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  • @nickers said:

    based on last year.. we don't look good..

    I need you to qualify that.  I am not sure what you are saying?

    @ballpeen said:

    I need you to qualify that.  I am not sure what you are saying?

    The record disqualifies everything.. remember Parcells said... "U iz what yo record sez u iz"

  • @ballpeen said:

    I need you to qualify that.  I am not sure what you are saying?

    The record disqualifies everything.. remember Parcells said... "U iz what yo record sez u iz"

    @nickers said:

    The record disqualifies everything.. remember Parcells said... "U iz what yo record sez u iz"

    Cool, but you are comparing last regular season to this seasons 1st mandatory camp.  I don't know if that is a fair comparison

     or standard to use.

    Maybe starting comparing season to season when the games are real.

  • @nickers said:

    The record disqualifies everything.. remember Parcells said... "U iz what yo record sez u iz"

    Cool, but you are comparing last regular season to this seasons 1st mandatory camp.  I don't know if that is a fair comparison

     or standard to use.

    Maybe starting comparing season to season when the games are real.

    @ballpeen said:

    Cool, but you are comparing last regular season to this seasons 1st mandatory camp.  I don't know if that is a fair comparison

     or standard to use.

    Maybe starting comparing season to season when the games are real.

    They suck until they don't suck... Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

  • @ballpeen said:

    Cool, but you are comparing last regular season to this seasons 1st mandatory camp.  I don't know if that is a fair comparison

     or standard to use.

    Maybe starting comparing season to season when the games are real.

    They suck until they don't suck... Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

    @nickers said:

    They suck until they don't suck... Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

    It's not hard to grasp.

  • @orion said:

    Good to hear that Watson is looking good on day 1.

    No doubt.  This time of year, you don't want to hear anything else.  At this point it is still passing camp.  See your receiver and hit him.  

    When watching the tapes available, it looks like the QB can look around for 5-6 seconds.  At some point, it if was the coach I would start blowing whistles at 4.5 seconds and call a sack.

    But in fairness, the QB can't just roll out as he feels the 4 second clock closing and buy a few more seconds.

    @ballpeen said:

    I would start blowing whistles at 4.5 seconds and call a sack.

    Heck, they so something similar during my 7 yr old grandson's flag football games.  Make Watson et all get through their progressions quickly and get the ball out...like in real life.  I mean, there's nobody going to hit them, so put a little pressure on them to get the ball out on time.  

    I glimpsed a headline earlier (at work, cough) that Stef said some really good things about what Tillman has been showing so far.  That's also quite good to hear.  

  • Tee shirts and shorts are a poor barometer.. Let me know when he does something of merit on the field in full NFL regalia... Fluff reporting does nothing for me...

    @nickers said:

    Tee shirts and shorts are a poor barometer.. Let me know when he does something of merit on the field in full NFL regalia... Fluff reporting does nothing for me...

    no dumbass he is exactly where he should be 

    compared to this

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    @nickers said:

    Tee shirts and shorts are a poor barometer.. Let me know when he does something of merit on the field in full NFL regalia... Fluff reporting does nothing for me...

    no dumbass he is exactly where he should be 

    compared to this

    @syd said:

    no dumbass he is exactly where he should be 

    compared to this

    Its all fluff at this point.. Lets see the body of work good or bad for both at seasons end... only then a tale can be told...

  • na man it's what a good qb should look  like. unlike what we have had in the past

    also you would have been patting yourself on the back if he looked like shit

  • Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabot
    #Browns Deshaun Watson to Donovan Peoples-Jones for the red zone TD in 7/7s. DPJ has had an excellent minicamp
    Camryn Justice@camijustice
    Elijah Moore with an insane TD catch from Deshaun Watson. #Browns
  • @syd said:

    no dumbass he is exactly where he should be 

    compared to this

    Its all fluff at this point.. Lets see the body of work good or bad for both at seasons end... only then a tale can be told...

    @nickers said:

    Its all fluff at this point.. Lets see the body of work good or bad for both at seasons end... only then a tale can be told...

    Nicks, ANY QB that shows up for a 1st start in week 12 on a brand new team (after missing all of the previous season)- will be rusty aside from starting from square 1 with chemistry.  That was the only season he struggled; so it's important to keep the why (it was so) in mind.  There are no distractions this year.  It's okay to hope a QB of our favorite team succeeds here.  

