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  • FY56 F One Year In Posting Machine Conversation Starter Very Popular Dedicated Collaborator Reacting Well First Post One Month Later Week One Done
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    F FY56 wrote on last edited by FY56
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    If this doesn't convince black folks that demonrats suck, then it's hopeless.

    Your thoughts Hoorta?

    ...and keep Trump out of this please.

    Thank You.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1684696737623982080

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      but...according to the woodpecker - "those illegals are just here to have a better life"....

      as in,

      a better, richer bunch of people to rob from. they ran out of those in mexico......

      We have been having sheriffs telling citizens to ccw, arm up, etc, because America isn't safe like it used to be.

      I'm one of those citizens. Straight from the sheriff and deputy.

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        but...according to the woodpecker - "those illegals are just here to have a better life"....

        as in,

        a better, richer bunch of people to rob from. they ran out of those in mexico......

        We have been having sheriffs telling citizens to ccw, arm up, etc, because America isn't safe like it used to be.

        I'm one of those citizens. Straight from the sheriff and deputy.

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        @calfoxwc said:

        but...according to the woodpecker - "those illegals are just here to have a better life"....

        as in,

        a better, richer bunch of people to rob from. they ran out of those in mexico......

        We have been having sheriffs telling citizens to ccw, arm up, etc, because America isn't safe like it used to be.

        I'm one of those citizens. Straight from the sheriff and deputy.

        https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

        Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

        Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

        Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

        ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

          @calfoxwc said:

          but...according to the woodpecker - "those illegals are just here to have a better life"....

          as in,

          a better, richer bunch of people to rob from. they ran out of those in mexico......

          We have been having sheriffs telling citizens to ccw, arm up, etc, because America isn't safe like it used to be.

          I'm one of those citizens. Straight from the sheriff and deputy.

          https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

          Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

          Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

          Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

          ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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          @mld-woody said:

          https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

          Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

          Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

          Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

          **************************************

          https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/crimes-illegal-immigrants-widespread-across-us-sanctuaries-shouldnt

          Key Takeaways

          Non-citizens accounted for 24 percent of all federal drug arrests, 25 percent of all federal property arrests, and 28 percent of all federal fraud arrests.

          In 2018, a quarter of all federal drug arrests took place in the five judicial districts along the U.S.-Mexico border.

          Politicians who declare their jurisdictions to be sanctuaries for illegal immigrants who commit crimes are needlessly endangering their law-abiding citizens.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            https://nypost.com/2022/10/19/what-the-media-tell-you-about-illegal-immigrant-crime-is-plain-wrong/

            migrant crime confusion graph

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              now, notice the giant INCREASE in illegals and crime (biden regime - is the difference)

              https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-noncitizen-statistics

              Arrests of Individuals with Criminal Convictions

              The term “criminal noncitizens” refers to individuals who have been convicted of one or more crimes, whether in the United States or abroad, prior to interdiction by the U.S. Border Patrol; it does not include convictions for conduct that is not deemed criminal by the United States. Arrests of criminal noncitizens are a subset of total apprehensions by U.S. Border Patrol.

                FY17      FY18 FY19 FY20  FY21 FY22
              U.S. Border Patrol Criminal Noncitizen Arrests 8,531      6,698      4,269      2,438     10,763       12,028
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                https://nypost.com/2022/10/19/what-the-media-tell-you-about-illegal-immigrant-crime-is-plain-wrong/

                migrant crime confusion graph

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                @calfoxwc said:

                https://nypost.com/2022/10/19/what-the-media-tell-you-about-illegal-immigrant-crime-is-plain-wrong/

                migrant crime confusion graph

                Hoorta didn't list the NY Post as unapproved source so I think you're OK.

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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  but...according to the woodpecker - "those illegals are just here to have a better life"....

                  as in,

                  a better, richer bunch of people to rob from. they ran out of those in mexico......

                  We have been having sheriffs telling citizens to ccw, arm up, etc, because America isn't safe like it used to be.

                  I'm one of those citizens. Straight from the sheriff and deputy.

                  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

                  Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

                  Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

                  Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

                  ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

                  Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

                  Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

                  Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

                  ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

                  Here’s something a little closer to home. . .

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                  • F FY56

                    If this doesn't convince black folks that demonrats suck, then it's hopeless.

                    Your thoughts Hoorta?

                    ...and keep Trump out of this please.

                    Thank You.

                    https://twitter.com/i/status/1684696737623982080

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                    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                    @fy56 said:

                    If this doesn't convince black folks that demonrats suck, then it's hopeless.

                    Your thoughts Hoorta?

                    ...and keep Trump out of this please.

                    Thank You.

                    https://twitter.com/i/status/1684696737623982080

                    Rumor has it, HOORTA has been found on a milk carton.  That must have been one HELL of a wine tasting party... 

