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    and ya i could see Vrabel or Fickel

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      @dutch-oven said:

      Day was Urban's OC.

      Mike Vrabel for Ohio State head coach is going to get a lot of run, IMO. 

      I guarantee no one would call a Mike Vrabel OSU team "soft". 

      but beyond that ? I mean he has no tie's to the school right ?

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      @syd said:

      but beyond that ? I mean he has no tie's to the school right ?

      No, he played football at New Hampshire, then moved his way up the coaching ladder at places like Temple and Boston College.

      I'm not ready to fire the guy, but they need to reconsider how they recruit, especially along the lines. 

      I have a feeling things are going to get real interesting for that team up north in the next three to five months, too. We'll see. 

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        i was just looking at Fickel's resume.It is impressive and he is a ohio guy,,,,,,fire day 

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          S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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          If I’m firing him I’d have something better in mind.  He’s done a decent job in some aspects. 

          Does Fickle or Vrable move the needle from a recruiting, player development, assembling a great staff to in game decision maker.  Is there anyone else?  And think big because I think we could poach a top coach from a great program. 

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            @sdbacker80 said:

            I don’t know if it is that easy.  Our HC did a Georgia Part 2 before the half…and is far too passive in these games. We couldn’t execute a simple game plan when we needed to- we’ve thrown wrinkles at them for decades and executed better.

            Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

            I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

            I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

            If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

            having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

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              If I’m firing him I’d have something better in mind.  He’s done a decent job in some aspects. 

              Does Fickle or Vrable move the needle from a recruiting, player development, assembling a great staff to in game decision maker.  Is there anyone else?  And think big because I think we could poach a top coach from a great program. 

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @sdbacker80 said:

              If I’m firing him I’d have something better in mind.  He’s done a decent job in some aspects. 

              Does Fickle or Vrable move the needle from a recruiting, player development, assembling a great staff to in game decision maker.  Is there anyone else?  And think big because I think we could poach a top coach from a great program. 

              I have a hard time believing just about anyone comes in and recruits better than Day.

              But John Cooper was a very good recruiter too. 

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                @dutch-oven said:

                Good point, and I have my doubts on how long he remains in Columbus. 

                I also have doubts how long TTUN is this good, too. 

                If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

                having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                @sdbacker80 said:

                If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

                They can't.

                having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

                I agree. They won with virtual no big "chunk" plays. Ohio State's defense eliminated the big plays that killed them last season, but couldn't get them off the field. The defense has a lot of good, solid players, but lack the superstars (especially at DE like the Bosa brothers and Chase Young) to make the big, momentum-changing play. 

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                  @sdbacker80 said:

                  If they can’t deny these allegations …at the very least the last three years should be erased…the coach should be let go and their should be some punitive damage for next season…scholarship losses and playoff ban. 

                  They can't.

                  having said that, I was impressed how well Michigan executed yesterday and How poorly we executed at times…and we had an interim coach out coach our guy….unacceptable.

                  I agree. They won with virtual no big "chunk" plays. Ohio State's defense eliminated the big plays that killed them last season, but couldn't get them off the field. The defense has a lot of good, solid players, but lack the superstars (especially at DE like the Bosa brothers and Chase Young) to make the big, momentum-changing play. 

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                  S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Yes.  From Zach Harrison to Sawyer to JTT…these aren’t generational talent guys and may require some scheming up but the interior guys are very talented and have seemingly developed and ascended their recruiting statuses.  We apparently added two blue chip front four guys this recruiting cycle. 
                   

                  I had more expectations for a guy like Sonny Styles to be placed in spots and used as a big play guy - and I still think this happens soon. 
                   

                  I can’t honestly say our recruiting has suffered other than a few misses on the offensive line.

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                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                    As long as Jim Schwartz is locked up by the Browns from all other coaching jobs  ?   All's Good !

                    Browns Inactive Report

                    • WR Marquise Goodwin
                    • LB Anthony Walker Jr.
                    • CB Denzel Ward
                    • OL Luke Wypler
                    • DE Isaiah McGuire
                    • DT Siaki Ika
                    • OL Leroy Watson IV

                    The biggest news is that safety Juan Thornhill is active while Walker is inactive.

                    Broncos Inactive Report

                    • S JL Skinner
                    • RB Dwayne Washington
                    • OLB Ronnie Perkins
                    • OLB Thomas Incoom
                    • OL Alex Forsyth
                    • DE Alijah Garcia

                    Washington was questionable due to illness which popped up on Friday.

                    reference..

                    WLB 6 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 40 Adams, Matthew U/Chi 51 Kunaszyk, Jordan SF22        
                    MLB     44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 43 Diabate, Mohamoud CF23    
                    LCB     28 Ford, Mike U/Atl 38 Green III, A.J. CF20        
                    SS 22 Delpit, Grant 20/2 37 Bell, D'Anthony CF22            
                    FS 1 Thornhill, Juan U/KC 33 Hickman, Ronnie CF23 48 McCalister, Tanner CF23        
                    RCB 23 Emerson Jr., Martin 22/3 25 Hailassie, Kahlef W/KC            
                    NB 00 Newsome II, Greg 21/1
                    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      Yes.  From Zach Harrison to Sawyer to JTT…these aren’t generational talent guys and may require some scheming up but the interior guys are very talented and have seemingly developed and ascended their recruiting statuses.  We apparently added two blue chip front four guys this recruiting cycle. 
                       

                      I had more expectations for a guy like Sonny Styles to be placed in spots and used as a big play guy - and I still think this happens soon. 
                       

