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  • One of my best friends who passed about 15 years ago raved about Jim Brown.   Told stories of watching him.    Then when I saw the film, I understood.   He was dominance personified.     I really, really wish I coulda seen him play.........

  • One of my best friends who passed about 15 years ago raved about Jim Brown.   Told stories of watching him.    Then when I saw the film, I understood.   He was dominance personified.     I really, really wish I coulda seen him play.........

    @coyote said:

    One of my best friends who passed about 15 years ago raved about Jim Brown.   Told stories of watching him.    Then when I saw the film, I understood.   He was dominance personified.     I really, really wish I coulda seen him play.........

    Oh yeah Coyote  .......  #32 the Jim Brown was like a video pro football RB game  before  there was a video game.  I was 14 when the Cleveland BROWNS won the 1964 NFL Championship  he was unreal and at the top of his game.

    AND the defenses back then were simple it was 11 vs 1 everybody try to stop #32.   Which left Gary Collins WIDE OPEN for Frank Ryan to pop him a big TD.  OR Warren Ohio's Paul Warfield and everyone else open while #32 was getting all of the attention.  They also tried uvery Dirty trick, punch, spit, poke his eyes to get him out of the game ..... didn't work just made him more determined. 

    I remember one game (from memory,  I will check it)  verses Washington when Jim Brown was going for another record when their LB I believe named Robb was on Jim punching his groin, spitting,  grabbing his face mask, the n*****  stuff finally JB had it and BOTH. of them got thrown out early 4th quarter  ..... I will try and look it up.  He put up with a lot of that,  later in life I understood why JB the man knew why he was a rights fighter too.

    NOBODY leads the NFL in rushing 8 of 9 years in rushing,  never ever will again.   And his 12,312 career rushing yards was done in 12 qnd 14 game seasons.

    You can see how absolutely crushed I was when Jim Brown at the top of his game with a fantastic pulling OL decided to retire while on the set of the Dirty Dozen .....WHAT ?  WHY ? How can he ?   Oh well I got over it, sorta in maybe 40 or 50 years ...... lol.

    Yes he was the GOAT,  and a Cleveland BROWNS player.        😁

  • ~   Just fact checking I found only  -2- games where the Jim Brown Cleveland BROWNS played and buried the Washington Redskins.

    On 15 September 1963,  BTW is was 13 days before my 13th birthday Jim Brown had an unbelievable football game.   I believe in this game #32 was going for a TD both rushing and receiving record.  ALSO the line was CLE -7,  the bettors loved  ?  Jim Brown too.   FINAL SCORE:  CLEVELAND  37   Washington. 14.   (And NO I didn't bet it, lol.)

    ♠︎. So did you want to try and stop #32 ?   11 versus  1 or not ?  Good luck,he was that good.  162 yards in only 15 carries = 10.8 YPC  I think this might be the " ejection game"  or the only was to stop Jim Brown with only 15 carries....... get him ejected.    I do remember the basics of watching this game with my dad in 1963.   I will check Washington feeds, later.
     
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    CLEVELAND, Sept. 15 (UPI) --Jimmy Brown scored three touchdowns--one on an 83-yard pass play, another on an 80- yard run--as he led the Cleve land Browns th a 37--14 triumph over the Washington Redskins today in a National Football League game. Brown gained 162 yards in 15 rushing plays. VIEW FULL ARTICLE IN TIMESMACHINE »

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  • ~  More fact checking  Cleveland BROWNS  versus  Washington Redskins. 

    Pro Football Reference 

    Scoring ....  the #32 on 83 and 80 yard TDs both highlights,  in my JB best, check it out. 

