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    Robbie Gould

    The oldest kicker on this list, Gould is heading into his age-40 campaign as a free agent after having spent the past six years with the 49ers. Last year, he saw full kickoff duties for the first time since 2016 with the Giants, and notched a career-best 47 touchbacks.

    It wasn't a perfect season for Gould, however. He went 7-for-11 on kicks in the 40s, though he was a perfect two-for-two on 50-plus-yarders during the season. He finished the year with a field goal percentage of 84.4 percent and a near-perfect 50-for-51 on extra-point tries.

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    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-free-agent-kickers-2023-available-mason-crosby-robbie-gould/xbl1wnkamt45oyfes0yagwdz

    Robbie Gould

    The oldest kicker on this list, Gould is heading into his age-40 campaign as a free agent after having spent the past six years with the 49ers. Last year, he saw full kickoff duties for the first time since 2016 with the Giants, and notched a career-best 47 touchbacks.

    It wasn't a perfect season for Gould, however. He went 7-for-11 on kicks in the 40s, though he was a perfect two-for-two on 50-plus-yarders during the season. He finished the year with a field goal percentage of 84.4 percent and a near-perfect 50-for-51 on extra-point tries.

    @jax said:

    He finished the year with a field goal percentage of 84.4 percent

    Well, that's 9.4 points better than our guy.

  • @jax said:

    He finished the year with a field goal percentage of 84.4 percent

    Well, that's 9.4 points better than our guy.

    @orion said:

    Well, that's 9.4 points better than our guy.

    On a small sample size, 1-2 kicks can swing those percentage a great deal.  I am not sure that looking at % is the best barometer.

  • @orion said:

    Well, that's 9.4 points better than our guy.

    On a small sample size, 1-2 kicks can swing those percentage a great deal.  I am not sure that looking at % is the best barometer.

    @ballpeen said:

    On a small sample size, 1-2 kicks can swing those percentage a great deal.  I am not sure that looking at % is the best barometer.

    The best barometer would be to look at % when it's choke time. I play racquetball and when my opponent reaches a serving for the match point, I love to grab my throat with both hands as he's taking the ball from me to serve just to let him know it's choke time. Works better than 50% of the time too. And that's what I think you'll find with our kicker if you look at choke time only. You know, like missing two game winners just in a preseason game. LOL!?‍?

  • @ballpeen said:

    On a small sample size, 1-2 kicks can swing those percentage a great deal.  I am not sure that looking at % is the best barometer.

    The best barometer would be to look at % when it's choke time. I play racquetball and when my opponent reaches a serving for the match point, I love to grab my throat with both hands as he's taking the ball from me to serve just to let him know it's choke time. Works better than 50% of the time too. And that's what I think you'll find with our kicker if you look at choke time only. You know, like missing two game winners just in a preseason game. LOL!?‍?

    @texasag1969 said:

    like missing two game winners just in a preseason game. LOL!

    If you're missing kicks in August, what's going to happen in November-December when the weather isn't so great? 

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    Wondering if they have one of these for football yet?

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    @neo said:

    Wondering if they have one of these for football yet?

    I can cover him.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    like missing two game winners just in a preseason game. LOL!

    If you're missing kicks in August, what's going to happen in November-December when the weather isn't so great? 

    @orion said:

    If you're missing kicks in August, what's going to happen in November-December when the weather isn't so great? 

    The future never tells.

    Maybe he makes them.

  • @orion said:

    If you're missing kicks in August, what's going to happen in November-December when the weather isn't so great? 

    The future never tells.

    Maybe he makes them.

    @ballpeen said:

    Maybe he makes them.

    Do you mean that the wind will blow his errant kicks through the uprights?

  • As has been mentioned before, his kicks look terrible even when he makes them. I see no logical justification for placing our faith in his ability. If we were a team that's building to win in the future, maybe, but we have a fairly small window to get this done.

  • As has been mentioned before, his kicks look terrible even when he makes them. I see no logical justification for placing our faith in his ability. If we were a team that's building to win in the future, maybe, but we have a fairly small window to get this done.

    @hish747 said:

    As has been mentioned before, his kicks look terrible even when he makes them.

    And that can't be overstated.  It means something.  I understand that the drafted kicker gets more than one season...but shaky kicking has to be evaluated in way that is best for the team....at some point.

  • @hish747 said:

    As has been mentioned before, his kicks look terrible even when he makes them.

