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  • @korsou-dawg said:

    I seem to remember articles posted here that showed the Browns are front-runners in the league when it comes to 'creative bookkeeping' to create cap space.

    Whether I would do it for D-hop is another matter. Would say our receiver room is stacked to the point of being crowded already.

    I am not sure you can get very creative with a short term contract.  I doubt we would sign him for more than a year or two.  Anything could be possible, but I doubt we sign him.  Also, he is at the point in his career where he can pick and choose and Watson connection or not, i think he might have us lower on the list of preferred teams.  KC would probably be his first choice.

    @ballpeen said:

     i think he might have us lower on the list of preferred teams.  KC would probably be his first choice.

     as the media drives everyone off track again ... Give me a sleeper team like the Seattle Seahawks..

    GM Snyder with Geno Smith, need a piece like D-Hop to contend with only the 49'ers in division.. NFC please !

  • @ballpeen said:

     i think he might have us lower on the list of preferred teams.  KC would probably be his first choice.

     as the media drives everyone off track again ... Give me a sleeper team like the Seattle Seahawks..

    GM Snyder with Geno Smith, need a piece like D-Hop to contend with only the 49'ers in division.. NFC please !

    @gumby73 said:

     as the media drives everyone off track again ... Give me a sleeper team like the Seattle Seahawks..

    GM Snyder with Geno Smith, need a piece like D-Hop to contend with only the 49'ers in division.. NFC please !

    I hear ya Gumbs!  Unfortunately, he'll probably go to an AFC team we don't want him to go to.   Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  I wonder if Jack Conklin would be willing to re-structure his pretty big new contract or if they could get someone else to do so.  

  • I heard he bought a house in strongsville next to Bill Cowher

  • @gumby73 said:

     as the media drives everyone off track again ... Give me a sleeper team like the Seattle Seahawks..

    GM Snyder with Geno Smith, need a piece like D-Hop to contend with only the 49'ers in division.. NFC please !

    I hear ya Gumbs!  Unfortunately, he'll probably go to an AFC team we don't want him to go to.   Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  I wonder if Jack Conklin would be willing to re-structure his pretty big new contract or if they could get someone else to do so.  

    @flugel said:

       Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  

    AB could make a move to add d-hop! the release of JJ3 contract will become active cap as of June 1st

     S John Johnson III... Made a June 1st cut, the #Browns will save $9.7M on the cap with a $3.7M dead money… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

    Browns are sitting at 6.9M of cap space before JJ3's will roll into it.. I just don't think Berry will be able to match the $$'s signs..  

    WR sticker pricing..... OBJ got paid ? 

    stay tuned

  • @flugel said:

       Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  

    AB could make a move to add d-hop! the release of JJ3 contract will become active cap as of June 1st

     S John Johnson III... Made a June 1st cut, the #Browns will save $9.7M on the cap with a $3.7M dead money… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

    Browns are sitting at 6.9M of cap space before JJ3's will roll into it.. I just don't think Berry will be able to match the $$'s signs..  

    WR sticker pricing..... OBJ got paid ? 

    stay tuned

    @gumby73 said:

    ... OBJ got paid ? 

    And produced "ZILCH"

  • @flugel said:

       Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  

    AB could make a move to add d-hop! the release of JJ3 contract will become active cap as of June 1st

     S John Johnson III... Made a June 1st cut, the #Browns will save $9.7M on the cap with a $3.7M dead money… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

    Browns are sitting at 6.9M of cap space before JJ3's will roll into it.. I just don't think Berry will be able to match the $$'s signs..  

    WR sticker pricing..... OBJ got paid ? 

    stay tuned

    @gumby73 said:

    AB could make a move to add d-hop! the release of JJ3 contract will become active cap as of June 1st

     S John Johnson III... Made a June 1st cut, the #Browns will save $9.7M on the cap with a $3.7M dead money… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

    Browns are sitting at 6.9M of cap space before JJ3's will roll into it.. I just don't think Berry will be able to match the $$'s signs..  

    Yeah, I have the same feeling.  The good news is I suck at predictions.  I'm more Nostradumbass than Nostradamus.

  • @gumby73 said:

    ... OBJ got paid ? 

    And produced "ZILCH"

    @nickers said:

    And produced "ZILCH"

    ummm he hasn't played yet this year

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    And produced "ZILCH"

    ummm he hasn't played yet this year

    @syd said:

    ummm he hasn't played yet this year

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

  • @syd said:

    ummm he hasn't played yet this year

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    @nickers said:

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    ? I thought someone put hallucinogens in your salad or something.   I was like how the Hell is Nickers giving us a spoiler alert 4 months before the season even starts?   

  • @nickers said:

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    ? I thought someone put hallucinogens in your salad or something.   I was like how the Hell is Nickers giving us a spoiler alert 4 months before the season even starts?   

    @flugel said:

    ? I thought someone put hallucinogens in your salad or something.   I was like how the Hell is Nickers giving us a spoiler alert 4 months before the season even starts?   

    Good one , Tom!

  • @syd said:

    ummm he hasn't played yet this year

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    @nickers said:

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    so what ? he is the ravens problem now

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    so what ? he is the ravens problem now

    @syd said:

    so what ? he is the ravens problem now

    Yeah no shit Sherlock...

  • @gumby73 said:

     as the media drives everyone off track again ... Give me a sleeper team like the Seattle Seahawks..

