league last year. A team like the Browns looking to improve their run defense could be intrigued by his massive 6-foot-6, 310-pound frame.
Jason Gibbs
First mock draft of the year, and it's a weird one not having to guess anything in the first round…yet (I'm sure Poisal will eventually lead us down that path). Three biggest needs for the Browns in my eyes heading into free agency aren't really a surprise to anyone: defensive end, defensive tackle and ride Receiver. For me, it's all about accruing weapons for Deshaun Watson. Look at another team in our division — the Bengals are all about putting playmakers around Joe Burrow. I feel like the Browns need to do the same for Watson. You can never have enough.
Round 2 (No. 42)
WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati - Probably a wish at this point after his combine, but hey, a man can dream can't he? Our friend Dane Brugler from The Athletic compares him to Tyler Lockett. Outstanding speed, a great route runner and, most importantly, he's a northeast Ohio kid from Norton who knows how to play in the weather. He didn't play out of the slot much in college, which could be a concern, but if that's his biggest flaw… Sign. Me. Up.
Round 3 (No. 98)
EDGE Zach Harrison, THE Ohio State University - If the Browns don't go defense at pick 42, I think they look to improve that side of the ball here in the third round, but not necessarily at DT. I think they bolster that DE room with the addition of Harrison from the Buckeyes. Harrison turned heads with his combine weigh-in process landing in the 99th percentile for arm length and wingspan. To play edge in the NFL you have to have length at the position and Harrison has it. The biggest question for him and the Browns: Will he still be there this late in the round? Remember, the Browns have multiple picks in the fourth and fifth round if they want to try and move up. Plenty of Day 3 assets to throw around.
"Remember, the Browns have multiple picks in the fourth and fifth round if they want to try and move up. Plenty of Day 3 assets to throw around."
To me this is the real key unless we get those needed areas fully filled in FA.
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To me this is the real key unless we get those needed areas fully filled in FA.
You had me thinking, did I REALLY say just say something that smart?
Then I saw that it came from the cut and paste I shared. Almost!!!!
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To me this is the real key unless we get those needed areas fully filled in FA.
I could see the Browns making an Amari Cooper-style trade again if they can swing it with the newly developed cap space.
I have a hard time believing this front office and coaching staff feels super comfortable with their career footing here in Cleveland, and if they can get another established vet for a draft pick in a need spot, I think they'll do it.
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I am increasingly convinced we draft a WR in the 2nd. Considering the depth this year, we could still land a stud.
Cooper won't stay great forever, and with DPJ in his final year, getting a #2 who can grow into #1 would make a lot of sense to me.
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Final Four WR's...
2nd to 4th round grades
Interesting Gumbs! I don't like ANY Northcutt clones that weigh in the 170s for anything other than a return specialist. Take that with a grain of salt though since it's only me saying that with very, very limited time spent on researching prospects so far. I REALLY like seeing Parker Washington has a compact 5'10" frame at 204 lbs with strength of 16 reps so it looks like we could line him up on the line of scrimmage when/if necessary.
I know you have a lot of familiarity with the local guys you see in the Carolinas and ACC. If you're like me, you'd like to see your local studs end up with Cleveland. EDIT: I just cut and pasted 2nd and 3rd round mock drafts (in the next post) from 2 guys with Clevelandbrowns.com where 1 has the Browns drafting Josh Brown in round 2 and a DL in round 3. If you had your choice, would you go with the Carolina Kid or the better RAS if it came down to Mingo or Downs? I get the feeling there's a little James Taylor vibe working here - "In my mind I'm gone to Carolina..."
I REALLY like seeing Parker Washington has a compact 5'10" frame at 204 lbs with strength of 16 reps so it looks like we could line him up on the line of scrimmage when/if necessary.
