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We only have 5-6 more years of Watson. We've effectively lost 3 entire decades of nfl football. I would never wish injury on anyone, anyone, but Watson will get banged up and we'll get to see DTR. I'm sure DTR will struggle, but it'll be fun to watch.
Btw, don't look at Baker's numbers, although Baker plays Philly Sunday and will get his comeuppance.
Btw, don't look at Baker's numbers, although Baker plays Philly Sunday and will get his comeuppance.
What did Baker do to deserve a "comeuppance" ? Browns moved on from HIM
He's just competing trying to take advantage of an opportunity.
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Btw, don't look at Baker's numbers, although Baker plays Philly Sunday and will get his comeuppance.
What did Baker do to deserve a "comeuppance" ? Browns moved on from HIM
He's just competing trying to take advantage of an opportunity.
He's just competing trying to take advantage of an opportunity.
Oh, that wasn't what I meant. He doesn't deserve it, I just meant the competition grows very stiff next week, that's all.
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Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
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Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
Yeah Pickett is gawd awful...
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Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
Yeah Pickett is gawd awful...
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
You're such a fucking douche.
This is absolutely true.
But that doesn't mean nickers isn't right about some of the situation either.
The Browns (Stefanski) have no idea how to utilize Watson, but that doesn't excuse his poor play across the board.
Without Chubb, this IMO is going to get ugly. Stefanski without Chubb is a scary proposition.
And I have no doubt that Baker will come crashing towards mediocrity as he always does, but since some on here seem obsessed with their Great White Dope, we'll have to hear about him for years to come.
Good times! ?
But that doesn't mean nickers isn't right about some of the situation either.
My comment has nothing to do with what he said about the situation. I mean, I just don't think he can help himself. Out of all the threads he could have started, he could of started one on poor Nick Chubb who's career may very well be over and where we go from here. Or the fact that Chubb's injury completely deflated the team and maybe that's why Watson looked like garbage last night. It's possible, but it's also possible that Watson really is garbage. But can we at least give him the benefit of the doubt here?
But what does he do? Start a thread so he can tell the world how much better he is than everybody else?
shit QB Mr.Peepee
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Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
Hmmmmm. I love what you're saying...I do...but not there yet. The decision to have a long developing play action pass against a blitz crazy defense that already scored one td...I can't. We were up 3. Our defense was lights out. Is it guaranteed we win if we run it on 3rd and punt? Of course not. But that decision by Stefanski could have HUGE implications on whether or not he's our coach. All kidding aside, that was the game. Yes, Watson needs to hold onto the ball, but that call WAS the game.
A 3 point lead with around 3 minutes to go. And we called THAT. Your defense was amazing almost all day...
I'm trying to get positive. I really am. But this...this is beyond horrible. This feels...like...more than a loss. Positive sentiment is coming...just not quite there brotha.
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But that doesn't mean nickers isn't right about some of the situation either.
My comment has nothing to do with what he said about the situation. I mean, I just don't think he can help himself. Out of all the threads he could have started, he could of started one on poor Nick Chubb who's career may very well be over and where we go from here. Or the fact that Chubb's injury completely deflated the team and maybe that's why Watson looked like garbage last night. It's possible, but it's also possible that Watson really is garbage. But can we at least give him the benefit of the doubt here?
But what does he do? Start a thread so he can tell the world how much better he is than everybody else?
shit QB Mr.Peepee
My comment has nothing to do with what he said about the situation. I mean, I just don't think he can help himself. Out of all the threads he could have started, he could of started one on poor Nick Chubb who's career may very well be over and where we go from here. Or the fact that Chubb's injury completely deflated the team and maybe that's why Watson looked like garbage last night. It's possible, but it's also possible that Watson really is garbage. But can we at least give him the benefit of the doubt here?
But what does he do? Start a thread so he can tell the world how much better he is than everybody else?
Like I said.. Go find your safe space... Apparently you are mentally weak...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Can I spew some positive in this thread? The last 15 hours have been brutal.
After watching Ben R. Beat us down for decades…the Steelers obviously didn’t make the right choice with Kenny P.
Hmmmmm. I love what you're saying...I do...but not there yet. The decision to have a long developing play action pass against a blitz crazy defense that already scored one td...I can't. We were up 3. Our defense was lights out. Is it guaranteed we win if we run it on 3rd and punt? Of course not. But that decision by Stefanski could have HUGE implications on whether or not he's our coach. All kidding aside, that was the game. Yes, Watson needs to hold onto the ball, but that call WAS the game.
A 3 point lead with around 3 minutes to go. And we called THAT. Your defense was amazing almost all day...
I'm trying to get positive. I really am. But this...this is beyond horrible. This feels...like...more than a loss. Positive sentiment is coming...just not quite there brotha.
