Michigan, Again ...... ● ? MICHIGAN 27 Alabama 20 in OT. Yes.
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Just saying. The guy was a .500 coach until they started cheating
Really ? Michigan "cheating to win" U ? No way.
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Just saying. The guy was a .500 coach until they started cheating
Really ? Michigan "cheating to win" U ? No way.
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As long as he stays away from the Browns. The guy is a loser
He was great at Stanford though. A little bit in SF too
He was great at Stanford though. A little bit in SF too
He went to three NFC championship games in a row in SF....
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
He went to three NFC championship games in a row in SF....
I forgot about that. I just remembered the Harbaugh SB where the lights went out & SF lost momentum.
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He went to three NFC championship games in a row in SF....
And never win the game after that
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You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
It doesn’t take an investigative firm to see him on the sidelines next to the defensive coaches
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
Disguised with CMU gear and sunglasses at night to spy on Michigan State.
Nothing to see here… Everyone does that!
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You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
Pathetic response. I actually expect better of you.
Tressel got what he deserved - not for the tats part, but for misleading the NCAA and not informing the feds + them about an ongoing investigation. Had he done that, it would be fine.
There is evidence of a systemic issue here, and all you have is to gaslight.
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You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
Pathetic response. I actually expect better of you.
Tressel got what he deserved - not for the tats part, but for misleading the NCAA and not informing the feds + them about an ongoing investigation. Had he done that, it would be fine.
There is evidence of a systemic issue here, and all you have is to gaslight.
Pathetic response. I actually expect better of you.
Tressel got what he deserved - not for the tats part, but for misleading the NCAA and not informing the feds + them about an ongoing investigation. Had he done that, it would be fine.
There is evidence of a systemic issue here, and all you have is to gaslight.
There is no evidence linking this up the chain throughout Michigan. There is evidence of a rogue agent. If there is evidence of a systemic issue, I'll change my response.
Of course this is all about sign stealing, which everyone does. Advance scouting the NCAA has said in the past provides minimal competitive advantage. What Stallions was getting is basically what is availably publicly. Plenty of coaches have said it isn't a big deal.
But I am very interested in figuring out who hired that third party investigative firm. That's very strange.
We'll see what happens. Michigan's president and regents wanting to extend Harbaugh leads me to believe nothing major is happening.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
Disguised with CMU gear and sunglasses at night to spy on Michigan State.
Nothing to see here… Everyone does that!
Disguised with CMU gear and sunglasses at night to spy on Michigan State.
Nothing to see here… Everyone does that!
What benefit did that give Michigan though? Why wouldn't he just record from the stands? How did he get in without CMU knowing?
And yeah, Stallions should be fired.
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You are all going to be very, very disappointed
Will be interesting to find out who hired that third party investigative firm though. A certain Cryin' Ryan has a brother with an investigative firm... Hmmm...
It doesn’t take an investigative firm to see him on the sidelines next to the defensive coaches
It doesn’t take an investigative firm to see him on the sidelines next to the defensive coaches
Right, he was the sign stealing guy. It's his job.
OSU has one too. He made his Venmo private right after this all broke. Maybe we'll hire an investigative firm and repay the favor
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Pathetic response. I actually expect better of you.
Tressel got what he deserved - not for the tats part, but for misleading the NCAA and not informing the feds + them about an ongoing investigation. Had he done that, it would be fine.
There is evidence of a systemic issue here, and all you have is to gaslight.
There is no evidence linking this up the chain throughout Michigan. There is evidence of a rogue agent. If there is evidence of a systemic issue, I'll change my response.
Of course this is all about sign stealing, which everyone does. Advance scouting the NCAA has said in the past provides minimal competitive advantage. What Stallions was getting is basically what is availably publicly. Plenty of coaches have said it isn't a big deal.
But I am very interested in figuring out who hired that third party investigative firm. That's very strange.
We'll see what happens. Michigan's president and regents wanting to extend Harbaugh leads me to believe nothing major is happening.
There is no evidence linking this up the chain throughout Michigan. There is evidence of a rogue agent. If there is evidence of a systemic issue, I'll change my response.
Of course this is all about sign stealing, which everyone does. Advance scouting the NCAA has said in the past provides minimal competitive advantage. What Stallions was getting is basically what is availably publicly. Plenty of coaches have said it isn't a big deal.
Scouting is scouting, sign stealing THAT far in advance, especially with today's technical abilities to confirm and process in real time, is too much. Which is why this type of in person "scouting" has been illegal for over 30 years now.
No, unless (it is) a coordinated effort, it is not just "available publicly". The guy bought tickets on his own account and digitally sent them to other accounts. Whom did they go to if this guy was so 'rogue?'. If you'd like I'd be more than happy to purchase the both of us tickets and you can do try to decipher signals in real time and use them. One of two, here or there, absolutely. But enough where your coach, who floats around .500 career in one score games at half is now .1000 the past couple seasons? Nah. Plus the spread covers, which hilariously enough I even noticed last year. Up until Rutgers, UM was a money train for me. I kept rolling those bets over weekly when they posted, was it six or seven straight?
No low level functionary has access to the coaches in-game at nearly any other school like this. What's even more funny, is this guy is on the sidelines giving Harbaugh real time information.
At no point did he think to himself "gosh, wonder how captain low-on-the-totem got this"? Which is wilful ignorance, an even worse sin.
