Browns must consider firing Berry after qb fiasco
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Pretty spot on, although I'd like to add that the continuous search for a QB via FA or the draft hasn't worked with Haslam & his FO team(s) since he bought the Browns. He was desperate. So far, yeah it hasn't worked out. If, and it's a big if, DW can stay healthy, then we will see if it was "worth it."
we'll see. But the pressure will be on in 2024 - the Browns apparently have the toughest schedule.....
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-ravens-steelers-sos-rankings/
#1Cleveland Browns: .547
we'll see. But the pressure will be on in 2024 - the Browns apparently have the toughest schedule.....
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-ravens-steelers-sos-rankings/
#1Cleveland Browns: .547
Definitely tougher but you know how this goes. The rosters of all 32 teams a bit different, injuries, when you face the opponent, etc are factors
Browns' road games are real tough on paper for sure.
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sorry, shirley panties tiamsies, but I don't feel like I have to say "YAY" when everybody says "YAY". We're all delighted when the Browns win.
and I'm busy, and none of us needs your sissy stinking phony permission to post when we want to post.
stop pouting about not getting your fake ego stroked, Shirley Girlieman.
Cal.. Don't argue with a man whose takes his screen name from a Sumerian female dragon entity from a 2000 year old Sumerian text... It is not worth the time and energy... Let the beta cuck kids play amongst themselves in their sterile bubble of fantasy...
Cal.. Don't argue with a man whose takes his screen name from a Sumerian female dragon entity from a 2000 year old Sumerian text... It is not worth the time and energy... Let the beta cuck kids play amongst themselves in their sterile bubble of fantasy...
Funny enough, my handle is an old school gaming reference. We had a group, back in the day, that really helped to bridge the gap between the classic "athletes" vs "nerds" type understanding. Mostly started for Battlefield 2. I hadn't, at the time, done the research, but it was 'team Tiamat' - over team speak pronounced "tie-a-mat". Which was, we were told, Greek for Dragon.
I've kept that handle, in some shape or form, this entire time. It honors the guys I played on the field with, the guys I gamed with, and the guys who I did both with. All the way up and through my time playing at L.E.C.
And as a friendly reminder - you're a 5'6, 140lb middle aged man who didn't have an athletic bone in his body at any point. Pipe down with the "beta" talk.
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Cal.. Don't argue with a man whose takes his screen name from a Sumerian female dragon entity from a 2000 year old Sumerian text... It is not worth the time and energy... Let the beta cuck kids play amongst themselves in their sterile bubble of fantasy...
Funny enough, my handle is an old school gaming reference. We had a group, back in the day, that really helped to bridge the gap between the classic "athletes" vs "nerds" type understanding. Mostly started for Battlefield 2. I hadn't, at the time, done the research, but it was 'team Tiamat' - over team speak pronounced "tie-a-mat". Which was, we were told, Greek for Dragon.
I've kept that handle, in some shape or form, this entire time. It honors the guys I played on the field with, the guys I gamed with, and the guys who I did both with. All the way up and through my time playing at L.E.C.
And as a friendly reminder - you're a 5'6, 140lb middle aged man who didn't have an athletic bone in his body at any point. Pipe down with the "beta" talk.
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you do have an athletic big mouth. You post like you are 4'8", 56 lbs. trying to be darth vader. Just a friendly reminder.
You can tell the fucker he is on ignore and I do not bow down to him... He can kiss my white ass... We have been on this board far longer than he has... Hes the last idiot who should be giving orders to anyone around here... And Steve should becareful who he yields power to... Some people go overboard...
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Watching nickers and calfox console each other's fragile egos on one thread after another is almost touching to see.
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you do have an athletic big mouth. You post like you are 4'8", 56 lbs. trying to be darth vader. Just a friendly reminder.
You can tell the fucker he is on ignore and I do not bow down to him... He can kiss my white ass... We have been on this board far longer than he has... Hes the last idiot who should be giving orders to anyone around here... And Steve should becareful who he yields power to... Some people go overboard...
You can tell the fucker he is on ignore and I do not bow down to him... He can kiss my white ass... We have been on this board far longer than he has... Hes the last idiot who should be giving orders to anyone around here... And Steve should becareful who he yields power to... Some people go overboard...
or what you gonna do poor poor nickers ? you gonna tell him to kill himself like you do on the poli board ? you worthless stooge.
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You can tell the fucker he is on ignore and I do not bow down to him... He can kiss my white ass... We have been on this board far longer than he has... Hes the last idiot who should be giving orders to anyone around here... And Steve should becareful who he yields power to... Some people go overboard...
or what you gonna do poor poor nickers ? you gonna tell him to kill himself like you do on the poli board ? you worthless stooge.
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you do have an athletic big mouth. You post like you are 4'8", 56 lbs. trying to be darth vader. Just a friendly reminder.
You can tell the fucker he is on ignore and I do not bow down to him... He can kiss my white ass... We have been on this board far longer than he has... Hes the last idiot who should be giving orders to anyone around here... And Steve should becareful who he yields power to... Some people go overboard...
Awwwwww. So have you two gone Facebook Official with it yet or....?
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Well, I didn't write the article. I just have had the same feelings on the matter when they signed you know who.
Some of our players will be cap casualties. Like Nick Chubb, for instance. Dammit, four different qb's won with the Browns. The fiasco giant guaranteed contract was stupid, it will hurt the team next year.
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/andrew-berry-firing-deshaun-watson-mayfield/
Browns Must Consider Firing Andrew Berry After Watson Debacle, Mayfield’s Success
Well, I didn't write the article. I just have had the same feelings on the matter when they signed you know who.