I know you have a lot of familiarity with the local guys you see in the Carolinas and ACC. If you're like me, you'd like to see your local studs end up with Cleveland. EDIT: I just cut and pasted 2nd and 3rd round mock drafts (in the next post) from 2 guys with Clevelandbrowns.com where 1 has the Browns drafting Josh Brown in round 2 and a DL in round 3. If you had your choice, would you go with the Carolina Kid or the better RAS if it came down to Mingo or Downs? I get the feeling there's a little James Taylor vibe working here - "In my mind I'm gone to Carolina..."
Hey Flug,
If I had a choice? If the RAS website was not a sorry site to compare players( it shows some, than not some), it would have been a 6 pack of WR's.. Zay Flowers vs AT Perry's RAS would not compare.. The best fit for the Browns imo?
1. Marvin Mims Oklahoma. 5'10 183/ speed/twitch .. 40 time 4.38.3-Cone 6.90.. don't think he gets to us at pick 40's?
2a). Zay Flowers BC (climate ready) 5'10 182 lbs. best WR in ACC/imo.. Josh Downs had a QB/not Flowers/ just get the ball in his radius area code..deep threat with twitch/yac is a browns need..finished his career as BC's all-time leader in career receptions (200), career receiving yards (3,056) and career receiving touchdowns (29).
2b.).. Parker Washington 5' 10" 204lbs.. pending pro day.. Zay or Parker?.. I'd be thrilled with either.. could not choose even when Parker's ankle injury happened.. You don't find many 5'10 college WR's like Parker with over 10" hands.. drops nothing & climate ready
4. Jonathan Mingo.. thick w/AJ Brown speed & durability..a 4.46 40 at 6'1" 220lbs..
5. Josh Downs.. 5'9 171 lbs. soaking wet.. 40 of 4.48.. good 10 split, if not jammed at 5 yrds. I lost money watching Josh drop balls in ACC champ game.. clearly, still not over it
.. pushed Mingo ahead
6. AT Perry Wake Forest.. 6'3 198 lbs.. big target, that plays faster than his 40 of 4.47.. smooth routes & gets open
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
I REALLY like seeing Parker Washington has a compact 5'10" frame at 204 lbs with strength of 16 reps so it looks like we could line him up on the line of scrimmage when/if necessary.
I know you have a lot of familiarity with the local guys you see in the Carolinas and ACC. If you're like me, you'd like to see your local studs end up with Cleveland. EDIT: I just cut and pasted 2nd and 3rd round mock drafts (in the next post) from 2 guys with Clevelandbrowns.com where 1 has the Browns drafting Josh Brown in round 2 and a DL in round 3. If you had your choice, would you go with the Carolina Kid or the better RAS if it came down to Mingo or Downs? I get the feeling there's a little James Taylor vibe working here - "In my mind I'm gone to Carolina..."
Hey Flug,
If I had a choice? If the RAS website was not a sorry site to compare players( it shows some, than not some), it would have been a 6 pack of WR's.. Zay Flowers vs AT Perry's RAS would not compare.. The best fit for the Browns imo?
1. Marvin Mims Oklahoma. 5'10 183/ speed/twitch .. 40 time 4.38.3-Cone 6.90.. don't think he gets to us at pick 40's?
2a). Zay Flowers BC (climate ready) 5'10 182 lbs. best WR in ACC/imo.. Josh Downs had a QB/not Flowers/ just get the ball in his radius area code..deep threat with twitch/yac is a browns need..finished his career as BC's all-time leader in career receptions (200), career receiving yards (3,056) and career receiving touchdowns (29).