Hmmmmm. I love what you're saying...I do...but not there yet. The decision to have a long developing play action pass against a blitz crazy defense that already scored one td...I can't. We were up 3. Our defense was lights out. Is it guaranteed we win if we run it on 3rd and punt? Of course not. But that decision by Stefanski could have HUGE implications on whether or not he's our coach. All kidding aside, that was the game. Yes, Watson needs to hold onto the ball, but that call WAS the game.
A 3 point lead with around 3 minutes to go. And we called THAT. Your defense was amazing almost all day...
I'm trying to get positive. I really am. But this...this is beyond horrible. This feels...like...more than a loss. Positive sentiment is coming...just not quite there brotha.
Well I hear you.
It is funny because we play the Bengals and have success the same way the Steelers play the Browns and have success.
we make ourselves one dimensional and then watch the pass rushers pin their ears back and make a couple plays on our QB. That’s the Steeler way against the Browns
I’ve praised Kevin on this forum for being an intelligent guy. I saw a lot of over pursuit from the Steelers and very little action the other way to counter that…you also got the sense that maybe the screen game would have worked a little more last night…but go routes with a 5’10’’ WR with the Steelers being handsy and using the out of bounds line as a second defender was a better option?
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Hmmmmm. I love what you're saying...I do...but not there yet. The decision to have a long developing play action pass against a blitz crazy defense that already scored one td...I can't. We were up 3. Our defense was lights out. Is it guaranteed we win if we run it on 3rd and punt? Of course not. But that decision by Stefanski could have HUGE implications on whether or not he's our coach. All kidding aside, that was the game. Yes, Watson needs to hold onto the ball, but that call WAS the game.
A 3 point lead with around 3 minutes to go. And we called THAT. Your defense was amazing almost all day...
I'm trying to get positive. I really am. But this...this is beyond horrible. This feels...like...more than a loss. Positive sentiment is coming...just not quite there brotha.
Well I hear you.
It is funny because we play the Bengals and have success the same way the Steelers play the Browns and have success.
we make ourselves one dimensional and then watch the pass rushers pin their ears back and make a couple plays on our QB. That’s the Steeler way against the Browns
I’ve praised Kevin on this forum for being an intelligent guy. I saw a lot of over pursuit from the Steelers and very little action the other way to counter that…you also got the sense that maybe the screen game would have worked a little more last night…but go routes with a 5’10’’ WR with the Steelers being handsy and using the out of bounds line as a second defender was a better option?
Well I hear you.
It is funny because we play the Bengals and have success the same way the Steelers play the Browns and have success.
we make ourselves one dimensional and then watch the pass rushers pin their ears back and make a couple plays on our QB. That’s the Steeler way against the Browns
I’ve praised Kevin on this forum for being an intelligent guy. I saw a lot of over pursuit from the Steelers and very little action the other way to counter that…you also got the sense that maybe the screen game would have worked a little more last night…but go routes with a 5’10’’ WR with the Steelers being handsy and using the out of bounds line as a second defender was a better option?
I have a real hard time equating KS with being "Intelligent" This "New" offense looks slow.. unimaginative and boring...
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Bias? He likes Baker, but how is that biased? Nickers has no control of the numbers, so his post has no bias in it.
Every value judgement made in the sport of football is based on numbers. They drive the draft, HOF elections, GOAT conversations and on it goes. We can't get pissed then when the numbers don't support us.
I have no clue if Watson is our guy. So far, c'mon people, this guy has shown no reason for optimism.
These idiots conveniently forget I was a huge fan of Warren Moon and Steve "AIR" McNair who both happened to be black QB's.. So all this 'bias' shit , sounds completely stupid... I judge QB's solely on performance.. And the numbers say Depud Watson is terrible... This guy inspires nothing...
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Bias? He likes Baker, but how is that biased? Nickers has no control of the numbers, so his post has no bias in it.
Every value judgement made in the sport of football is based on numbers. They drive the draft, HOF elections, GOAT conversations and on it goes. We can't get pissed then when the numbers don't support us.
I have no clue if Watson is our guy. So far, c'mon people, this guy has shown no reason for optimism.
Let's check the Watson vs. Baker stats at the end of the year. Baker had two games against very porous defenses.
If you want to cherry pick the first two games of the year, go ahead.
Here is Baker's stats from last year, a full season with the Rams/Panthers:
2-8 record, 180.3 YPG, 10 TD's, 8 INT's, 2 lost fumbles, 36 sacks in 10 games, QBR 79.0.
So cut the bullshit Ghoolie.
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You're such a fucking douche.
This is absolutely true.
But that doesn't mean nickers isn't right about some of the situation either.
The Browns (Stefanski) have no idea how to utilize Watson, but that doesn't excuse his poor play across the board.
Without Chubb, this IMO is going to get ugly. Stefanski without Chubb is a scary proposition.
And I have no doubt that Baker will come crashing towards mediocrity as he always does, but since some on here seem obsessed with their Great White Dope, we'll have to hear about him for years to come.