    When adversity strikes, good leaders shine - bad ones point fingers everywhere but thyself...  Watson won a National Championship against a defense loaded with high round draft picks.  

  • sydS syd

    na man it's what a good qb should look  like. unlike what we have had in the past

    also you would have been patting yourself on the back if he looked like shit

    @syd said:

    na man it's what a good qb should look  like. unlike what we have had in the past

    also you would have been patting yourself on the back if he looked like shit

    nickers is correct, it is only them in shorts running around in non-contact passing drills. I'm glad he looks good, but I doubt it really means much.

    You are correct Sid, though, that if Watson looked bad, nickers would be doing cartwheels telling everyone how he told them he's overrated.  

  • @nickers said:

    Its all fluff at this point.. Lets see the body of work good or bad for both at seasons end... only then a tale can be told...

    Nicks, ANY QB that shows up for a 1st start in week 12 on a brand new team (after missing all of the previous season)- will be rusty aside from starting from square 1 with chemistry.  That was the only season he struggled; so it's important to keep the why (it was so) in mind.  There are no distractions this year.  It's okay to hope a QB of our favorite team succeeds here.  

    When adversity strikes, good leaders shine - bad ones point fingers everywhere but thyself...  Watson won a National Championship against a defense loaded with high round draft picks.  

    @flugel said:

    Nicks, ANY QB that shows up for a 1st start in week 12 on a brand new team (after missing all of the previous season)- will be rusty aside from starting from square 1 with chemistry.  That was the only season he struggled; so it's important to keep the why (it was so) in mind.  There are no distractions this year.  It's okay to hope a QB of our favorite team succeeds here.  

    When adversity strikes, good leaders shine - bad ones point fingers everywhere but thyself...  Watson won a National Championship against a defense loaded with high round draft picks.  

    Again Tom.. I want to see it in real time in pads with defenders chasing him.. That is really a true measuring stick... Guys practicing in tees and shorts tells us nothing at this point...  So far hes produced seasons of 4-12 ans 7-10 and sat out almost 2 years... Again.. Talk is cheap... They paid him big money... Now start playing like it..

  • @flugel said:

    Nicks, ANY QB that shows up for a 1st start in week 12 on a brand new team (after missing all of the previous season)- will be rusty aside from starting from square 1 with chemistry.  That was the only season he struggled; so it's important to keep the why (it was so) in mind.  There are no distractions this year.  It's okay to hope a QB of our favorite team succeeds here.  

    When adversity strikes, good leaders shine - bad ones point fingers everywhere but thyself...  Watson won a National Championship against a defense loaded with high round draft picks.  

    Again Tom.. I want to see it in real time in pads with defenders chasing him.. That is really a true measuring stick... Guys practicing in tees and shorts tells us nothing at this point...  So far hes produced seasons of 4-12 ans 7-10 and sat out almost 2 years... Again.. Talk is cheap... They paid him big money... Now start playing like it..

    @nickers said:

    Again Tom.. I want to see it in real time in pads with defenders chasing him.. That is really a true measuring stick... Guys practicing in tees and shorts tells us nothing at this point...  So far hes produced seasons of 4-12 ans 7-10 and sat out almost 2 years... Again.. Talk is cheap... They paid him big money... Now start playing like it..

    It does tell you something.  Like I said before, you have to keep it in the perspective of what it is and what it is for.

    Being good at the end is the result of being good along the way.  Camp is a step by step process just as the season is a 17 step process.

  • While good news beats the alternative, I'd caution against anyone using the Browns mouthpiece(s) as their anchor point.

    I'm not sure how much of it they edited out, but do remember that you could hear my (muffled, but bold) laugh when I was 20ft from Nathan Zagura recording a training camp report on how "RG3 LOOKS FANTASTIC".     That was..... 2016?

  • @syd said:

    na man it's what a good qb should look  like. unlike what we have had in the past

    also you would have been patting yourself on the back if he looked like shit

    nickers is correct, it is only them in shorts running around in non-contact passing drills. I'm glad he looks good, but I doubt it really means much.

    You are correct Sid, though, that if Watson looked bad, nickers would be doing cartwheels telling everyone how he told them he's overrated.  

    @dutch-oven said:

    nickers is correct, it is only them in shorts running around in non-contact passing drills. I'm glad he looks good, but I doubt it really means much.

