All the Rb's
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AdaM said:
We would have to send someone to waivers or cut them then he could be put on the 53 man roster. I think only 45 dress so there's always some inactive. Just depends on if they think its worth potentially losing someone to wavers to try Jennings temporarilly. I bet they elect to just keep him on the PS and let him develop, see if he can crack the roster next year.I have a feeling we'll see a ton of dink and dunk with more than usual cribbs behind center.
Why couldnt we just send someone to the IR.
Why couldnt we just send someone to the IR.
If they're actually injured you can...
"Currently, the NFL's injured reserve rule restricts a player from returning to play during the season that he's placed on the list. For further information on the rules concerning the contract status and compensation for injured players, see the Collective Bargaining Agreement (or CBA). "
We'd be stuck if we did that, i doubt they want to commit to that to take a look at jennings.
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All 4 on injury list...Vickers? cribbs? in a pinch....
P.S. Browns pass on two greatest RB's this decade and HOF's....LT and AP...for what? Gerard Warren and Joe thomas...woohoo
All 4 on injury list...Vickers? cribbs? in a pinch....
P.S. Browns pass on two greatest RB's this decade and HOF's....LT and AP...for what? Gerard Warren and Joe thomas...woohoo
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Joe Thomas has made two pro bowls or anything. Oh yeah, RB's careers are notorious for lasting over a decade [/sarcasm].
Passing on LT (or Richard Seymour, who was actually considered by Butch more than LT was) for Gerard Warren can never be forgiven. However, acting as if Joe Thomas wasn't worth the third pick is ignorant.
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What is it about the injured list that you think is gospel?
My take is Lewis will suit up and play. Harrison will spell him and Cribbs will run some "WildDawg". vickers also may get some short yardage carries.
So, what's different and what's all the worry?
Didn't everybody want to see Dabol open up the passing game?
Knee jerk reactions. Wait until Saturday's injury report. Then again, what can you really take from a Mangini injury report?
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Do we have any Rb's healthy?Jerome's only one participating...and his knee still tweeked...Cribbs backup RB?
Do we have any Rb's healthy?Jerome's only one participating...and his knee still tweeked...Cribbs backup RB?
It doesn't matter....we have BQ. With a solid controlled passing game, running the ball isn't as important.
I expect Quinn to be like a surgeon and carve up the Denver pass defense.
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I would rather have Joe Thomas than Peterson
lololololol you probably would...ha ha ha
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All 4 on injury list...Vickers? cribbs? in a pinch....
P.S. Browns pass on two greatest RB's this decade and HOF's....LT and AP...for what? Gerard Warren and Joe thomas...woohoo
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Joe Thomas has made two pro bowls or anything. Oh yeah, RB's careers are notorious for lasting over a decade [/sarcasm].
Passing on LT (or Richard Seymour, who was actually considered by Butch more than LT was) for Gerard Warren can never be forgiven. However, acting as if Joe Thomas wasn't worth the third pick is ignorant.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Joe Thomas has made two pro bowls or anything. Oh yeah, RB's career's are notorious for lasting over a decade [/sarcasm].
Passing on LT (or Richard Seymour, who was actually considered by Butch more than LT was) for Gerard Warren can never be forgiven. However, acting as if Joe Thomas wasn't worth the third pick is ignorant.
Ignorant? Ignorant is thinking lineman are more important that skill positions.
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I would rather have Joe Thomas than Peterson
lololololol you probably would...ha ha ha
lololololol you probably would...ha ha ha
I would too....Joe was the pick we needed to make.
It's not that I wouldn't want Peterson, but if he had come here he wouldn't be the same player...you have to have blocking.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like Joe Thomas has made two pro bowls or anything. Oh yeah, RB's career's are notorious for lasting over a decade [/sarcasm].
Passing on LT (or Richard Seymour, who was actually considered by Butch more than LT was) for Gerard Warren can never be forgiven. However, acting as if Joe Thomas wasn't worth the third pick is ignorant.
Ignorant? Ignorant is thinking lineman are more important that skill positions.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like Joe Thomas has made two pro bowls or anything. Oh yeah, RB's career's are notorious for lasting over a decade [/sarcasm].
Passing on LT (or Richard Seymour, who was actually considered by Butch more than LT was) for Gerard Warren can never be forgiven. However, acting as if Joe Thomas wasn't worth the third pick is ignorant.
Ignorant? Ignorant is thinking lineman are more important that skill positions.
Ignorant? Ignorant is thinking lineman are more important that skill positions.
Sorry Solon...they are. It's just that people like you don't know it.
I will beat you every time with a great line and a HS running back over you with a HS line and Jim Brown in the backfield.
Bank it
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mz. said:
Bullshit. Not when you can break six consecutive tackles you don't.No BS man...no matter what you do, without a line, everything else is neutralized.
And please, don't use our crappy tackling as your reasoning..
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mz. said:
Bullshit. Not when you can break six consecutive tackles you don't.No BS man...no matter what you do, without a line, everything else is neutralized.
And please, don't use our crappy tackling as your reasoning..
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Good to hear this.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...looks_good.html
Browns RB Harrison looks good in practice
by Tony Grossi/ Plain Dealer reporter
Thursday September 17, 2009, 7:40 PM
The Browns' running back situation, which was down to Jamal Lewis in the opener against Minnesota, is getting stronger.
Jerome Harrison has had no limitations in practices this week. That's the first time he has had back-to-back good days since suffering a knee injury early in training camp.