2b.).. Parker Washington 5' 10" 204lbs.. pending pro day.. Zay or Parker?.. I'd be thrilled with either.. could not choose even when Parker's ankle injury happened.. You don't find many 5'10 college WR's like Parker with over 10" hands.. drops nothing & climate ready
4. Jonathan Mingo.. thick w/AJ Brown speed & durability..a 4.46 40 at 6'1" 220lbs..
5. Josh Downs.. 5'9 171 lbs. soaking wet.. 40 of 4.48.. good 10 split, if not jammed at 5 yrds. I lost money watching Josh drop balls in ACC champ game.. clearly, still not over it
.. pushed Mingo ahead
6. AT Perry Wake Forest.. 6'3 198 lbs.. big target, that plays faster than his 40 of 4.47.. smooth routes & gets open
Hey Flug,
If I had a choice? If the RAS website was not a sorry site to compare players( it shows some, than not some), it would have been a 6 pack of WR's.. Zay Flowers vs AT Perry's RAS would not compare.. The best fit for the Browns imo?
1. Marvin Mims Oklahoma. 5'10 183/ speed/twitch .. 40 time 4.38.3-Cone 6.90.. don't think he gets to us at pick 40's?
2a). Zay Flowers BC (climate ready) 5'10 182 lbs. best WR in ACC/imo.. Josh Downs had a QB/not Flowers/ just get the ball in his radius area code..deep threat with twitch/yac is a browns need..finished his career as BC's all-time leader in career receptions (200), career receiving yards (3,056) and career receiving touchdowns (29).
2b.).. Parker Washington 5' 10" 204lbs.. pending pro day.. Zay or Parker?.. I'd be thrilled with either.. could not choose even when Parker's ankle injury happened.. You don't find many 5'10 college WR's like Parker with over 10" hands.. drops nothing & climate ready
4. Jonathan Mingo.. thick w/AJ Brown speed & durability..a 4.46 40 at 6'1" 220lbs..
5. Josh Downs.. 5'9 171 lbs. soaking wet.. 40 of 4.48.. good 10 split, if not jammed at 5 yrds. I lost money watching Josh drop balls in ACC champ game.. clearly, still not over it
.. pushed Mingo ahead
6. AT Perry Wake Forest.. 6'3 198 lbs.. big target, that plays faster than his 40 of 4.47.. smooth routes & gets open
Thanks for the list and the write-up Gumbs! Well done. I'm hearing a lot of good stuff about Zay Flowers.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I REALLY like seeing Parker Washington has a compact 5'10" frame at 204 lbs with strength of 16 reps so it looks like we could line him up on the line of scrimmage when/if necessary.
I know you have a lot of familiarity with the local guys you see in the Carolinas and ACC. If you're like me, you'd like to see your local studs end up with Cleveland. EDIT: I just cut and pasted 2nd and 3rd round mock drafts (in the next post) from 2 guys with Clevelandbrowns.com where 1 has the Browns drafting Josh Brown in round 2 and a DL in round 3. If you had your choice, would you go with the Carolina Kid or the better RAS if it came down to Mingo or Downs? I get the feeling there's a little James Taylor vibe working here - "In my mind I'm gone to Carolina..."
Hey Flug,
If I had a choice? If the RAS website was not a sorry site to compare players( it shows some, than not some), it would have been a 6 pack of WR's.. Zay Flowers vs AT Perry's RAS would not compare.. The best fit for the Browns imo?
1. Marvin Mims Oklahoma. 5'10 183/ speed/twitch .. 40 time 4.38.3-Cone 6.90.. don't think he gets to us at pick 40's?
2a). Zay Flowers BC (climate ready) 5'10 182 lbs. best WR in ACC/imo.. Josh Downs had a QB/not Flowers/ just get the ball in his radius area code..deep threat with twitch/yac is a browns need..finished his career as BC's all-time leader in career receptions (200), career receiving yards (3,056) and career receiving touchdowns (29).