Good times! ?
This is absolutely true.
But that doesn't mean nickers isn't right about some of the situation either.
The Browns (Stefanski) have no idea how to utilize Watson, but that doesn't excuse his poor play across the board.
Without Chubb, this IMO is going to get ugly. Stefanski without Chubb is a scary proposition.
And I have no doubt that Baker will come crashing towards mediocrity as he always does, but since some on here seem obsessed with their Great White Dope, we'll have to hear about him for years to come.
Good times! ?
The fan boys seem to think the Browns didn't know what they were doing when they sent Baker packing. They weren't inside the locker room and practices. I'm still honked off Baker kept trotting out there to play his last season in Cleveland when with that shoulder injury it was obviously affecting his play. And his career stats say to this point he's a pretty average QB... Tia's been pointing out for years his shortcomings. Well I suppose right now, we'd prefer average quarterbacking as opposed the garbage Watson has shown us so far this year.
Yeah Pickett is gawd awful...
& LOL, Watson is even worse, you have to go to page two in the QB stats on NFL.com to find him.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Bias? He likes Baker, but how is that biased? Nickers has no control of the numbers, so his post has no bias in it.
Every value judgement made in the sport of football is based on numbers. They drive the draft, HOF elections, GOAT conversations and on it goes. We can't get pissed then when the numbers don't support us.
I have no clue if Watson is our guy. So far, c'mon people, this guy has shown no reason for optimism.
These idiots conveniently forget I was a huge fan of Warren Moon and Steve "AIR" McNair who both happened to be black QB's.. So all this 'bias' shit , sounds completely stupid... I judge QB's solely on performance.. And the numbers say Depud Watson is terrible... This guy inspires nothing...
I judge QB's solely on performance.. And the numbers say Depud Watson is terrible..
Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Last year's stats have absolutely no weight in this conversation. For instance......if the Browns win the SB this year, none of the shit before matters.
We live in the here and now. We are playing THIS season, not last season.
Browns fans have been second guessing our trades and cuts for our entire history......Warfield for Phipps.....Mitchell for Davis......Len Dawson....and on it goes.
Some of you guys are really emotional over this debate, but fuck dudes, in the event Baker outperforms Watson long term, it isn't just Watson detractors here that are going to point fingers at the Browns apparr3nt fuck up.
Watson versus Baker is a valid debate. You may not like it, but is a valid debate.
My.concernis the continued, repeating problems that have been a staple since 1999.
We deserve better
Go fuck yourself asshole.
If you want to have a circle jerk about Baker Mayfield then go ahead. You Baker losers enjoy splooging all over each other.
It does zero good to talk about quarterbacks who no longer play for the team. Baker, Johnny, Tim Couch. Who cares. I care about the team we currently have.
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I judge QB's solely on performance.. And the numbers say Depud Watson is terrible..
Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Why don't you go hit a bong and sit this one out Julio...
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I judge QB's solely on performance.. And the numbers say Depud Watson is terrible..
Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding Watson's lousy play... Two games, and some folks are of the opinion he's going to totally suck the rest of the season. Maybe he will, and maybe he'll pull his head out of his ass and start playing like the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston. Time will tell. And barring injury, he's going to be the starting QB the rest of the season.
It's the way with fans everywhere in the NFL. When things go south, it's fire the head coach asap. And if the QB is playing poorly, the most popular player on the roster is the backup QB. ?
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Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Why don't you go hit a bong and sit this one out Julio...
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Why don't you try to put things into context for a change before your douchiness starts to act up? Stonehand Bryant dropped a pass that hit him in the hands that resulted in an immediate seven points. I'm sure you can appreiciate the importance of that when you look back at the playoff game a couple years ago when the ball was hiked over Rothliberger's head. Not to mention they're franchise player went down with a devastating knee injury how that might effect the team mentally. I'll admit Watson didn't play well but for fuck sake I think you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding Watson's lousy play... Two games, and some folks are of the opinion he's going to totally suck the rest of the season. Maybe he will, and maybe he'll pull his head out of his ass and start playing like the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston. Time will tell. And barring injury, he's going to be the starting QB the rest of the season.
It's the way with fans everywhere in the NFL. When things go south, it's fire the head coach asap. And if the QB is playing poorly, the most popular player on the roster is the backup QB. ?
Regarding Watson's lousy play... Two games, and some folks are of the opinion he's going to totally suck the rest of the season. Maybe he will, and maybe he'll pull his head out of his ass and start playing like the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston. Time will tell. And barring injury, he's going to be the starting QB the rest of the season.
It's the way with fans everywhere in the NFL. When things go south, it's fire the head coach asap. And if the QB is playing poorly, the most popular player on the roster is the backup QB. ?
I really don't think it's time to panic with Watson yet. I've seen all the shitty QB's that have come though here in the past 20 years and it's not time to panic yet.
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