2023 Off-Season Free Agent moves/signings
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Maurice Hurst, Trysten Hill, and Dalvin to go along with Winfrey and another one on PS could make for a decent IDL.. if the dice rolls work. Hurst may be the PS guy - he played only 40 snaps in 2021 and zero last season, he could be done. Hill is a former second-round pick who busted with the Cowboys and couldn't do anything with the Cards last season.. he could also be a zero as well. Those two appear to be the 2023 roll-the-dice signings like last season's Malik McDowell.. IMHO these guys are brought to compete with TT and Elliot and may just turn out to be camp bodies.
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Maurice Hurst, Trysten Hill, and Dalvin to go along with Winfrey and another one on PS could make for a decent IDL.. if the dice rolls work. Hurst may be the PS guy - he played only 40 snaps in 2021 and zero last season, he could be done. Hill is a former second-round pick who busted with the Cowboys and couldn't do anything with the Cards last season.. he could also be a zero as well. Those two appear to be the 2023 roll-the-dice signings like last season's Malik McDowell.. IMHO these guys are brought to compete with TT and Elliot and may just turn out to be camp bodies.
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
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They are far from being dangerous... We don't have Cincy's QB situation.. Temper the enthusiasm dude...
Went ahead and fixed it for you.
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Went ahead and fixed it for you.
No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
This link should give you an idea. It at least gives CBS sports top 100 FA and shows who is still unsigned. I am sure there are some guys outside the top 100, but then you are starting to select more for potential rather than NFL achievement.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Don't be shocked if IDL is still a pick in round 3 and Winfrey is the second starter.
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
As lucrative as your music career is, apparently.
I'll be heading up to Cleveland next week. Per your suggestion to someone before, I'll ask random musicians if they've heard of you. I think my opener will be: "Hey Mr. or Ms. Random Cleveland Musician, are you familiar with a racist sack of shit that looks like Flounder from the movie 'Animal House' who plays one mean guitar in his mother's basement?"
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honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
This link should give you an idea. It at least gives CBS sports top 100 FA and shows who is still unsigned. I am sure there are some guys outside the top 100, but then you are starting to select more for potential rather than NFL achievement.
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Let's sign the Washington DT. That defensive front of theirs is a difficult group to operate against. $$$ no object
Speaking of WSH DT's, wonder what CAR would want for Matt Ioannidis on a cheaper 2 year deal?
edit: @gumby73 beat me to it above and I skimmed the page too fast, my bad. Still, sounds like the right idea to me. But I'm still of the belief we could see a day 2 IDL in the draft.
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No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
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No shit Sherlock... Got anything else brilliant to pump out Mr.Genius?... Your scouting job with the NFL must be real lucrative that you can spend so much time here , Know it all..
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
We were on topic... I was bustin your balls a bit... Secondly.,.. You don't own this site.. Or this thread... All you did was author it... After that... In my eyes Digressing and anything else that comes along is fair game... Be a man... Grow a pair and quit acting like a Karen ... Have a nice day..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
My comment was meant to be cheeky, nothing more. No reason to take it that far.
Your mentioning of the CIN WR's corps, while they are good, isn't what sets them apart from us. So the comment was a bit short sighted and I pointed out what the real difference was. However you forget that the Browns have a superior Oline, RB, TE and DB situation in comparison. When Chase was out, the Browns DB's and pass rush was up to the task of winning the day. So was that youtube video a good bit of hyperbole? Sure. Was it entirely inaccurate? No.
Let's stay on topic in my threads. Thanks.
We were on topic... I was bustin your balls a bit... Secondly.,.. You don't own this site.. Or this thread... All you did was author it... After that... In my eyes Digressing and anything else that comes along is fair game... Be a man... Grow a pair and quit acting like a Karen ... Have a nice day..
We were on topic... I was bustin your balls a bit... Secondly.,.. You don't own this site.. Or this thread... All you did was author it... After that... In my eyes Digressing and anything else that comes along is fair game... Be a man... Grow a pair and quit acting like a Karen ... Have a nice day..
Why do.... you feel the.... need to write in.... such a weird.... way?
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honestly I have no idea who is left in free agency for IDL could be we are eyeing someone after the draft when the price normally comes down
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
i was reading a pluto article this morning and he said we have 10 million left to spend and as of june 1st we get another 9 million
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Let's sign the Washington DT. That defensive front of theirs is a difficult group to operate against. $$$ no object
Speaking of WSH DT's, wonder what CAR would want for Matt Ioannidis on a cheaper 2 year deal?
edit: @gumby73 beat me to it above and I skimmed the page too fast, my bad. Still, sounds like the right idea to me. But I'm still of the belief we could see a day 2 IDL in the draft.
Speaking of WSH DT's, wonder what CAR would want for Matt Ioannidis on a cheaper 2 year deal?
edit: @gumby73 beat me to it above and I skimmed the page too fast, my bad. Still, sounds like the right idea to me. But I'm still of the belief we could see a day 2 IDL in the draft.