                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

                      Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

                      Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

                      Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

                      **************************************

                      https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/crimes-illegal-immigrants-widespread-across-us-sanctuaries-shouldnt

                      Key Takeaways

                      Non-citizens accounted for 24 percent of all federal drug arrests, 25 percent of all federal property arrests, and 28 percent of all federal fraud arrests.

                      In 2018, a quarter of all federal drug arrests took place in the five judicial districts along the U.S.-Mexico border.

                      Politicians who declare their jurisdictions to be sanctuaries for illegal immigrants who commit crimes are needlessly endangering their law-abiding citizens.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      You're statement "America isn't safe like it used to be" is false. Crime has gone down since whatever time you're reminiscing about. 

                      Posting an article by a rift wing think tank that doesn't source most of its info doesn't change that

                      And it's pretty damn clear what you really liked about the past...

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        @fy56 said:

                        If this doesn't convince black folks that demonrats suck, then it's hopeless.

                        Your thoughts Hoorta?

                        ...and keep Trump out of this please.

                        Thank You.

                        https://twitter.com/i/status/1684696737623982080

                        Rumor has it, HOORTA has been found on a milk carton.  That must have been one HELL of a wine tasting party... 

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                        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                        @flugel said:

                        Rumor has it, HOORTA has been found on a milk carton.  That must have been one HELL of a wine tasting party... 

                        He's hunkered down somewhere with a box of Franzia lol

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                          F FY56 wrote on last edited by
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                          So I posted a legitimate current issue promising not to use sources not approved by Hoorta and he remains a no-show.

                          My theory is that he is overwhelmed by Biden and democrat/liberal policies, corruption that are tearing this country apart. Uses Cals and Vambos views and media sources as a convenient excuse not to face the music.

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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            You're statement "America isn't safe like it used to be" is false. Crime has gone down since whatever time you're reminiscing about. 

                            Posting an article by a rift wing think tank that doesn't source most of its info doesn't change that

                            And it's pretty damn clear what you really liked about the past...

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            You're statement "America isn't safe like it used to be" is false. Crime has gone down since whatever time you're reminiscing about. 

                            Posting an article by a rift wing think tank that doesn't source most of its info doesn't change that

                            And it's pretty damn clear what you really liked about the past...

                            Your contentions support your intentions, but you fail in regard to retentions.

                            https://www.axios.com › local › columbus › 2021 › 10 › 12 › ohios-homicide-rate-highest-decades

                            Ohio's homicide rate highest in decades - Axios Columbus

                            Oct 12, 2021Homicide rates per 100,000 Ohioans rose 40% between 2019 and 2020, the biggest increase seen over the past 35 years. The rate of violent crime offenses — which includes murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — rose by 4%.
                             
                            • www.10tv.com.icohttps://www.10tv.com › article › news › local › crime-trends-rise-central-ohio › 530-d7b0189a-f340-41e4-8844-369cd9c6c182

                              Central Ohio crime trends on rise, communities want change | 10tv.com

                              Jun 27, 2023Published: 6:46 PM EDT June 27, 2023 Updated: 6:46 PM EDT June 27, 2023 COLUMBUS, Ohio — As crime trends spiral up this year compared to last year, the Columbus Division of Police and Columbus...
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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              Also Woody - here is a 2023 list of the most dangerous cities in Ohio:

                              https://upgradedhome.com/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-ohio/

                              The 25 Most Dangerous Cities In Ohio: 2023’s Ultimate List

                              "Based on FBI statistics, Chillicothe, Canton, Cleveland, Springfield, and Portsmouth are the most dangerous cities in Ohio. When it comes to violent and property crimes, these cities rank highest per capita consistently, with between 109 – 214% higher crime occurrences than all of the other cities in Ohio. Other areas you should avoid include Whitehall, Dayton, and Logan."

                              *****************************************

                                 and, a dear friend of ours was victimized by armed robbery a few months ago. on a street. In broad daylight.  Our friend is going to get a ccw license now. Lucky to be alive.

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                but...according to the woodpecker - "those illegals are just here to have a better life"....

                                as in,

                                a better, richer bunch of people to rob from. they ran out of those in mexico......

                                We have been having sheriffs telling citizens to ccw, arm up, etc, because America isn't safe like it used to be.

                                I'm one of those citizens. Straight from the sheriff and deputy.

                                https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

                                Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

                                Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

                                Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

                                ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

                                Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

                                Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

                                Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

                                ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

                                Good information there, except you left out the black population which reflects their attitude in the original post.

                                Black voters are particularly likely to say violent crime is a very important midterm issue.

                                Black Americans have consistently been more likely than other racial and ethnic groups to express concern about violent crime, and that remains the case this year.

                                Some 81% of Black registered voters say violent crime is very important to their midterm vote,

                                https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/05/20/safety-concerns-were-top-of-mind-for-many-black-americans-before-buffalo-shooting/ft_22-05-13_blackamericanscrime_1a/

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31/violent-crime-is-a-key-midterm-voting-issue-but-what-does-the-data-say/

                                  Republican voters are much more likely than Democratic voters to see violent crime as a key voting issue this year.