     
     
    Quarter Tm Detail WAS CLE
    1 Browns Bobby Crespino 4 yard pass from Frank Ryan (Lou Groza kick) 0 7
      Browns Lou Groza 42 yard field goal 0 10
    2 Redskins Pat Richter 7 yard pass from Norm Snead (Bob Khayat kick) 7 10
      Browns Jim Brown 83 yard pass from Frank Ryan (Lou Groza kick) 7 17
      Browns Jim Brown 10 yard rush (Lou Groza kick) 7 24
    3 Browns Lou Groza 24 yard field goal 7 27
      Redskins Bobby Mitchell 99 yard pass from George Izo (Bob Khayat kick) MITCHELL  FORMER CLE BROWN  14 27
    4 Browns Jim Brown 80 yard rush (Lou Groza kick) 14 34
      Browns Lou Groza 39 yard field goal 14 37

    Game Info

     
     
    Game Info
    Roof outdoors
    Surface grass
    Weather* 59 degrees, relative humidity 65%, wind 9 mph
    *  Vegas Line Cleveland Browns -7.0 <---- YES THE BETTING LINE CLEVELAND  -7.0. ONLY VEGAS  maybe AC in 1963
  • ~  Just to pretty much close the Jim Brown #32 of the 1964  Championship team.  starting.   roster.  Those around him that helped make the magic happen.   And when you see the names again   -or-   have heard about them from your fathers or grandfathers it just keeps the Cleveland BROWNS legacy going.

    And you can pass it on to your family and friends.    Here they are The  1964 Championship  Roster :

    • Glossary
    Pos Player Age Yrs GS Summary of Player Stats Drafted (tm/rnd/yr)
      Offensive Starters          
    QB Frank Ryan* 28 6 14 174 for 334, 2,404 yards, 25 td, 19 int, & 37 rushes for 217 yards and 1 td  
    HB Ernie Green 26 2 14 109 rushes for 491 yards, 6 td, & 25 catches for 283 yards and 4 td  
    FB Jim Brown*+ 28 7 14 280 rushes for 1,446 yards, 7 td, & 36 catches for 340 yards and 2 td. THE G.O..A.T.  HIMSELF  !  
    FL Gary Collins 24 2 14 35 catches for 544 yards, 8 td  
    TE Johnny Brewer 27 3 14 25 catches for 338 yards, 3 td  
    LE Paul Warfield* 22 Rook 14 52 catches for 920 yards, 9 td.  <--  FROM WARREN G. HARDING   HS,   WARREN, OHIO  
    LT Dick Schafrath*+ 27 5 14    <--  HERE THEY ARE THE OL THAT KEPT JIMMY BROWN RUNNING  
    LG John Wooten 28 5 14     <--  JIM BROWN'S  GOOD PERSONAL FRIEND  
    C John Morrow 31 8 14 1 fumble recovered  
    RG Gene Hickerson 29 6 12 1 fumble recovered.  <--   THE GREAT HOF  RG GENE HICKERSON  !  
    RT John Brown 25 2 8 1 fumble recovered  
      Defensive Starters          
    LDE Paul Wiggin 30 7 14 0 interceptions, 3 fumbles recovered  
    LDT Dick Modzelewski* 33 11 12 0 interceptions, 2 fumbles recovered  
    RDT Jim Kanicki 23 1 9 0 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered. <--  I KNEW JIM KANICKI MANY YEARS LATER IN BUSNESS,  NICE GUY.  
    RDE Bill Glass* 29 6 14 0 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered  
    LLB Jim Houston* 27 4 13 2 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered  
    MLB Vince Costello 32 7 14 2 interceptions, 4 fumbles recovered  
    RLB Galen Fiss 33 8 10 1 interception, 1 fumble recovered  
    LCB Bernie Parrish 28 5 14 4 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered  
    RCB Walter Beach 29 4 14 4 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered  
    SS Larry Benz 23 1 13 4 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered  
    FS Bobby Franklin 28 4 8 0 interceptions, 1   
     
  • Those 60s Browns teams might have won another NFL title or two if Paul Brown hadn't traded away two or three HOF defensive players. 

  • I'd suggest that midfield be painted in Jim running with the ball

    Runningback Jim Brown of the Cleveland Browns runs with the ball ...

  • I suggest the team be named in honor of him. 

  • I suggest the team be named in honor of him. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I suggest the team be named in honor of him. 

    renamed  🙂

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I suggest the team be named in honor of him. 

    renamed  🙂

    @orion said:

    renamed  🙂

    The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

  • @orion said:

    renamed  🙂

    The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

    @nickers said:

    The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

    @syd said:

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

    How about just for this year?

  • @syd said:

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

    How about just for this year?

    @orion said:

    How about just for this year?

    that would be real cool being that we are back to  Cleveland Brown stadium for the year

  • whatever they decide it needs to be done with class

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

    @syd said:

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

    Well.. probably not , but.. It would be the class thing to do...