    You are correct Sid, though, that if Watson looked bad, nickers would be doing cartwheels telling everyone how he told them he's overrated.  

    since are return I have never scene a qb look so good in ota's.... balls were either in the dirt or over their heads

  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    nickers is correct, it is only them in shorts running around in non-contact passing drills. I'm glad he looks good, but I doubt it really means much.

    You are correct Sid, though, that if Watson looked bad, nickers would be doing cartwheels telling everyone how he told them he's overrated.  

    since are return I have never scene a qb look so good in ota's.... balls were either in the dirt or over their heads

    @syd said:

    since are return I have never scene a qb look so good in ota's.... balls were either in the dirt or over their heads

    ESPN Cleveland@ESPNCleveland
    "He looks like the Deshaun Watson that we talked about from the years that he led the NFL in passing," - @JRCherry3 on what he saw at Browns mini-camp this week.
  • While good news beats the alternative, I'd caution against anyone using the Browns mouthpiece(s) as their anchor point.

    I'm not sure how much of it they edited out, but do remember that you could hear my (muffled, but bold) laugh when I was 20ft from Nathan Zagura recording a training camp report on how "RG3 LOOKS FANTASTIC".     That was..... 2016?

    @tiamat63 said:

    While good news beats the alternative, I'd caution against anyone using the Browns mouthpiece(s) as their anchor point.

    I'm not sure how much of it they edited out, but do remember that you could hear my (muffled, but bold) laugh when I was 20ft from Nathan Zagura recording a training camp report on how "RG3 LOOKS FANTASTIC".     That was..... 2016?

    No doubt.  That is why I said you have to keep it in perspective.  Also, the reports seem to be wide ranging, so I don't think it is all through the team mouthpiece.

    No matter.  The reports are good.  Now we will see how all of that transitions to training camp next month.

  • in shorts report,

    D. Watson..

    Footballs were being thrown in the correct location where WR's are suppose to be & making catches.. that's a plus when learning a new offense, with tweaks to what's coming back already in the former playbooks

    Unofficially, Watson threw nine touchdown passes on 10 red zone plays during the 7-on-7 period near the end of practice. The lone play that was not a touchdown was a pass to Moore, who was marked at the one-yard line. 

    Stef...

    "Former defensive back speaking now," he said.

    "Seven on seven is geared to the offense. You should complete balls at seven on seven. So I'm the head coach, not the offensive (coordinator)."

    on the other hand...

    Jim Schwartz.. 

    "I mean, I won't keep any secrets," he said.

    "You'll probably see five guys in pass rush a lot of times. We probably have five of them out there. We'll drop a guy occasionally, but we'll place them down five stuff,

    and that all goes back to the corners that we have. And it's hard to play five down if your corners aren't any good.

    We got good corners, and we're going to rely on those guys, too. it's going to take all parts of this defense"

    lots still to be determined in pads  ^^ ?️

    Training Camp is earlier this summer because of the Hall of Fame Game.

    #Browns will start camp at the Greenbrier 7/22-30, then come back to Berea to get ready for the Hall of Fame Game. Team will head to Philly for joint practices with #Eagles preseason game on 8/17.

  • I’m in the other camp when I hear He looks “good”.  Well We paid for this And he played really well before his long hiatus.   Not surprised …I guess. Just as I was not surprised that he played mediocre last year after the time off.  If he plays mediocre again this year I will be surprised 

  • @flugel said:

    Nicks, ANY QB that shows up for a 1st start in week 12 on a brand new team (after missing all of the previous season)- will be rusty aside from starting from square 1 with chemistry.  That was the only season he struggled; so it's important to keep the why (it was so) in mind.  There are no distractions this year.  It's okay to hope a QB of our favorite team succeeds here.  

    When adversity strikes, good leaders shine - bad ones point fingers everywhere but thyself...  Watson won a National Championship against a defense loaded with high round draft picks.  

    Again Tom.. I want to see it in real time in pads with defenders chasing him.. That is really a true measuring stick... Guys practicing in tees and shorts tells us nothing at this point...  So far hes produced seasons of 4-12 ans 7-10 and sat out almost 2 years... Again.. Talk is cheap... They paid him big money... Now start playing like it..

    @nickers said:

    Guys practicing in tees and shorts tells us nothing at this point

    you are a fucking idiot if you believe what you said