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  • Early game here local is Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Early game here local is Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati. 

    If the Steelers lose to another backup QB the tears of Pittsburgh fans will solve the global water crisis, and I’m all about it.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Early game here local is Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati. 

    If the Steelers lose to another backup QB the tears of Pittsburgh fans will solve the global water crisis, and I’m all about it.

    @bbedward said:

    If the Steelers lose to another backup QB the tears of Pittsburgh fans will solve the global water crisis, and I’m all about it.

    There is no water crisis... All the Water that is here.. has always been here.. Water eventually reconstitutes itself... Water crises are created.. All the water that has been here.. Will remain here until the planet dies..

  • Early game here local is Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Early game here local is Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati

    The numbers on that game are  PIT (+2½)-at- CIN.  The Over is 36½   if you are interested from CBS Sports.

    And we  BROWNS  fans are probably rooting for the   ▪︎ Cincinnati Ben-gals ▪︎   on the early game ..... until the   main event    at 4:05 pm our Cleveland  BROWNS  -at-  the  Denver Broncos  to follow.

    GO BROWNS !

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Early game here local is Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati

    The numbers on that game are  PIT (+2½)-at- CIN.  The Over is 36½   if you are interested from CBS Sports.

    And we  BROWNS  fans are probably rooting for the   ▪︎ Cincinnati Ben-gals ▪︎   on the early game ..... until the   main event    at 4:05 pm our Cleveland  BROWNS  -at-  the  Denver Broncos  to follow.

    GO BROWNS !

    @mjp28 said:

    The numbers on that game are  PIT (+2½)  -at- CIN.  The Over is 36½  if you are interested from CBS Sports.

    And we  BROWNS  fans are probably rooting for the   ▪︎ Cincinnati Ben-gals ▪︎   on the early game ..... until the   main event    at 4:05 pm our Cleveland  BROWNS  -at-  the  Denver Broncos  to follow.

    GO BROWNS !

    Absolutely rooting for the Bengals. 

    If they win and the Browns win today, we'd be up a full two games on both teams. 

  • @bbedward said:

    If the Steelers lose to another backup QB the tears of Pittsburgh fans will solve the global water crisis, and I’m all about it.

    There is no water crisis... All the Water that is here.. has always been here.. Water eventually reconstitutes itself... Water crises are created.. All the water that has been here.. Will remain here until the planet dies..

    @nickers said:

    There is no water crisis... All the Water that is here.. has always been here.. Water eventually reconstitutes itself... Water crises are created.. All the water that has been here.. Will remain here until the planet dies..

    Well yea, humans (in the US at least) just migrate by the millions to the desert which strains the water table. And freshwater becomes salinated. Not sure how salty stooler tears are, so maybe they won’t help the water problems much.

  • I live in Denver and will be going to the game today! First time for me at Mile High 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm hungover and still pissed.      Russel Wilson is a bi-racial angel, but rip his fucking head off.  

    That's all I've got for right now.  

    The game yesterday pretty much played out how I expected.

    Ohio State has to do better on both their lines, in recruiting and in training/preparation. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The game yesterday pretty much played out how I expected.

    Ohio State has to do better on both their lines, in recruiting and in training/preparation. 

    I don’t know if it is that easy.  Our HC did a Georgia Part 2 before the half…and is far too passive in these games. We couldn’t execute a simple game plan when we needed to- we’ve thrown wrinkles at them for decades and executed better.

  • I'm hungover and still pissed.      Russel Wilson is a bi-racial angel, but rip his fucking head off.  

    That's all I've got for right now.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'm hungover and still pissed

    yep But on the bright side of things. bad things happen in 3's and the third for me was last night when johnathon smith quit the oregon state job to coach msu. So that secures a Victory today

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The game yesterday pretty much played out how I expected.

    Ohio State has to do better on both their lines, in recruiting and in training/preparation. 

    I don’t know if it is that easy.  Our HC did a Georgia Part 2 before the half…and is far too passive in these games. We couldn’t execute a simple game plan when we needed to- we’ve thrown wrinkles at them for decades and executed better.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I don’t know if it is that easy.  Our HC did a Georgia Part 2 before the half…and is far too passive in these games. We couldn’t execute a simple game plan when we needed to- we’ve thrown wrinkles at them for decades and executed better.