                      I can’t honestly say our recruiting has suffered other than a few misses on the offensive line.

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                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                      @sdbacker80 said:

                      I can’t honestly say our recruiting has suffered other than a few misses on the offensive line.

                      OSU's inability to run, especially in short-yardage situations, has been a problem for years. 

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                        @mjp28 said:

                        The numbers on that game are  PIT (+2½)  -at- CIN.  The Over is 36½  if you are interested from CBS Sports.

                        And we  BROWNS  fans are probably rooting for the   ▪︎ Cincinnati Ben-gals ▪︎   on the early game ..... until the   main event    at 4:05 pm our Cleveland  BROWNS  -at-  the  Denver Broncos  to follow.

                        GO BROWNS !

                        Absolutely rooting for the Bengals. 

                        If they win and the Browns win today, we'd be up a full two games on both teams. 

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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        Absolutely rooting for the Bengals. 

                        If they win and the Browns win today, we'd be up a full two games on both teams. 

                        PIT 16   CIN 7  with 2:40 left to go.   Boswell just hit a FG.   

                        Barring some miracle this one's over.    Now 16-10.   One score game now.   On side kick coming.

                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                          Pittsburgh got the ball.   Two minute warning.

                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                            The Official ?  - NFL WEEK 12 - CLE (+ 1½) -at- DEN,  Cle Game #11  ?  Nov. 26.  O/U 37½

                            It's been well over 30 years since the Browns vs Broncos trio of AFC Championships, but I still get a visceral reaction to the Browns playing in Denver. 

                            That '87 Championship Game wrecked me. 

                            ■  Well it was sure a big letdown alright  but not like the  1987 major melt down  enough said there.  I don't even remember the score,  enough said there too .....    😮

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                            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            The Official ?  - NFL WEEK 12 - CLE (+ 1½) -at- DEN,  Cle Game #11  ?  Nov. 26.  O/U 37½

                            It's been well over 30 years since the Browns vs Broncos trio of AFC Championships, but I still get a visceral reaction to the Browns playing in Denver. 

                            That '87 Championship Game wrecked me. 

                            ●  OK time to start this thing after a three hour wait !  ●             GO BROWNS !

                            Time to kick this thing off.

                            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                              This game is my personal litmus test. Right now I'm just on the edge of believing that this team can not only make the playoffs, but can actually have as good a chance of any as winning throughout it.

                              A win, in Denver, with how they are currently playing, against all of the ghosts and with all of our injuries and fill in players and I'm fully in, hook, line and sinker.  

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                                As long as Jim Schwartz is locked up by the Browns from all other coaching jobs  ?   All's Good !

                                Browns Inactive Report

                                • WR Marquise Goodwin
                                • LB Anthony Walker Jr.
                                • CB Denzel Ward
                                • OL Luke Wypler
                                • DE Isaiah McGuire
                                • DT Siaki Ika
                                • OL Leroy Watson IV

                                The biggest news is that safety Juan Thornhill is active while Walker is inactive.

                                Broncos Inactive Report

                                • S JL Skinner
                                • RB Dwayne Washington
                                • OLB Ronnie Perkins
                                • OLB Thomas Incoom
                                • OL Alex Forsyth
                                • DE Alijah Garcia

                                Washington was questionable due to illness which popped up on Friday.

                                reference..

                                WLB 6 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2 40 Adams, Matthew U/Chi 51 Kunaszyk, Jordan SF22        
                                MLB     44 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 42 Fields II, Tony 21/5 43 Diabate, Mohamoud CF23    
                                LCB     28 Ford, Mike U/Atl 38 Green III, A.J. CF20        
                                SS 22 Delpit, Grant 20/2 37 Bell, D'Anthony CF22            
                                FS 1 Thornhill, Juan U/KC 33 Hickman, Ronnie CF23 48 McCalister, Tanner CF23        
                                RCB 23 Emerson Jr., Martin 22/3 25 Hailassie, Kahlef W/KC            
                                NB 00 Newsome II, Greg 21/1
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                                Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                @gumby73 said:

                                As long as Jim Schwartz is locked up by the Browns from all other coaching jobs  ?   All's Good !

                                Browns Inactive Report

                                • WR Marquise Goodwin
                                • LB Anthony Walker Jr.
                                • CB Denzel Ward

                                Being without both Ward and Walker hurts us. That said, Newsome can cover for Ward, and having Thornhill back is huge!

                                Go Browns!

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                                  bridgewater vs keenum in the last meeting 

                                  which we won 17 14

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                                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'll make this as simple as possible ?

                                    Any poster wanting DTR benched for PJ Walker ?

                                    maybe added to my long list of ignored gameday posters

                                    Good luck & Go Browns !   

                                    Not your day Donkeys !

                                    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                                      bout time for kick off, see ya at the half

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                                        I'm hungover and still pissed.      Russel Wilson is a bi-racial angel, but rip his fucking head off.  

                                        That's all I've got for right now.  

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                                        @tiamat63 said:

                                        I'm hungover and still pissed. 

                                        Beer flowing freely. Got a feeling I'm going to enjoy this game. Whether I'll have something meaningful to say remains to be seen!

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                                          I'll make this as simple as possible ?

                                          Any poster wanting DTR benched for PJ Walker ?

                                          maybe added to my long list of ignored gameday posters

                                          Good luck & Go Browns !   

                                          Not your day Donkeys !

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                                          Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                          @gumby73 said:

                                          Any poster wanting DTR benched for PJ Walker

                                          That's a hell no Sir! (Flacco in a game or two is another story)

                                          Go Browns!

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