Some of our players will be cap casualties. Like Nick Chubb, for instance. Dammit, four different qb's won with the Browns. The fiasco giant guaranteed contract was stupid, it will hurt the team next year.
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/andrew-berry-firing-deshaun-watson-mayfield/
Browns Must Consider Firing Andrew Berry After Watson Debacle, Mayfield’s Success
I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
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Well, I didn't write the article. I just have had the same feelings on the matter when they signed you know who.
Some of our players will be cap casualties. Like Nick Chubb, for instance. Dammit, four different qb's won with the Browns. The fiasco giant guaranteed contract was stupid, it will hurt the team next year.
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/andrew-berry-firing-deshaun-watson-mayfield/
Browns Must Consider Firing Andrew Berry After Watson Debacle, Mayfield’s Success
I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
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I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
You are completely delusional. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin might be one of the best WR duos in the game. Who cares if Godwin is a 3rd rounder? He's an All Pro and Pro Bowler.
You point out Tom Brady played for the Bucs and lost. But you happened to forget about Brady winning the Bucs a Super Bowl. You conveniently left that part out.
Faker Mehfield is who he is. A mediocre QB who chokes in big moments, chokes in the 4th quarter, and chokes in the playoffs against the best teams. Getting 9 wins in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about. Beating an Eagles team who went 1-6 the last seven games is nothing to brag about. The Bucs lost to the Lions because Faker had 2 turnovers and Goff had 0, then Faker choked in the 4th as usual. It's on him, not his o-line.
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I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
Reference, for anyone keeping track at home. This is a thread by Cal, started in September praising Baker Mayfield and that he finally has "receivers who can get open"
I.E. calling the Bucs receivers good and that Baker needed them, something he didn't have in CLE.
But now those same receivers are bad when Tampa loses and Baker throws two costly picks. The first looking oddly similar to the dagger concept he mailed high to Schwartz a couple years ago.
At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
Edit: and if anyone is wondering why I dug this up - I have a fantastic memory and retain/recall things very well. Not to toot my own horn here, but you'll also notice the gambling advice I posted in Cals thread unfolded to the letter. So please, friends, don't forget I accept cash app and Venmo tips should you want to show me a little love for the advice.
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Is Heavy even an actual sports site or are these just opinion pieces?
Not much difference these days.
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This his been a hilarious read
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points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
Reference, for anyone keeping track at home. This is a thread by Cal, started in September praising Baker Mayfield and that he finally has "receivers who can get open"
I.E. calling the Bucs receivers good and that Baker needed them, something he didn't have in CLE.
But now those same receivers are bad when Tampa loses and Baker throws two costly picks. The first looking oddly similar to the dagger concept he mailed high to Schwartz a couple years ago.
At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
Edit: and if anyone is wondering why I dug this up - I have a fantastic memory and retain/recall things very well. Not to toot my own horn here, but you'll also notice the gambling advice I posted in Cals thread unfolded to the letter. So please, friends, don't forget I accept cash app and Venmo tips should you want to show me a little love for the advice.
At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
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You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
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Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
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So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
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At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
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You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
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So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
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You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
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So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
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points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
You are completely delusional. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin might be one of the best WR duos in the game. Who cares if Godwin is a 3rd rounder? He's an All Pro and Pro Bowler.
You point out Tom Brady played for the Bucs and lost. But you happened to forget about Brady winning the Bucs a Super Bowl. You conveniently left that part out.
Faker Mehfield is who he is. A mediocre QB who chokes in big moments, chokes in the 4th quarter, and chokes in the playoffs against the best teams. Getting 9 wins in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about. Beating an Eagles team who went 1-6 the last seven games is nothing to brag about. The Bucs lost to the Lions because Faker had 2 turnovers and Goff had 0, then Faker choked in the 4th as usual. It's on him, not his o-line.
You are completely delusional. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin might be one of the best WR duos in the game. Who cares if Godwin is a 3rd rounder? He's an All Pro and Pro Bowler.
You point out Tom Brady played for the Bucs and lost. But you happened to forget about Brady winning the Bucs a Super Bowl. You conveniently left that part out.
Faker Mehfield is who he is. A mediocre QB who chokes in big moments, chokes in the 4th quarter, and chokes in the playoffs against the best teams. Getting 9 wins in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about. Beating an Eagles team who went 1-6 the last seven games is nothing to brag about. The Bucs lost to the Lions because Faker had 2 turnovers and Goff had 0, then Faker choked in the 4th as usual. It's on him, not his o-line.
Bernie, when he's not Tattle Cal - he's Rain Man. It's not worth your time. Inconvenient truth doesn't count with him.
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sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
*************************************************
You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
********************************
So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here.....
Considering I started making a bit of money on the side that I've tucked away, including being invited to do these sorts of things for a Buckeye Alumni site... I mean, "non productive" isn't what you could label it. Non productive and idle would be knowing jack shit about football, then jumping on here and telling everyone that Myles Garrett is a cancer who should be cut from the team.
Point being, I'd rather spend some extra time and my words hold merit and value then casually whine like a bitch. We have enough effeminates males, yourself included, who do that throughout all walks of life. I've simply chosen a better, far more detailed way.
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and yet, Shirley is terrified of being involved with fantasy football because that would be a risk to his? fake ego. It just keeps getting worse. I don't know if he has dared to do the college bowl mania - he "knows so much about football".....
whatever. lol
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meanwhile:
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/ogbo-okoronkwo-deshaun-watson-cap-casualty/
Browns $19 Million Pass-Rusher Likely Cap Casualty of Deshaun Watson’s Contract
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