2b.).. Parker Washington 5' 10" 204lbs.. pending pro day.. Zay or Parker?.. I'd be thrilled with either.. could not choose even when Parker's ankle injury happened.. You don't find many 5'10 college WR's like Parker with over 10" hands.. drops nothing & climate ready
4. Jonathan Mingo.. thick w/AJ Brown speed & durability..a 4.46 40 at 6'1" 220lbs..
5. Josh Downs.. 5'9 171 lbs. soaking wet.. 40 of 4.48.. good 10 split, if not jammed at 5 yrds. I lost money watching Josh drop balls in ACC champ game.. clearly, still not over it
.. pushed Mingo ahead
6. AT Perry Wake Forest.. 6'3 198 lbs.. big target, that plays faster than his 40 of 4.47.. smooth routes & gets open
Hey Flug,
If I had a choice? If the RAS website was not a sorry site to compare players( it shows some, than not some), it would have been a 6 pack of WR's.. Zay Flowers vs AT Perry's RAS would not compare.. The best fit for the Browns imo?
1. Marvin Mims Oklahoma. 5'10 183/ speed/twitch .. 40 time 4.38.3-Cone 6.90.. don't think he gets to us at pick 40's?
2a). Zay Flowers BC (climate ready) 5'10 182 lbs. best WR in ACC/imo.. Josh Downs had a QB/not Flowers/ just get the ball in his radius area code..deep threat with twitch/yac is a browns need..finished his career as BC's all-time leader in career receptions (200), career receiving yards (3,056) and career receiving touchdowns (29).
2b.).. Parker Washington 5' 10" 204lbs.. pending pro day.. Zay or Parker?.. I'd be thrilled with either.. could not choose even when Parker's ankle injury happened.. You don't find many 5'10 college WR's like Parker with over 10" hands.. drops nothing & climate ready
4. Jonathan Mingo.. thick w/AJ Brown speed & durability..a 4.46 40 at 6'1" 220lbs..
5. Josh Downs.. 5'9 171 lbs. soaking wet.. 40 of 4.48.. good 10 split, if not jammed at 5 yrds. I lost money watching Josh drop balls in ACC champ game.. clearly, still not over it
.. pushed Mingo ahead
6. AT Perry Wake Forest.. 6'3 198 lbs.. big target, that plays faster than his 40 of 4.47.. smooth routes & gets open
What no "Bobble" Boutte WR LSU for you??
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I still think the draft is about BPA.
That said, needs do come in to play. I think needs and BPA will joint for us this year and a receiver will be the selection in round 2. There are several receivers who should be available that will fall in to a grouping of players from which we can choose.
By that I mean you can probably make a nice, neat list of the top 10-15 players, but after that groups of players begin to grade out the same, or close enough to allow some flexibility in your choice.
The wildcard is if somebody starts to fall. At that point you probably just need to take the guy and readjust your draft plans.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
I still think the draft is about BPA.
That said, needs do come in to play. I think needs and BPA will joint for us this year and a receiver will be the selection in round 2. There are several receivers who should be available that will fall in to a grouping of players from which we can choose.
By that I mean you can probably make a nice, neat list of the top 10-15 players, but after that groups of players begin to grade out the same, or close enough to allow some flexibility in your choice.
The wildcard is if somebody starts to fall. At that point you probably just need to take the guy and readjust your draft plans.
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Seems like there are a few every year.
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I still think the draft is about BPA.
That said, needs do come in to play. I think needs and BPA will joint for us this year and a receiver will be the selection in round 2. There are several receivers who should be available that will fall in to a grouping of players from which we can choose.
By that I mean you can probably make a nice, neat list of the top 10-15 players, but after that groups of players begin to grade out the same, or close enough to allow some flexibility in your choice.
The wildcard is if somebody starts to fall. At that point you probably just need to take the guy and readjust your draft plans.
I still think the draft is about BPA.
That said, needs do come in to play. I think needs and BPA will joint for us this year and a receiver will be the selection in round 2. There are several receivers who should be available that will fall in to a grouping of players from which we can choose.
By that I mean you can probably make a nice, neat list of the top 10-15 players, but after that groups of players begin to grade out the same, or close enough to allow some flexibility in your choice.
The wildcard is if somebody starts to fall. At that point you probably just need to take the guy and readjust your draft plans.