  • It could be a helluva battle cry for the fans and the team to rally behind...

  • @syd said:

    I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

    Well.. probably not , but.. It would be the class thing to do...

    @nickers said:

    Well.. probably not , but.. It would be the class thing to do...

    im sure Jim's wife will have some input on the going's on

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    Well.. probably not , but.. It would be the class thing to do...

    im sure Jim's wife will have some input on the going's on

    @syd said:

    im sure Jim's wife will have some input on the going's on

    I get goose bumps thinking about it!

  • From ESPN  and a panel of 50 experts the  G.O.A.T.  of all time in professional football both on offense and defense. 

    Well we know who was the #1 NFL RB  G.O.A.T.  -  #32  Jim Brown.      And now the details. 

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    • ESPN staffMay 19, 2023, 04:15 PM 

    *   Editor's note: This article was originally published Aug. 2, 2022. Hall of Fame Cleveland Browns running back Jim Brown, who was judged by a panel of 50 experts, reporters and analysts as the greatest running back of all time, died Friday at age 87.

    Quarterback Tom Brady was retired during the 2022 NFL offseason for just 40 days before opting to return for a 23rd season that could (maybe?) be his last, tight end Rob Gronkowski recently decided to hang them up, and defensive tackle Aaron Donald inked a massive contract extension this summer to make him the game's highest-paid non-QB after also considering retirement. It all got us thinking about where these legends of the game stack up all time at their respective positions.

    We asked 50 experts, reporters and analysts to name the NFL's greatest player of all time at every position. The goal was to narrow the field to just one GOAT at quarterback, wide receiver, edge rusher, cornerback and even kicker. We're starting here with seven offensive positions, and check out who made it for defense and special teams.

    After we tallied the ballots and crowned each offensive position's best player of all time, our voters weighed in and explained their decisions. Plus, Jeff Legwold broke down why each GOAT was chosen, and ESPN Stats & Information dove into the numbers to pick out key stats to know. Let's start at quarterback, which shouldn't surprise many.

    Jump to:
    QB | RB | WR | TE | OT | G | C

    See: GOAT at every defensive position

    @mjp28 said:

    ■  [  PLEASE NOTE  :  SEE THE LINKS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE FOR THE   DEFENSIVE  PLAYERS  AND THE. G.O.A.T.  AND OTHER READINGS. ]  ■

    .           ALL. JUST  FOR  YOUR  QUIET TIME READING.      THANK YOU. 

                                         ▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~     ?     ▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~

    From ESPN  and a panel of 50 experts the  G.O.A.T.  of all time in professional football both on offense and defense. 

    Well we know who was the #1 NFL RB  G.O.A.T.  -  #32  Jim Brown.      And now the details. 

    ▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~>     ?     <~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎~▪︎

    • ESPN staffMay 19, 2023, 04:15 PM 

    *   Editor's note: This article was originally published Aug. 2, 2022. Hall of Fame Cleveland Browns running back Jim Brown, who was judged by a panel of 50 experts, reporters and analysts as the greatest running back of all time, died Friday at age 87.

    Quarterback Tom Brady was retired during the 2022 NFL offseason for just 40 days before opting to return for a 23rd season that could (maybe?) be his last, tight end Rob Gronkowski recently decided to hang them up, and defensive tackle Aaron Donald inked a massive contract extension this summer to make him the game's highest-paid non-QB after also considering retirement. It all got us thinking about where these legends of the game stack up all time at their respective positions.

    We asked 50 experts, reporters and analysts to name the NFL's greatest player of all time at every position. The goal was to narrow the field to just one GOAT at quarterback, wide receiver, edge rusher, cornerback and even kicker. We're starting here with seven offensive positions, and check out who made it for defense and special teams.

    After we tallied the ballots and crowned each offensive position's best player of all time, our voters weighed in and explained their decisions. Plus, Jeff Legwold broke down why each GOAT was chosen, and ESPN Stats & Information dove into the numbers to pick out key stats to know. Let's start at quarterback, which shouldn't surprise many.

    Jump to:
    QB | RB | WR | TE | OT | G | C

    See: GOAT at every defensive position

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