What benefit did that give Michigan though? Why wouldn't he just record from the stands? How did he get in without CMU knowing?
And yeah, Stallions should be fired.
Seriously? You've never had anyone close to you that knew football or was military?
If you've probed for Intel, you have to verify the integrity of said Intel. There has to be boots on the ground at some point. There are alleged contacts that Stallions had at CMU. And even if they weren't used, think it's difficult to forge a university pass off of your current sideline one and then laminate the CMU credentials over it? Most gameday security would look and go "alright, seems fine".
Back to the Intel. Let's say you've gathered two years worth of signals on teams. You have the ability to travel, no far mind you, no ticket cost if you get in on tbe sidelines, which removes logistical concerns and no digital of paper trail record of buying tickets. Now you get to see what calls Sparty runs, and if they've changed. Now you get to see if you have gaps in your Intel that formed over the course of an off-season. Where it's now reasonable to infer you'll have gaps elsewhere from other coaches And what on? (Formation signals, personnel, protection, etc etc)
Doesn't take much to piece together how that sounds like law enforcement agencies sharing data and Intel. The accusation is logically sound, which is exactly why fuck wad was on the sideline trying to be incognito.
He's a program clinger, and an expendable one, hence the plausible deniability. Whatever he gathered, and those that helped him, was absolutely used by the UM coaches and there's evidence to more than just politely suggest as much.
If this guy is rain man and remembering everything he sees from the sidelines? Fine with it, he'll be one of maybe a handful of people on planet earth with that capability. In which case, fuck getting him in trouble, pay him double and bring him to tOSU. But he isn't, or this network of advanced recon would be unnecessary.
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Pathetic response. I actually expect better of you.
Tressel got what he deserved - not for the tats part, but for misleading the NCAA and not informing the feds + them about an ongoing investigation. Had he done that, it would be fine.
There is evidence of a systemic issue here, and all you have is to gaslight.
There is no evidence linking this up the chain throughout Michigan. There is evidence of a rogue agent. If there is evidence of a systemic issue, I'll change my response.
Of course this is all about sign stealing, which everyone does. Advance scouting the NCAA has said in the past provides minimal competitive advantage. What Stallions was getting is basically what is availably publicly. Plenty of coaches have said it isn't a big deal.
But I am very interested in figuring out who hired that third party investigative firm. That's very strange.
We'll see what happens. Michigan's president and regents wanting to extend Harbaugh leads me to believe nothing major is happening.
There is no evidence linking this up the chain throughout Michigan. There is evidence of a rogue agent. If there is evidence of a systemic issue, I'll change my response.
Of course this is all about sign stealing, which everyone does. Advance scouting the NCAA has said in the past provides minimal competitive advantage. What Stallions was getting is basically what is availably publicly. Plenty of coaches have said it isn't a big deal.
But I am very interested in figuring out who hired that third party investigative firm. That's very strange.
So what you are telling us is you have no idea what is goin on?
Michigan hired them.
We'll see what happens. Michigan's president and regents wanting to extend Harbaugh leads me to believe nothing major is happening.
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There is no evidence linking this up the chain throughout Michigan. There is evidence of a rogue agent. If there is evidence of a systemic issue, I'll change my response.
Of course this is all about sign stealing, which everyone does. Advance scouting the NCAA has said in the past provides minimal competitive advantage. What Stallions was getting is basically what is availably publicly. Plenty of coaches have said it isn't a big deal.
But I am very interested in figuring out who hired that third party investigative firm. That's very strange.
So what you are telling us is you have no idea what is goin on?
Michigan hired them.
We'll see what happens. Michigan's president and regents wanting to extend Harbaugh leads me to believe nothing major is happening.
Michigan hired a firm, to investigate Michigan, to provide info to the NCAA, without telling Michigan, that Michigan already had.
And this makes sense.... Why?
(Multiple sources have said this has nothing to do with Weiss)
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I find it hard to believe that Harbaugh and other key staff members knew nothing about stallions and this operation.
Any functional football mind should realize these efforts were excessive and against the rules.
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I find it hard to believe that Harbaugh and other key staff members knew nothing about stallions and this operation.
Any functional football mind should realize these efforts were excessive and against the rules.
I find it hard to believe that Harbaugh and other key staff members knew nothing about stallions and this operation.
Any functional football mind should realize these efforts were excessive and against the rules.
What evidence do you have that Harbaugh knew?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I find it hard to believe that Harbaugh and other key staff members knew nothing about stallions and this operation.
Any functional football mind should realize these efforts were excessive and against the rules.
What evidence do you have that Harbaugh knew?
What evidence do you have that Harbaugh knew?
Reminiscent of Tressel…the sooner you move on the better. You will attract a top candidate that will recruit better talent
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It doesn’t take an investigative firm to see him on the sidelines next to the defensive coaches
Right, he was the sign stealing guy. It's his job.
OSU has one too. He made his Venmo private right after this all broke. Maybe we'll hire an investigative firm and repay the favor
Right, he was the sign stealing guy. It's his job.
OSU has one too. He made his Venmo private right after this all broke. Maybe we'll hire an investigative firm and repay the favor
Highly doubtful, OSU doesn’t need to signals, to beat other teams. Meatchicken, OBVIOUSLY does
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