"He's made great strides over the week," coach Eric Mangini said. "He had a pretty good week last week, but I just thought it was better to give him another week. I like the way he looked [on Wednesday]. I'm encouraged by his continued progress."
Harrison played briefly in the first preseason game and then sat out the final three exhibition games. He was inactive for the regular-season opener.
In June, Mangini spoke of an enlarged role for Harrison in the offense. The injury gave rookie James Davis the opportunity to shine in preseason, raising speculation that he could supplant Harrison as a change-of-pace back.
But Davis suffered a shoulder injury against Minnesota and missed Wednesday's practice. Harrison appears to be on track to pick up some playing time.
How might he be used?
"It really depends," Mangini said. "As we had last week, there'll be different guys in different packages." The Cribbs factor: The Browns gave up a kickoff return of 41 yards and a punt return of 36 yards last Sunday, igniting two Vikings scoring drives. The assumption is that the teams sorely missed Josh Cribbs, who is off coverage units because of his increased role on offense. Cribbs led the Browns in special teams tackles the past three years.
But Mangini has no intention of returning Cribbs to plug the leaks.
"It's about the group," Mangini said. "And it's about leveraging the player, understanding how they're going to block you, and being able to recognize and beat those blocks and get to where you're supposed to get. You can't have missed tackles, can't have people vacating their responsibility. You've got to cover the whole field. There's things you can do to help your partner. So a lot of things come into play. Josh is a very good cover player but I feel we have good cover players in addition to Josh."
It's possible the Browns will try to acclimate newly signed free agent Ray Ventrone onto the coverage units as soon as possible. The former New England Patriot was signed on Wednesday as a safety/receiver and special teams player.
"Special teams is how I've been able to play this long," said Ventrone, who was undrafted in 2005 out of Villanova. Brown pants: The Browns intend to wear brown pants and white jerseys on the road all season.
Mangini said he decided on the radical look because he thought it looked good "and the guys felt the same way." Players also find the brown pants more comfortable and less restrictive because of the absence of a stripe down the legs.
"There was no bigger part to that decision," Mangini said. Injury report: Davis improved to have limited participation in Thursday's practice. That was the only change on the Browns' injury report. Orton's finger: Denver quarterback Kyle Orton played in Cincinnati with a cut finger and dislocated knuckle on his throwing hand protected by stitches, a wrap and a glove. He had the stitches removed this week and is contemplating removing the glove.
Despite the bad digit, Orton was 17 of 28 for 243 yards in Denver's 12-7 win in Cincinnati. Eighty-seven of the yards came on the "immaculate deflection" play to win the game. Local tie: We inadvertently omitted Richard Quinn from our Wednesday scouting report on Denver. The Broncos rookie tight end attended Maple Heights High School his last two prep years and played for Butch Davis at North Carolina. The Broncos traded up with Pittsburgh to take Quinn in the second round of the draft. Quinn is a native of Huntsville, Ala.
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No doubt Peterson is special.
Just a quick review of the Vikings O-line show
Hutcheson...1st rounder
Ryan cook 2nd rounder
Bryant McKinney 1st rounder
Loadholt...2nd rounder
That is the reason Peterson plays as well as he does.
The Vikings are a team who knows where to invest top picks....yes I know Hutch wasn't drafted by them.
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@inspecta said:
Well I'm definitely a trenches guy. I place high importance on the production of the offensive line, but Peterson IS special. He's the exception to the rule. Peterson could get 100 yds with a bunch of 10 year olds blocking for him....Thomas is a great lineman no doubt, but like I've said a million times, I've yet to see him break a 80 yd TD and swing the game in our favor....
No, he hasn't. But J-Lew's 60 yarder against Cincy (2007), and Harrison's 72 yarder against Buffaloni ran right behind (and then past) him.
Davis' 80 yarder went left too, though I can't remember if JT was in the game at that time.
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No doubt Peterson is special.
Just a quick review of the Vikings O-line show
Hutcheson...1st rounder
Ryan cook 2nd rounder
Bryant McKinney 1st rounder
Loadholt...2nd rounder
That is the reason Peterson plays as well as he does.
The Vikings are a team who knows where to invest top picks....yes I know Hutch wasn't drafted by them.
No doubt Peterson is special.
Just a quick review of the Vikings O-line show
Hutcheson...1st rounder
Ryan cook 2nd rounder
Bryant McKinney 1st rounder
Loadholt...2nd rounder
That is the reason Peterson plays as well as he does.
The Vikings are a team who knows where to invest top picks....yes I know Hutch wasn't drafted by them.
Expect half the lifespan of Peterson with a bad o-line
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Sorry Solon...they are. It's just that people like you don't know it.
I will beat you every time with a great line and a HS running back over you with a HS line and Jim Brown in the backfield.
Bank it
your average person cannot evaluate an OLman.....case in point, Solon (hell, im not that good at it and i love OL). it so much easier to do this with the skill positions because they stand out, you can check stats and make comparisons. they make you get off your seat and scream......yet only the very best of the best skill positions make more money than OL/DL....i wonder why that is? obviously, the people with the money put a higher value on that kind of talent.
great skill position players do not make an OL good.....however, the vice versa is true. i have to wonder how many of our bust picks would still be on the team if your OL was stocked well enough to keep them healthy. AP would take a beating in our backfield, and his durability would be compromised. his ability is top notch, but this is a team sport. if you think he could do it all on his own, you're mental.
its so much easier to sit back, after the fact and say we should/woulda coulda.....couch was a can't miss pick as well.....how'd that work out?
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