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  • @bjh2130 said:

    My guess is a lot of buckeye fans will know that 2nd guy.  He was drafted a round ahead of mr. Tillman though

    We have a winner. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    We have a winner. 

    Since you brought it up thinking back about Thomas, watching Tillman's film, and looking at measurables they are eerily similar. I feel like MT had a more polished route tree by a large margin though but could be bias because of the college tie

  • @tiamat63 said:

    We have a winner. 

    Since you brought it up thinking back about Thomas, watching Tillman's film, and looking at measurables they are eerily similar. I feel like MT had a more polished route tree by a large margin though but could be bias because of the college tie

    @bjh2130 said:

    Since you brought it up thinking back about Thomas, watching Tillman's film, and looking at measurables they are eerily similar. I feel like MT had a more polished route tree by a large margin though but could be bias because of the college tie

     The route selection looks strangely similar as well at times.   Yeah, Tillman isn't quite where MT was as a rookie.  But I see the potential that he could one day get there.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    too bad the browns didn't pay attention to the wr group in previous years to help previous quarterbacks. They traded for one, signed one, and now drafted one.

    Don't worry your sweet little heart, if the Bucs running game is anything like it was this past season for Brady, then Baker will have plenty of receivers to disappoint this upcoming season. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Don't worry your sweet little heart, if the Bucs running game is anything like it was this past season for Brady, then Baker will have plenty of receivers to disappoint this upcoming season. 

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Don't worry your sweet little heart, if the Bucs running game is anything like it was this past season for Brady, then Baker will have plenty of receivers to disappoint this upcoming season. 

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

    @calfoxwc said:

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

    fredo im smart.jpeg

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Don't worry your sweet little heart, if the Bucs running game is anything like it was this past season for Brady, then Baker will have plenty of receivers to disappoint this upcoming season. 

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

    @calfoxwc said:

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

    So are you saying they didn't give baker mayfield weapons? Im pretty sure it was said by many pundits leading into the second baker season that the browns had the best weapons with landry obj njoku bryant chubb and hunt. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

    So are you saying they didn't give baker mayfield weapons? Im pretty sure it was said by many pundits leading into the second baker season that the browns had the best weapons with landry obj njoku bryant chubb and hunt. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    So are you saying they didn't give baker mayfield weapons? Im pretty sure it was said by many pundits leading into the second baker season that the browns had the best weapons with landry obj njoku bryant chubb and hunt. 

    I said all the other qbs for the Browns.

  • Brad Congelio 🏈📊🧑‍💻@BradCongelio
    Here is a look at the regular season's "Average Time to Throw vs. Average Receiver Separation."

    PIT, NYJ, and CAR have some of the longest times to throw, but the littlest amount of WR separation. What is going on in those offenses?

    #NFL #NFLTwitter

    look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

    (average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

    r/nfl - The 2022 NFL Average Time to Throw vs Completion Probability

  • @calfoxwc said:

    admit it, ghengis yawn.

    I was right about the wr group, as well as Doug Dieken was right.

    now, even the browns fo knows it. drafted one with their first pick, after trading a second for Moore ( a really good wr) and signing another fa.

      So, that means, ghengis, that you were W_________ . (fill in the blank)

    So are you saying they didn't give baker mayfield weapons? Im pretty sure it was said by many pundits leading into the second baker season that the browns had the best weapons with landry obj njoku bryant chubb and hunt. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    So are you saying they didn't give baker mayfield weapons? Im pretty sure it was said by many pundits leading into the second baker season that the browns had the best weapons with landry obj njoku bryant chubb and hunt. 

    Everything concerning the Browns when it comes to calfox has to do with his unending love for Baker Mayfield, and his inability to ever admit that he's not a franchise QB.

    Don't let him bullshit you that the nonsense he spews isn't exactly that. 

  • Brad Congelio 🏈📊🧑‍💻@BradCongelio
    Here is a look at the regular season's "Average Time to Throw vs. Average Receiver Separation."

    PIT, NYJ, and CAR have some of the longest times to throw, but the littlest amount of WR separation. What is going on in those offenses?

    #NFL #NFLTwitter

    look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

    (average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

    r/nfl - The 2022 NFL Average Time to Throw vs Completion Probability

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://twitter.com/BradCongelio/status/1620147289611468800/photo/1

    look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

    (average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

    Image

    That's obviously a great chart that shows without doubt how good wrs are because when i think elite pass offenses with great wrs that get seperation i think of the chicago bears

  • https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

    Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

    Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

    Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

  • @tiamat63 said:

     I found a source for some all-22 on the vols.  Ceddy's injuries concern me, but I can't help but draw a parallel to another receiver I loved that he just looks like on the field. 

     Here's some hints.

