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  • OrionO Orion

    I also think we're stuck with Wills for this year and next.  We don't have a 1st round pick this coming draft.  And I doubt that we try and trade for one.

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    @orion said:

    I also think we're stuck with Wills for this year and next.  We don't have a 1st round pick this coming draft.  And I doubt that we try and trade for one.

    No doubt.   If anything we will try to add picks like we have. We may try to move up some on draft day, but it won't be for a 1st rounder.  Maybe try to move back in to the 3rd, or something like that.

    On draft day we may move up some

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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      Yeah as that hopefully they can fix in so many holes in filling in.

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        @orion said:

        I also think we're stuck with Wills for this year and next.  We don't have a 1st round pick this coming draft.  And I doubt that we try and trade for one.

        No doubt.   If anything we will try to add picks like we have. We may try to move up some on draft day, but it won't be for a 1st rounder.  Maybe try to move back in to the 3rd, or something like that.

        On draft day we may move up some

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        @ballpeen said:

        We may try to move up some on draft day, but it won't be for a 1st rounder.

        Right.  At least not high enough into the 1st round where LT's are usually found.

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          We will restructure deals if we have to but we are like Korsou said in a win now mode.  This regime especially is in a win now mode.  If Wills is being a lazy slob on the line a buffer or replacement will be looked at-  I believe it.  We are replacing Wills not Joe Thomas.
           

          don’t think for one second we have to wait for 2025 for a first round pick.  This thread is filled with players that are 1st round busts Dillard and Jonah Williams but other guys like Bakhtiari 4th round finds.  
           

          Im sure we will be looking second day or early third day in the 2024 draft too.

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          @sdbacker80 said:

           but other guys like Bakhtiari 4th round finds.  

          What a buffering, froze up, TV screen mess, Amazon Prime was in my area watching last nights game.. Anybody else have the same issues? worse I've seen

          Anywho, T David Bakhiari was put on a minimum of 4 weeks IR before the game with repeated knee issues.. Any trade value left just took a risky hit 

          edit 10-6.. done for the year, requires knee surgery. 

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            OT Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos

            Given how dominant the Browns defense has been under new coordinator Jim Schwartz, this team should be making moves to contend this season. Trading for Garett Bolles, whom B/R's Kristopher Knox recently identified as a trade candidate, would certainly qualify.

            The 1-3 Broncos should be willing to shed veteran salaries to get draft picks, as they clearly need to rebuild. The struggles of left tackle Jedrick Wills Jr. and the season-ending injury of right tackle Jack Conklin could necessitate the addition of another tackle in Cleveland.

             
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              Media is seeing the need too. Whether it can be filled realistically is another question. But by Christ, I hope we don't see Jed in orange and Brown next season, and preferably before!

              https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-jedrick-wills-replacement-options-2023/

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                3 weeks away from deadline.. one of numerous trade market rumors...   https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-trade-catalog/

                every 2023 NFL trade. value/grade    https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-trade-tracker-updates-grades/

                early reports had LB Jordan Kunaszyk returning for Ravens week.. could return to practice during bye week? any need for keeping another PK on PS?

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                  Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  With our QB situation still iffy, an opportunity to further beef-up the D?

                  https://twitter.com/dsleon45/status/1727033815422603304

                  Joining the Browns at this stage sounds like a "football decision" to me!

                  https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1727044985588265070

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                    That'd be a no on Leonard even before you look at his contract.  Maybe, if he gets back to being the player he was before the surgeries.. today he's a liability on the field and would take a roster spot from someone who can help

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                      hat Duron Harmon brings to the Browns roster

                      Duron Harmon adds depth after the Rodney McLeod injury

                      By Matt_Wilson  Nov 23, 2023, 9:05am EST  
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                      The Cleveland Browns took another big injury hit on Sunday when it was announced that safety Rodney McLeod will miss the rest of the season due to a biceps injury. In order to help soften the blow, the team announced that they have signed 3-time Super Bowl Champion defensive back Duron Harmon.

                      Harmon is an experienced safety who has had a lot of success in the league over the years and actually had one of his best seasons in 2022 with the Las Vegas Raiders.

                      2022 Statistics

                      Tackles: 86

                      Pass Deflections: 5

                      Interceptions: 2

                      Forced Fumbles: 2

                      PFF Grade: 72.3

                      Harmon will provide the Browns with a lot of the experience and leadership ability in the secondary that they lost with McLeod. He’s another versatile safety who has played all over the field for defenses and can be utilized in the same ways that Jim Schwartz used McLeod.

                      He had a 77.6 coverage grade in 2022, which is far above average for the strong safety position. Harmon’s instincts and ball skills have allowed him to consistently be in the right spot when it comes to navigating inside of passing lanes and diagnosing route combos.

                      Though he’s not necessarily known for his ability to stop the run, he's more than capable of doing so as evidenced by his production in that category over the past three seasons for the Lions, Falcons, and Raiders.

                      In addition to the Harmon signing, Cleveland has a couple of in-house options at their disposal as well to help with the Rodney McLeod damage control:

                      D’Anthony Bell

                      Bell is currently one of the team’s core special teamers, specifically on the punt and kickoff units. He’s a bigger, box-type safety who’s naturally an excellent tackler and does a great job against the run while showing adequate coverage ability as well. He started a couple of games for the Browns in 2022 but has only participated in 4% of total defensive snaps so far in 2023.

                      Ronnie Hickman

                      Hickman is currently in his rookie season after signing with the team as a UDFA after the 2023 NFL Draft. He had a very successful and productive preseason with the team that resulted in him making the 53-man active roster heading into the regular season. He has shown a lot of improvement in pass coverage since being signed and is happy to step up and make stops against the run. He has participated in 19% of total defensive snaps this season and had a particularly good showing against Pittsburgh last weekend.