    GM Snyder with Geno Smith, need a piece like D-Hop to contend with only the 49'ers in division.. NFC please !

    I hear ya Gumbs!  Unfortunately, he'll probably go to an AFC team we don't want him to go to.   Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  I wonder if Jack Conklin would be willing to re-structure his pretty big new contract or if they could get someone else to do so.  

    @flugel said:

    I hear ya Gumbs!  Unfortunately, he'll probably go to an AFC team we don't want him to go to.   Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  I wonder if Jack Conklin would be willing to re-structure his pretty big new contract or if they could get someone else to do so.  

    I don't know.  Some may disagree with the quality of the guys we have, but we have a lot of guys who will need/demand reps.

    We know that Cooper is a guy who can rack up 100 receptions in a season.  So how many reps does that take?  At least 100.  I think Moore will get enough reps to rack up 70 receptions.  Add in DPJ and Njoku...that is a pretty high amount right there before adding in the other guys who will get some targets.

    I think the team is pretty comfortable with the group as it stands.  I don't think we are interested in breaking the bank to bring him in.

  • @flugel said:

    I hear ya Gumbs!  Unfortunately, he'll probably go to an AFC team we don't want him to go to.   Even after June 1st - would the Browns have enough cap space to compete for him?  I wonder if Jack Conklin would be willing to re-structure his pretty big new contract or if they could get someone else to do so.  

    I don't know.  Some may disagree with the quality of the guys we have, but we have a lot of guys who will need/demand reps.

    We know that Cooper is a guy who can rack up 100 receptions in a season.  So how many reps does that take?  At least 100.  I think Moore will get enough reps to rack up 70 receptions.  Add in DPJ and Njoku...that is a pretty high amount right there before adding in the other guys who will get some targets.

    I think the team is pretty comfortable with the group as it stands.  I don't think we are interested in breaking the bank to bring him in.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't know.  Some may disagree with the quality of the guys we have, but we have a lot of guys who will need/demand reps.

    We know that Cooper is a guy who can rack up 100 receptions in a season.  So how many reps does that take?  At least 100.  I think Moore will get enough reps to rack up 70 receptions.  Add in DPJ and Njoku...that is a pretty high amount right there before adding in the other guys who will get some targets.

    I think the team is pretty comfortable with the group as it stands.  I don't think we are interested in breaking the bank to bring him in.

    I don't know either.  I'm just bouncing stuff off you guys so I appreciate your reply and offering any differences of opinion you have here.  I'm excited about Tillman joining the Browns; and I sincerely hope Elijah Moore is everything I'm reading/hearing he can be. Once upon a time the Browns picked up an NFL journeyman named Reggie Rucker; and he became such a good system fit that he produced to the point of calling Cleveland home.   Furthermore, I was ecstatic we landed David Bell in the 3rd round last year.  When we first saw DPJ, I was very excited about what seemed like a 6th round steal and where experience could take him. That said, I haven't seen him take that next step which seems somewhat similar to what happened with him at the school up north.  The great news is Cooper picked up a lot of the slack with our WR Corps with a very productive season.  

    I like that you brought up TE David Njoku.  When we drafted him, I hoped he'd eventually do what Travis Kelce was doing even before Mahomes arrived. I'm somewhere between stupid and stubborn thinking he still get a lot closer to that level than he has.  

    All of that said, 1 or 2 injuries to the WR Corps could leave us leaning on young and unproven guys not ready to make us competitive enough for playoffs yet.  That's why I'm dreaming about the idea of Hopkins joining us - even though I think you're right about the team being comfortable with this year's group of WRs.   I feel better about about the group of WRs we have today than the group we had last year at this time.  

  • @flugel said:

    ? I thought someone put hallucinogens in your salad or something.   I was like how the Hell is Nickers giving us a spoiler alert 4 months before the season even starts?   

    Good one , Tom!

    @nickers said:

    Good one , Tom!

    Damn!  I didn't even thank you for the entertainment value you brought to the discussion Nicks - so I'm fixing that as we speak.  You're spoiling me man!   

  • @nickers said:

    Good one , Tom!

    Damn!  I didn't even thank you for the entertainment value you brought to the discussion Nicks - so I'm fixing that as we speak.  You're spoiling me man!   

    @flugel said:

    Damn!  I didn't even thank you for the entertainment value you brought to the discussion Nicks - so I'm fixing that as we speak.  You're spoiling me man!   

    Hey if people get a laugh at my expense.. It's all good... You're welcome!

  • I think we have enough on offense for now until Watson starts proving himself. We were in a lot of games last year with a qback no one gave much chance to.  I'd like to keep seeing the defense improve right now.

  • @syd said:

    ummm he hasn't played yet this year

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    @nickers said:

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    no shit but gumby was talking about obj getting paid by the ravens,not us

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    For us when he was here ding dong... All he did was bitch and get hurt...

    no shit but gumby was talking about obj getting paid by the ravens,not us

    @syd said:

    no shit but gumby was talking about obj getting paid by the ravens,not us

    Good for him.. He's gone you dip shit!

  • Well Flugs, I mentioned Njoku because he is still around.  I have never been a big fan.  One of the most overrated players in browns history, IMO.

    And to be fair to others points, if we sign Hopkins, welcome aboard.  And it could make some sense.  

    I don't think we are going to be interested in signing DPJ to another contract.  Tillman or Bell seem slotted as his replacement.  If Hopkins is signed, it would open up trade possibilities and ship DPJ for some sort of return.