    Ceddy:

    Height Weight Arm length Hand span 40-yard dash 10-yard split 20-yard split Three-cone drill Vertical jump Broad jump
    6 ft 3+3⁄8 in
    (1.91 m)
    213 lb
    (97 kg)
    32+3⁄4 in
    (0.83 m)
    10 in
    (0.25 m)
    4.54 s 1.53 s 2.64 s 7.32 s 37.0 in
    (0.94 m)
    10 ft 8 in
    (3.25 m)

    Mystery receiver.

    Height Weight Arm length Hand span 40-yard dash 10-yard split 20-yard split 20-yard shuttle Three-cone drill Vertical jump Broad jump Bench press
    6 ft 2+3⁄4 in
    (1.90 m)
    212 lb
    (96 kg)
    32+1⁄8 in
    (0.82 m)
    10+1⁄2 in
    (0.27 m)
    4.57 s 1.63 s 2.63 s 4.13 s 6.80 s 35 in
    (0.89 m)
    10 ft 6 in
    (3.20 m)

    Winner gets a cookie.

    My guess is a lot of buckeye fans will know that 2nd guy.  He was drafted a round ahead of mr. Tillman though

    @bjh2130 said:

    My guess is a lot of buckeye fans will know that 2nd guy.  He was drafted a round ahead of mr. Tillman though

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

  • https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

    Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

    Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

    Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

    Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

    Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

    Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

    That is based only on receivers that were targeted so its very possible to assume that maybe the qb was just throwing to the wrong guy..... i can think of quite a few times guys were running wide open but weren't seen and targeted by the qb

  • @bjh2130 said:

    My guess is a lot of buckeye fans will know that 2nd guy.  He was drafted a round ahead of mr. Tillman though

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

    @nickers said:

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

    Why do I have a nagging feeling that genius has no idea who the OP was talking about? 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

    Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

    Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

    Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

    That is based only on receivers that were targeted so its very possible to assume that maybe the qb was just throwing to the wrong guy..... i can think of quite a few times guys were running wide open but weren't seen and targeted by the qb

    @bjh2130 said:

    That is based only on receivers that were targeted so its very possible to assume that maybe the qb was just throwing to the wrong guy..... i can think of quite a few times guys were running wide open but weren't seen and targeted by the qb

    that has happened to a lot of teams - depends on the defense closing in, no time left to throw the ball, running the wrong routes.

    I don't know, just sayin. I've seen it happen to the best teams at times.

  • Brad Congelio 🏈📊🧑‍💻@BradCongelio
    Here is a look at the regular season's "Average Time to Throw vs. Average Receiver Separation."

    PIT, NYJ, and CAR have some of the longest times to throw, but the littlest amount of WR separation. What is going on in those offenses?

    #NFL #NFLTwitter

    look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

    (average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

    r/nfl - The 2022 NFL Average Time to Throw vs Completion Probability

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://twitter.com/BradCongelio/status/1620147289611468800/photo/1

    look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

    (average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

    r/nfl - The 2022 NFL Average Time to Throw vs Completion Probability

    That's average completion probability - NOT separation. 

    Hilariously enough, this chart is SO strangely similar to poor throws under pressure...

    https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/2022-worst-qb-rating-under-pressure#:~:text=Zach Wilson had the worst,2022%2C with a 72.8 rating.

    And overall passer rating for full time starters... 

    https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

    For good measure, also aligns right up there with bad value throw percentage.

    https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/completion-percentage

    I don't think you actually understand what you posted. 

  • @nickers said:

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

    Why do I have a nagging feeling that genius has no idea who the OP was talking about? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Why do I have a nagging feeling that genius has no idea who the OP was talking about? 

    I just assumed maybe he was saying that was guy he wanted drafted back then but you may be right

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://twitter.com/BradCongelio/status/1620147289611468800/photo/1

    look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

    (average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

    r/nfl - The 2022 NFL Average Time to Throw vs Completion Probability

    That's average completion probability - NOT separation. 

    Hilariously enough, this chart is SO strangely similar to poor throws under pressure...

    https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/2022-worst-qb-rating-under-pressure#:~:text=Zach Wilson had the worst,2022%2C with a 72.8 rating.

    And overall passer rating for full time starters... 

    https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

    For good measure, also aligns right up there with bad value throw percentage.

    https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/completion-percentage

    I don't think you actually understand what you posted. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    I don't think you actually understand what you posted. 

    I don't think you understand what a wimpy change of subject you posted.

    tiam: "i'm not wrong, not ever, because uh....because.... the uniforms teams wear are pretty but sometimes they are not"

    that kind of cya. LOL (it's called an analogy)

  • https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

    Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

    Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

    Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

    Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

    Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

    Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    My guess is a lot of buckeye fans will know that 2nd guy.  He was drafted a round ahead of mr. Tillman though

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

    @nickers said:

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

    hey dumbass he only missed 4 games 

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    @nickers said:

    thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

    hey dumbass he only missed 4 games 

    @syd said:

    hey dumbass he only missed 4 games 

    hey dumbass.. No one asked you...