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  • @browns149 said:

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    That was a different era. Starters back then were dominant. They are not even close to that now 

    It’s all about offense now and to some extent relief pitching. 
    A dominant starting pitcher, nowadays, is almost extinct. Drafting one first overall would be a mistake. IMO

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    That was a different era. Starters back then were dominant. They are not even close to that now 

    It’s all about offense now and to some extent relief pitching. 
    A dominant starting pitcher, nowadays, is almost extinct. Drafting one first overall would be a mistake. IMO

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @browns149 said:

    That was a different era. Starters back then were dominant. They are not even close to that now 

    It’s all about offense now and to some extent relief pitching. 
    A dominant starting pitcher, nowadays, is almost extinct. Drafting one first overall would be a mistake. IMO

    Do you really want to compare offense now to offense in the mid 90s - early 2000s?

    I mean, feel free to, but you are going to lose that debate badly.

    But from what I've seen, as of now, it seems more likely that the Gs would take a hitter from what is available in the upcoming draft. Of course, things can change during the coming college season, but it seems like a hitter heavy top of the draft. 

  • @browns149 said:

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    The 90s INDIANS we as scary or more scary than the '29 Yanks   -but-  they did not have a true #1  starter.  And repeatidly could not win game 1,  a tough assignment in playoff baseball.  

    The recent INDIANS were just snakebit.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #14

    And  we're actually   talkin' baseball   in December not just February or March of next year .....

    ......  is that cool or what !   Well  virtually stealing   the  #1 pick   in the MLB Draft will do that.

    I'm still in shock after seeing that tiny Christmas ornament with the tiny   2%   on it, oh yeah.   ?

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #15

    ~          And the  pre- drawing    PRE- ORNAMENT  tree that I was looking for.

                        And here it is !    

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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  • The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

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    @mjp28 said:

    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

  • sydS syd

    @mjp28 said:

    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Well we shall see what the bonus  #1  MLB  Draft  pick brings to the Guardians ....

    ..... but the  #2  MLB Draft pick by the Reds is pretty good too.    A  #1  vs  #2  showdown in 2024 to see who's pick is better,  NICE !    🙂

  • sydS syd

    @mjp28 said:

    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Reds playing AAA teams in Indianapolis next year, are they syd? ?

  • Holy shitballs, this is fantastic (potentially) news!

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Holy shitballs, this is fantastic (potentially) news!

    *Yes,  the morale of this entire  MLB  2024  Draft  story ..... and the repercussions that might go on for this year and maybe for  years (and trades)  to come.   With a clever  FO  and staff  a team like the  Cleveland  GUARDIANS  might do alright.  Especially with an office and a chair for a recently  retired  manager  that will just hang around  in    "an advisory capacity"   just looking for something to do.  Eh ?   Catch my drift ?

    And  the next part,  the (pontentially)  fantastic news,  putting it all together.   Taking the good luck and the pieces and making it work ..... even better !

    Take what happened already ......

    *The  Mets held the seventh-best odds in the 2024 lottery, the Padres 14th and the Yankees 15th, but the twist was they needed to win a top 6 pick in the lottery to avoid having their picks moved back 10 slots because they exceeded a certain luxury tax threshold. And since none of them had a ping-pong ball fall in their favor, they will now pick 19th (Mets), 24th (Padres) and 25th (Yankees).

       ▪︎  Full 2024 MLB Draft order   ●-->   featuring the  *AL Central

    ★  1. Cleveland Guardians ..... an incredible stroke of  GOOD luck to start the 2024 season.
    2. Cincinnati Reds ...... a great pick  BUT  still could not win the state of OH-IO .... lol.
    3. Colorado Rockies <--> Rockies
    4. Oakland Athletics
    ● 5. Chicago White Sox ..... not bad.
    ● 6. Kansas City Royals ...... not bad.
    ● 11. Detroit Tigers ...... still rebuilding.
    ●  21. Minnesota Twins .....  20  picks behind  Cleveland,  and a lot of good picks will go by...... lol.

    ▪︎  Keep on going for the original  PRE-ORNAMENT  Guardians at 2%  long shot chance to #1,  right.

    An incredi-bull  piece of  golden good  luck  for Cleveland.    😁     Like the '83 NFL QB Draft ?  Why not.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    And one more fine piece of this  2024 Draft puzzle,  the original to final draft positions.

    1. Oakland Athletics (18.3%) → ★ Guardians
    2. Kansas City Royals (18.3%) → Reds
    3. Colorado Rockies (18.3%) → Rockies
    4. Chicago White Sox (14.7%) → Athletics,  moved from 1 to 4.  Not huge moves except for CLE and MIN  (the ALC loser.)
    5. St. Louis Cardinals (8.3%) → ▪︎ White Sox,  moved from 4 to 5
    6. Los Angeles Angels (6.1%) → ▪︎ Royals,  moved from 2 to 6.   DET ended up at 11,  not a huge deal.
    7. The Washington Nationals 

  • @syd said:

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Reds playing AAA teams in Indianapolis next year, are they syd? ?

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    @dutch-oven said:

    Reds playing AAA teams in Indianapolis next year, are they syd? ?

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  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    Reds playing AAA teams in Indianapolis next year, are they syd? ?

    image.png.86729d7b726ee5e1876d8a244c8ea793.png

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

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    That is  STILL  one creepy looking mascot !