2023 Off-Season Free Agent moves/signings
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This coincides with Draftek. Which means his value is 3rd pick in the 3rd round. (Jets drafted him with pick 34)
I look at it this way, we gave up pick #42 for this guy. His stats with the Jets aren't great or anything...he's 5' 10" @ 178 lb., which is smurf-like. (he's a Brown now, so he's Elf-like) He caught 56% of his targets with the Jets. I dunno...I'm not sure that Elijah is our WR savior. I'm crossing my fingers.
Now where does this leave us at LB'er? Pick 74?
I don't think he is being looked at as a savior. Just a new addition to a new O.
We have to remember we brought in Bill Musgrave. He has a strong background with the WCO. It isn't as heavy on the vertical and employs a vertical component. Moore is well suited to the horizontal game. He has plenty of speed, but more important is he is elite when it come to quick burst. He can get open quickly, something I feel we have lacked. He has also shown the ability to find the soft spots in a zone.
Obviously much depends on how he is used but I can see him catching near 80 balls this season. YAC is going dictate his yardage because he probably isn't going to be running a lot of fly routes as his primary role. He will work the horizontal routes
more important is he is elite when it come to quick burst. He can get open quickly, something I feel we have lacked.
Right. We haven't had the Wes Welker / Eddleman type that can catch 10 balls a game. We DO need someone that you can count on to get open. - savior was a reference to the biblical character...rye humor
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more important is he is elite when it come to quick burst. He can get open quickly, something I feel we have lacked.
Right. We haven't had the Wes Welker / Eddleman type that can catch 10 balls a game. We DO need someone that you can count on to get open. - savior was a reference to the biblical character...rye humor
Right. We haven't had the Wes Welker / Eddleman type that can catch 10 balls a game. We DO need someone that you can count on to get open. - savior was a reference to the biblical character...rye humor
ah. NOW we MUST HAVE a wr who can GET OPEN?
GREAT !!! LOL.
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ah. NOW we MUST HAVE a wr who can GET OPEN?
GREAT !!! LOL.
This gripe still loses me...
What's your WR corp grade when Baker had OBJ/ Landry & DPJ ? No one can project they'd all get injured..
I still can't admit Baker would be more accurate than Burrow, if Bake played with the Bengals WR corp..
Bake's simply, not Joe Burrow at hitting fast moving targets
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They are far from being dangerous... We don't have Cincy's WR corp.. Temper the enthusiasm dude...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
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Maurice Hurst, Trysten Hill, and Dalvin to go along with Winfrey and another one on PS could make for a decent IDL.. if the dice rolls work. Hurst may be the PS guy - he played only 40 snaps in 2021 and zero last season, he could be done. Hill is a former second-round pick who busted with the Cowboys and couldn't do anything with the Cards last season.. he could also be a zero as well. Those two appear to be the 2023 roll-the-dice signings like last season's Malik McDowell.. IMHO these guys are brought to compete with TT and Elliot and may just turn out to be camp bodies.
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Maurice Hurst, Trysten Hill, and Dalvin to go along with Winfrey and another one on PS could make for a decent IDL.. if the dice rolls work. Hurst may be the PS guy - he played only 40 snaps in 2021 and zero last season, he could be done. Hill is a former second-round pick who busted with the Cowboys and couldn't do anything with the Cards last season.. he could also be a zero as well. Those two appear to be the 2023 roll-the-dice signings like last season's Malik McDowell.. IMHO these guys are brought to compete with TT and Elliot and may just turn out to be camp bodies.
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
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They are far from being dangerous... We don't have Cincy's QB situation.. Temper the enthusiasm dude...
Went ahead and fixed it for you.
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Went ahead and fixed it for you.
No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
This link should give you an idea. It at least gives CBS sports top 100 FA and shows who is still unsigned. I am sure there are some guys outside the top 100, but then you are starting to select more for potential rather than NFL achievement.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
As lucrative as your music career is, apparently.
I'll be heading up to Cleveland next week. Per your suggestion to someone before, I'll ask random musicians if they've heard of you. I think my opener will be: "Hey Mr. or Ms. Random Cleveland Musician, are you familiar with a racist sack of shit that looks like Flounder from the movie 'Animal House' who plays one mean guitar in his mother's basement?"
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honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
This link should give you an idea. It at least gives CBS sports top 100 FA and shows who is still unsigned. I am sure there are some guys outside the top 100, but then you are starting to select more for potential rather than NFL achievement.
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Let's sign the Washington DT. That defensive front of theirs is a difficult group to operate against. $$$ no object
Speaking of WSH DT's, wonder what CAR would want for Matt Ioannidis on a cheaper 2 year deal?
edit: @gumby73 beat me to it above and I skimmed the page too fast, my bad. Still, sounds like the right idea to me. But I'm still of the belief we could see a day 2 IDL in the draft.
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No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
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No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
We were on topic... I was bustin your balls a bit... Secondly.,.. You don't own this site.. Or this thread... All you did was author it... After that... In my eyes Digressing and anything else that comes along is fair game... Be a man... Grow a pair and quit acting like a Karen ... Have a nice day..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
We were on topic... I was bustin your balls a bit... Secondly.,.. You don't own this site.. Or this thread... All you did was author it... After that... In my eyes Digressing and anything else that comes along is fair game... Be a man... Grow a pair and quit acting like a Karen ... Have a nice day..
We were on topic... I was bustin your balls a bit... Secondly.,.. You don't own this site.. Or this thread... All you did was author it... After that... In my eyes Digressing and anything else that comes along is fair game... Be a man... Grow a pair and quit acting like a Karen ... Have a nice day..
Why do.... you feel the.... need to write in.... such a weird.... way?
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honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
i was reading a pluto article this morning and he said we have 10 million left to spend and as of june 1st we get another 9 million
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Let's sign the Washington DT. That defensive front of theirs is a difficult group to operate against. $$$ no object
Speaking of WSH DT's, wonder what CAR would want for Matt Ioannidis on a cheaper 2 year deal?
edit: @gumby73 beat me to it above and I skimmed the page too fast, my bad. Still, sounds like the right idea to me. But I'm still of the belief we could see a day 2 IDL in the draft.
Speaking of WSH DT's, wonder what CAR would want for Matt Ioannidis on a cheaper 2 year deal?
edit: @gumby73 beat me to it above and I skimmed the page too fast, my bad. Still, sounds like the right idea to me. But I'm still of the belief we could see a day 2 IDL in the draft.
Both ideas are OK. We would have a bunch of bodies to choose from which in theory would increase the odds we would improve the room.
When we get to the draft part, I am fine with that, but we are at a point I think we need to make sure it fits the BPA mold.
Note when I say BPA, at that point in the draft it's hard to separate various players, so we will have a choice that would meet BPA requirements. As long as we draft guys who have a chance to make and improve the team, what position they play makes little difference to me. In this draft, the guys we draft may not be a need today, but they might in a few years.
An example would be back. Chubbs days are numbered. We have Ford, but not much young after that. When you examine berry's drafts, in some cases he seems to be drafted a year ahead of what he sees as a future need. Ford last year is a prime example. He knew that we were probably going to move from Hunt. It works out we may still keep him, but last year we were thinking he was going to command a contract larger than we would be willing to offer. Now....we may just keep him.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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