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

    I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I don’t know if it is that easy.  Our HC did a Georgia Part 2 before the half…and is far too passive in these games. We couldn’t execute a simple game plan when we needed to- we’ve thrown wrinkles at them for decades and executed better.

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

    I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus

    Luke Fickell damnit. also what ties did day have to columbus ?  dude looks like a wet rat

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    @dutch-oven said:

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus

    Luke Fickell damnit. also what ties did day have to columbus ?  dude looks like a wet rat

    @syd said:

    Luke Fickell damnit. also what ties did day have to columbus ?  dude looks like a wet rat

    Day was Urban's OC.

    Mike Vrabel for Ohio State head coach is going to get a lot of run, IMO. 

    I guarantee no one would call a Mike Vrabel OSU team "soft". 

  • @syd said:

    Luke Fickell damnit. also what ties did day have to columbus ?  dude looks like a wet rat

    Day was Urban's OC.

    Mike Vrabel for Ohio State head coach is going to get a lot of run, IMO. 

    I guarantee no one would call a Mike Vrabel OSU team "soft". 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Day was Urban's OC.

    Mike Vrabel for Ohio State head coach is going to get a lot of run, IMO. 

    I guarantee no one would call a Mike Vrabel OSU team "soft". 

    but beyond that ? I mean he has no tie's to the school right ?

  • and ya i could see Vrabel or Fickel

  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    Day was Urban's OC.

    Mike Vrabel for Ohio State head coach is going to get a lot of run, IMO. 

    I guarantee no one would call a Mike Vrabel OSU team "soft". 

    but beyond that ? I mean he has no tie's to the school right ?

    @syd said:

    but beyond that ? I mean he has no tie's to the school right ?

    No, he played football at New Hampshire, then moved his way up the coaching ladder at places like Temple and Boston College.

    I'm not ready to fire the guy, but they need to reconsider how they recruit, especially along the lines. 

    I have a feeling things are going to get real interesting for that team up north in the next three to five months, too. We'll see. 

  • i was just looking at Fickel's resume.It is impressive and he is a ohio guy,,,,,,fire day 

  • If I’m firing him I’d have something better in mind.  He’s done a decent job in some aspects. 

    Does Fickle or Vrable move the needle from a recruiting, player development, assembling a great staff to in game decision maker.  Is there anyone else?  And think big because I think we could poach a top coach from a great program. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I don’t know if it is that easy.  Our HC did a Georgia Part 2 before the half…and is far too passive in these games. We couldn’t execute a simple game plan when we needed to- we’ve thrown wrinkles at them for decades and executed better.

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

    I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

    I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

    If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

    having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

  • If I’m firing him I’d have something better in mind.  He’s done a decent job in some aspects. 

    Does Fickle or Vrable move the needle from a recruiting, player development, assembling a great staff to in game decision maker.  Is there anyone else?  And think big because I think we could poach a top coach from a great program. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    If I’m firing him I’d have something better in mind.  He’s done a decent job in some aspects. 

    Does Fickle or Vrable move the needle from a recruiting, player development, assembling a great staff to in game decision maker.  Is there anyone else?  And think big because I think we could poach a top coach from a great program. 

    I have a hard time believing just about anyone comes in and recruits better than Day.

    But John Cooper was a very good recruiter too. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

    I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

    If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

    having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

    They can't.

    having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

    I agree. They won with virtual no big "chunk" plays. Ohio State's defense eliminated the big plays that killed them last season, but couldn't get them off the field. The defense has a lot of good, solid players, but lack the superstars (especially at DE like the Bosa brothers and Chase Young) to make the big, momentum-changing play. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

    They can't.

    having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

    I agree. They won with virtual no big "chunk" plays. Ohio State's defense eliminated the big plays that killed them last season, but couldn't get them off the field. The defense has a lot of good, solid players, but lack the superstars (especially at DE like the Bosa brothers and Chase Young) to make the big, momentum-changing play. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Yes.  From Zach Harrison to Sawyer to JTT…these aren’t generational talent guys and may require some scheming up but the interior guys are very talented and have seemingly developed and ascended their recruiting statuses.  We apparently added two blue chip front four guys this recruiting cycle. 
     

    I had more expectations for a guy like Sonny Styles to be placed in spots and used as a big play guy - and I still think this happens soon. 
     

    I can’t honestly say our recruiting has suffered other than a few misses on the offensive line.