    And that can't be overstated.  It means something.  I understand that the drafted kicker gets more than one season...but shaky kicking has to be evaluated in way that is best for the team....at some point.

    @orion said:

    And that can't be overstated.  It means something.  I understand that the drafted kicker gets more than one season...but shaky kicking has to be evaluated in way that is best for the team....at some point.

    And I am sure it will be evaluated.  It just seems like some have already done their evaluations.

  • @orion said:

    And that can't be overstated.  It means something.  I understand that the drafted kicker gets more than one season...but shaky kicking has to be evaluated in way that is best for the team....at some point.

    And I am sure it will be evaluated.  It just seems like some have already done their evaluations.

    @ballpeen said:

    It just seems like some have already done their evaluations.

    I guess I've slipped into that camp.  I don't get to see him at practice, where I'm assuming he looks great, I only see him in games.  And from what his FG kicks look like in games, it doesn't lend itself to having a lot of confidence when that unit trots onto the field.  Our window to win is (RF) now.  And we're going to need to make FG's in order to win.

  • @ballpeen said:

    It just seems like some have already done their evaluations.

    I guess I've slipped into that camp.  I don't get to see him at practice, where I'm assuming he looks great, I only see him in games.  And from what his FG kicks look like in games, it doesn't lend itself to having a lot of confidence when that unit trots onto the field.  Our window to win is (RF) now.  And we're going to need to make FG's in order to win.

    @orion said:

    I guess I've slipped into that camp.  I don't get to see him at practice, where I'm assuming he looks great, I only see him in games.  And from what his FG kicks look like in games, it doesn't lend itself to having a lot of confidence when that unit trots onto the field.  Our window to win is (RF) now.  And we're going to need to make FG's in order to win.

    Hypothetical situation. Say he does get his shit straightened out just good enough to give you the impression that he can be relied on. We're in the AFC championship game and it comes down to the last kick of the game, we're down by one point and he misses. How is that going to look knowing he has a history of missing even the most easiest of kicks and you had ample time to find a replacement. I don't want to see anyone lose their job but the writing is on the wall that he can't be trusted. 

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    @orion said:

    I guess I've slipped into that camp.  I don't get to see him at practice, where I'm assuming he looks great, I only see him in games.  And from what his FG kicks look like in games, it doesn't lend itself to having a lot of confidence when that unit trots onto the field.  Our window to win is (RF) now.  And we're going to need to make FG's in order to win.

    Hypothetical situation. Say he does get his shit straightened out just good enough to give you the impression that he can be relied on. We're in the AFC championship game and it comes down to the last kick of the game, we're down by one point and he misses. How is that going to look knowing he has a history of missing even the most easiest of kicks and you had ample time to find a replacement. I don't want to see anyone lose their job but the writing is on the wall that he can't be trusted. 

    @neo said:

    Hypothetical situation. Say he does get his shit straightened out just good enough to give you the impression that he can be relied on. We're in the AFC championship game and it comes down to the last kick of the game, we're down by one point and he misses. How is that going to look knowing he has a history of missing even the most easiest of kicks and you had ample time to find a replacement. I don't want to see anyone lose their job but the writing is on the wall that he can't be trusted. 

    Then he misses the kick.  

    What happens if we replace York, and whoever we get does the same as your hypothetical?

  • Time to bring in every f'n kicker out there for tryouts before the season starts. York is NOT an NFL level kicker.

  • this guy. it just makes to much sense

  • Time to bring in every f'n kicker out there for tryouts before the season starts. York is NOT an NFL level kicker.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Time to bring in every f'n kicker out there for tryouts before the season starts. York is NOT an NFL level kicker.

    i saw his facial expression after the kick. He knew his time was through

  • What everyone should have taken away from todays game is this team has immense talent across the field. The reality is, though, so does the AFC north and the whole division for that matter.

    Games are going to be close, and our division is loaded at the kicker position. It will be an absolute failure if York is booting them week one. I don’t give a shit about his potential- this team is ready to win NOW. Let another team be the dudes project. 
     

    the way he absolutely shanked the first extra point and acted like the small running into him caused it made my eye twitch. Everything he is doing is broken- time to wipe the slate. 

  • The game-winner was blocked.  But it didn't look like that side of the line got an incredible push or anything.  It didn't look like anyone jumped exceptionally high.  IMO, the kick was too low.