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                        WR Kenny Golladay

                        If the Browns are going to find some success on offense down the back stretch, it's going to be because of the supporting cast around Thompson-Robinson. The rookie has some positive traits, but he's only going to be as good as the players around him. Right now, the Browns are really banged up at receiver, and the healthy players outside of Amari Cooper are relatively young.

                        The outisde options are limited, but Kenny Golladay has a 1,000-yard season on his resume. He was a bust with the New York Giants, but he'd at least be worth a workout right now.

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                          OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                          So Duron Harmon brought his hat to the Browns roster.  I've got one with Snoopy on it.  🙂

                          ...Rodney McLeod was a pleasant surprise this year.  Of course he's gotta get hurt though...

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                            So Duron Harmon brought his hat to the Browns roster.  I've got one with Snoopy on it.  🙂

                            ...Rodney McLeod was a pleasant surprise this year.  Of course he's gotta get hurt though...

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                            @orion said:

                            So Duron Harmon brought his hat to the Browns roster.  I've got one with Snoopy on it.  🙂

                            ...Rodney McLeod was a pleasant surprise this year.  Of course he's gotta get hurt though...

                            McLeod had some really bad plays when Thornhill was out, one giving up a touchdown iirc. Just a total misread in the wrong direction.

                            Will miss the depth, but not a game changer or anything,

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                              The Cleveland Browns have signed QB Jeff Driskel to the active roster off the Cardinals' practice squad. To make room on the roster, the team has waived DE Sam Kamara.

                              Driskel (6-4, 235) is in his eighth NFL season out of Louisiana Tech. Originally a sixth-round draft pick by the 49ers in 2016, Driskel has appeared in 23 career games with 11 starts with the Bengals (2018), Lions (2019), Broncos (2020) and Texans (2021-22). He has completed 216 of 365 career passes for 2,228 yards with 14 touchdowns. He has added 384 rushing yards with three scores. He made two starts for the Texans in 2022 and has spent the majority of this season the Cardinals' practice squad.

                              ....Now that we've qualified for the playoffs they want to make sure they have somebody better than PJ Walker at their disposal.  They're getting serious now.

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                                Bernie Kosar was talking about kicking the tires on Jarvis Landry.  I wonder if he’s still in shape.  

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                                  Bernie Kosar was talking about kicking the tires on Jarvis Landry.  I wonder if he’s still in shape.  

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                                  @sdbacker80 said:

                                  Bernie Kosar was talking about kicking the tires on Jarvis Landry.

                                  With EJ Moore taking a seizure on the field after his head got smashed into the turf...and Tillman not being a good route runner and thus only getting 1 or 2 catches a game...we're weak at WR.  

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                                    @sdbacker80 said:

                                    Bernie Kosar was talking about kicking the tires on Jarvis Landry.

                                    With EJ Moore taking a seizure on the field after his head got smashed into the turf...and Tillman not being a good route runner and thus only getting 1 or 2 catches a game...we're weak at WR.  

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                                    @orion said:

                                    With EJ Moore taking a seizure on the field after his head got smashed into the turf...and Tillman not being a good route runner and thus only getting 1 or 2 catches a game...we're weak at WR.  

                                    We've always been thin at WR, but I'm not sure adding another guy who can't get open would do much, even if we all really like Landry. 

                                    Tillman is definitely a work in progress, and I've pretty much written off David Bell. The Browns definitely need to add to the WR unit this offseason. 

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                                      @orion said:

                                      With EJ Moore taking a seizure on the field after his head got smashed into the turf...and Tillman not being a good route runner and thus only getting 1 or 2 catches a game...we're weak at WR.  

                                      We've always been thin at WR, but I'm not sure adding another guy who can't get open would do much, even if we all really like Landry. 

                                      Tillman is definitely a work in progress, and I've pretty much written off David Bell. The Browns definitely need to add to the WR unit this offseason. 

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      We've always been thin at WR, but I'm not sure adding another guy who can't get open would do much, even if we all really like Landry. 

                                      Tillman is definitely a work in progress, and I've pretty much written off David Bell. The Browns definitely need to add to the WR unit this offseason. 

                                      Whatever happened Watkins?  I thought he was impressive in the preseason for whatever that's worth.  Is he still with us?

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        We've always been thin at WR, but I'm not sure adding another guy who can't get open would do much, even if we all really like Landry. 

                                        Tillman is definitely a work in progress, and I've pretty much written off David Bell. The Browns definitely need to add to the WR unit this offseason. 

                                        Whatever happened Watkins?  I thought he was impressive in the preseason for whatever that's worth.  Is he still with us?

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                                        @flugel said:

                                        Whatever happened Watkins?  I thought he was impressive in the preseason for whatever that's worth.  Is he still with us?

                                        Practice squad, I believe. 

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                                          @flugel said:

                                          Whatever happened Watkins?  I thought he was impressive in the preseason for whatever that's worth.  Is he still with us?

                                          Practice squad, I believe. 

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Practice squad, I believe. 

                                          He reminds me of Kennan McCardell in the sense of making some strong 1st impressions but we never really tapped McCardell's talent and skillset before he went off to Jax and became a Pro Bowl WR. We had him from 92-95 (finally getting 5 starts in 95 and reps in other games for 56 rec 709 yards and 4 TDs).  I've love to see what a QB like Flacco could get out of Watkins. Play his ass at Cincy - the Rats are absolutely bullying a very timid and intimidated Dolphins team today so we might as well let Moore and Cooper heal.

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