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Hey Flug,
If I had a choice? If the RAS website was not a sorry site to compare players( it shows some, than not some), it would have been a 6 pack of WR's.. Zay Flowers vs AT Perry's RAS would not compare.. The best fit for the Browns imo?
1. Marvin Mims Oklahoma. 5'10 183/ speed/twitch .. 40 time 4.38.3-Cone 6.90.. don't think he gets to us at pick 40's?
2a). Zay Flowers BC (climate ready) 5'10 182 lbs. best WR in ACC/imo.. Josh Downs had a QB/not Flowers/ just get the ball in his radius area code..deep threat with twitch/yac is a browns need..finished his career as BC's all-time leader in career receptions (200), career receiving yards (3,056) and career receiving touchdowns (29).
2b.).. Parker Washington 5' 10" 204lbs.. pending pro day.. Zay or Parker?.. I'd be thrilled with either.. could not choose even when Parker's ankle injury happened.. You don't find many 5'10 college WR's like Parker with over 10" hands.. drops nothing & climate ready
4. Jonathan Mingo.. thick w/AJ Brown speed & durability..a 4.46 40 at 6'1" 220lbs..
5. Josh Downs.. 5'9 171 lbs. soaking wet.. 40 of 4.48.. good 10 split, if not jammed at 5 yrds. I lost money watching Josh drop balls in ACC champ game.. clearly, still not over it
.. pushed Mingo ahead
6. AT Perry Wake Forest.. 6'3 198 lbs.. big target, that plays faster than his 40 of 4.47.. smooth routes & gets open
Thanks for the list and the write-up Gumbs! Well done. I'm hearing a lot of good stuff about Zay Flowers.
I'm hearing a lot of good stuff about Zay Flowers.
What no "Bobble" Boutte WR LSU for you??
No ! hard Pass ! ^^
Fans or not fans of Panthers/Ravens WR Steve Smith Sr..
Youtube Steve Smith Sr. Cut to it breakdowns of this seasons WR class ?..
Example.... Zay Flowers..
insane out route cuts all over his game-tape
I'm starting to lose hope Zay Flowers gets to the 2nd Round ?No thanks to #89 Smitty
Morning Taps & Happy St. Patty Friday ?
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I'm hearing a lot of good stuff about Zay Flowers.
What no "Bobble" Boutte WR LSU for you??
No ! hard Pass ! ^^
Fans or not fans of Panthers/Ravens WR Steve Smith Sr..
Youtube Steve Smith Sr. Cut to it breakdowns of this seasons WR class ?..
Example.... Zay Flowers..
insane out route cuts all over his game-tape
I'm starting to lose hope Zay Flowers gets to the 2nd Round ?No thanks to #89 Smitty
Morning Taps & Happy St. Patty Friday ?
No ! hard Pass ! ^^
Fans or not fans of Panthers/Ravens WR Steve Smith Sr..
Youtube Steve Smith Sr. Cut to it breakdowns of this seasons WR class ?..
Example.... Zay Flowers..
insane out route cuts all over his game-tape
I'm starting to lose hope Zay Flowers gets to the 2nd Round ?
Morning Taps & Happy St. Patty Friday ?
Backatchya Gumbs! ?
Yeah, you're probably right; but there's a lot of intriguing WR prospects that can help us at #42 (and later believe it or not). The Chiefs don't have to be the only team capable of finding a guy like Tyreek Hill in round 5 do they? Every draft rewards teams that do their homework/research beyond the first few rounds. This one won't be any different. Once upon a time we landed Brian Brennan in round 4 (in 84); and Elizabeth City State's Reggie Langhorne in round 7 (in 85). These were productive receivers on our playoff teams that erased so many 4th quarter deficits they were called the Kardiac Kids. Luck of the find rewards the diligence of the search IMO.
I'd love to see us add a good change of direction guy. I think this is what our WR Corps lack more than anything.
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