Both ideas are OK. We would have a bunch of bodies to choose from which in theory would increase the odds we would improve the room.
When we get to the draft part, I am fine with that, but we are at a point I think we need to make sure it fits the BPA mold.
Note when I say BPA, at that point in the draft it's hard to separate various players, so we will have a choice that would meet BPA requirements. As long as we draft guys who have a chance to make and improve the team, what position they play makes little difference to me. In this draft, the guys we draft may not be a need today, but they might in a few years.
An example would be back. Chubbs days are numbered. We have Ford, but not much young after that. When you examine berry's drafts, in some cases he seems to be drafted a year ahead of what he sees as a future need. Ford last year is a prime example. He knew that we were probably going to move from Hunt. It works out we may still keep him, but last year we were thinking he was going to command a contract larger than we would be willing to offer. Now....we may just keep him.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
names I keep seeing are..
Matt Ioannidis/Frank Clark/*Calais Campbell/ to pricey with some *injury risk imo
Poona Ford or A'Shawn Robinson (age 28) may fit a cap of 8M left..Teams pending market/draft
The ageing swing T George Fant maybe a mid/low cost band-aide at Tackle?
Draft slots projected to cost 1.2M.
LB has names left of.. while most played OLB
- LB RASHAAN EVANS played w/Schwartz at Tenn., might be $$
- LB BEN NIEMANN
- LB JAYLON SMITH
i was reading a pluto article this morning and he said we have 10 million left to spend and as of june 1st we get another 9 million
i was reading a pluto article this morning and he said we have 10 million left to spend and as of june 1st we get another 9 million
No doubt we still have room. That doesn't mean we want to spend it all and want to roll some over, not knowing everything there is to know about expiring contracts etc. Berry thinks about that more than we do, so who knows what might be the plan?
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i was reading a pluto article this morning and he said we have 10 million left to spend and as of june 1st we get another 9 million
No doubt we still have room. That doesn't mean we want to spend it all and want to roll some over, not knowing everything there is to know about expiring contracts etc. Berry thinks about that more than we do, so who knows what might be the plan?
No doubt we still have room. That doesn't mean we want to spend it all and want to roll some over, not knowing everything there is to know about expiring contracts etc. Berry thinks about that more than we do, so who knows what might be the plan?
i believe if we do pull the trigger on another name F.A it will not happen untill after the draft
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No doubt we still have room. That doesn't mean we want to spend it all and want to roll some over, not knowing everything there is to know about expiring contracts etc. Berry thinks about that more than we do, so who knows what might be the plan?
i believe if we do pull the trigger on another name F.A it will not happen untill after the draft
i believe if we do pull the trigger on another name F.A it will not happen untill after the draft
I agree. Any real names at this point will be June 1 guys. After that, maybe a guy here or there on 1 year show me deals. Locally, the biggest name we might sign would be Hunt, but only after he has exhausted all other options.
It wouldn't surprise me if we already have an open ended offer on the table for him that is good until at least the day before the draft. Like saying: "Here is our best offer. It is good until such and such a date. If it works, welcome back, if you find better, thanks and best of luck, we understand". Part of me wants to say we have something like that for Clowney, but there may be a little too much burnt wood on that bridge to be repaired.
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i believe if we do pull the trigger on another name F.A it will not happen untill after the draft
I agree. Any real names at this point will be June 1 guys. After that, maybe a guy here or there on 1 year show me deals. Locally, the biggest name we might sign would be Hunt, but only after he has exhausted all other options.
It wouldn't surprise me if we already have an open ended offer on the table for him that is good until at least the day before the draft. Like saying: "Here is our best offer. It is good until such and such a date. If it works, welcome back, if you find better, thanks and best of luck, we understand". Part of me wants to say we have something like that for Clowney, but there may be a little too much burnt wood on that bridge to be repaired.
I agree. Any real names at this point will be June 1 guys. After that, maybe a guy here or there on 1 year show me deals. Locally, the biggest name we might sign would be Hunt, but only after he has exhausted all other options.
It wouldn't surprise me if we already have an open ended offer on the table for him that is good until at least the day before the draft. Like saying: "Here is our best offer. It is good until such and such a date. If it works, welcome back, if you find better, thanks and best of luck, we understand". Part of me wants to say we have something like that for Clowney, but there may be a little too much burnt wood on that bridge to be repaired.
I like hunt always have but i would like to see what we have in ford and clowney ya i think that bridge is burnt
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We will find out about Ford. Probably some rookie as well. I love Chubb and know everybody does, but to me he isn't the ideal back with Watson and the O we will transition towards. Chubb probably won't get another contract with the team and might even be tradable after the season. Maybe even the trade deadline if Ford balls out.
As for Clowney, again, just a part of me. I know it probably won't or shouldn't happen. i just feel he was way under appreciated. He didn't put up the sack totals some hoped for, but the guy could set the edge and backs didn't get around his end unless they dipped way south to get around the guy. I am afraid we are going to miss him.
I'd bet money that Schwartz has said something about the possibilities of getting him back.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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