                                  Older voters are far more likely than younger ones to see violent crime as a key election issue.

                                  Annual government surveys from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show no recent increase in the U.S. violent crime rate.

                                  ft_2022.10.31_violent-crime_02c.png

                                  Good information there, except you left out the black population which reflects their attitude in the original post.

                                  Black voters are particularly likely to say violent crime is a very important midterm issue.

                                  Black Americans have consistently been more likely than other racial and ethnic groups to express concern about violent crime, and that remains the case this year.

                                  Some 81% of Black registered voters say violent crime is very important to their midterm vote,

                                  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/05/20/safety-concerns-were-top-of-mind-for-many-black-americans-before-buffalo-shooting/ft_22-05-13_blackamericanscrime_1a/

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  @fy56 said:

                                  Good information there, except you left out the black population which reflects their attitude in the original post.

                                  Black voters are particularly likely to say violent crime is a very important midterm issue.

                                  Black Americans have consistently been more likely than other racial and ethnic groups to express concern about violent crime, and that remains the case this year.

                                  Some 81% of Black registered voters say violent crime is very important to their midterm vote,

                                  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/05/20/safety-concerns-were-top-of-mind-for-many-black-americans-before-buffalo-shooting/ft_22-05-13_blackamericanscrime_1a/

                                  I don't believe Cal is black

                                  You'll notice I posted the headlines that have something to do with Cal

                                  nice try Gorka

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    Also Woody - here is a 2023 list of the most dangerous cities in Ohio:

                                    https://upgradedhome.com/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-ohio/

                                    The 25 Most Dangerous Cities In Ohio: 2023’s Ultimate List

                                    "Based on FBI statistics, Chillicothe, Canton, Cleveland, Springfield, and Portsmouth are the most dangerous cities in Ohio. When it comes to violent and property crimes, these cities rank highest per capita consistently, with between 109 – 214% higher crime occurrences than all of the other cities in Ohio. Other areas you should avoid include Whitehall, Dayton, and Logan."

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                                       and, a dear friend of ours was victimized by armed robbery a few months ago. on a street. In broad daylight.  Our friend is going to get a ccw license now. Lucky to be alive.

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                                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    Also Woody - here is a 2023 list of the most dangerous cities in Ohio:

                                    https://upgradedhome.com/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-ohio/

                                    The 25 Most Dangerous Cities In Ohio: 2023’s Ultimate List

                                    "Based on FBI statistics, Chillicothe, Canton, Cleveland, Springfield, and Portsmouth are the most dangerous cities in Ohio. When it comes to violent and property crimes, these cities rank highest per capita consistently, with between 109 – 214% higher crime occurrences than all of the other cities in Ohio. Other areas you should avoid include Whitehall, Dayton, and Logan."

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                                       and, a dear friend of ours was victimized by armed robbery a few months ago. on a street. In broad daylight.  Our friend is going to get a ccw license now. Lucky to be alive.

                                    Not surprised Euclid was included... I grew up in Euclid.. At one one time is was considered one of the top 5 suburbs in the country to raise a family... Euclid used to have outstanding city services.. Now its a Democrap/Commie shit hole...

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                                      I suppose we are veering away from the actual subject matter, but that's OK.

                                      Whether or not the crime rate in general has declined or increased is not really the issue. This has to do with consequences of democrats position on illegal immigration.

                                      A decrease in the crime rate doesn't mean it's acceptable for people who don't belong here to commit crime.

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                                        @fy56 said:

                                        Good information there, except you left out the black population which reflects their attitude in the original post.

                                        Black voters are particularly likely to say violent crime is a very important midterm issue.

                                        Black Americans have consistently been more likely than other racial and ethnic groups to express concern about violent crime, and that remains the case this year.

                                        Some 81% of Black registered voters say violent crime is very important to their midterm vote,

                                        https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/05/20/safety-concerns-were-top-of-mind-for-many-black-americans-before-buffalo-shooting/ft_22-05-13_blackamericanscrime_1a/

                                        I don't believe Cal is black

                                        You'll notice I posted the headlines that have something to do with Cal

                                        nice try Gorka

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        I don't believe Cal is black

                                        You'll notice I posted the headlines that have something to do with Cal

                                        nice try Gorka

                                        OK, I understand where you're coming from. You took one comment from Cal about increasing crime and help put the hijack in full gear. But that's Ok . Carry on.

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                                          I suppose we are veering away from the actual subject matter, but that's OK.

                                          Whether or not the crime rate in general has declined or increased is not really the issue. This has to do with consequences of democrats position on illegal immigration.

                                          A decrease in the crime rate doesn't mean it's acceptable for people who don't belong here to commit crime.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @fy56 said:

                                          Whether or not the crime rate in general has declined or increased is not really the issue. 

                                          It's decreased 

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