Browns must consider firing Berry after qb fiasco
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Well, I didn't write the article. I just have had the same feelings on the matter when they signed you know who.
Some of our players will be cap casualties. Like Nick Chubb, for instance. Dammit, four different qb's won with the Browns. The fiasco giant guaranteed contract was stupid, it will hurt the team next year.
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/andrew-berry-firing-deshaun-watson-mayfield/
Browns Must Consider Firing Andrew Berry After Watson Debacle, Mayfield’s Success
Well, I didn't write the article. I just have had the same feelings on the matter when they signed you know who.
Some of our players will be cap casualties. Like Nick Chubb, for instance. Dammit, four different qb's won with the Browns. The fiasco giant guaranteed contract was stupid, it will hurt the team next year.
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/andrew-berry-firing-deshaun-watson-mayfield/
Browns Must Consider Firing Andrew Berry After Watson Debacle, Mayfield’s Success
I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
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Well, I didn't write the article. I just have had the same feelings on the matter when they signed you know who.
Some of our players will be cap casualties. Like Nick Chubb, for instance. Dammit, four different qb's won with the Browns. The fiasco giant guaranteed contract was stupid, it will hurt the team next year.
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/andrew-berry-firing-deshaun-watson-mayfield/
Browns Must Consider Firing Andrew Berry After Watson Debacle, Mayfield’s Success
I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
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I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
You are completely delusional. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin might be one of the best WR duos in the game. Who cares if Godwin is a 3rd rounder? He's an All Pro and Pro Bowler.
You point out Tom Brady played for the Bucs and lost. But you happened to forget about Brady winning the Bucs a Super Bowl. You conveniently left that part out.
Faker Mehfield is who he is. A mediocre QB who chokes in big moments, chokes in the 4th quarter, and chokes in the playoffs against the best teams. Getting 9 wins in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about. Beating an Eagles team who went 1-6 the last seven games is nothing to brag about. The Bucs lost to the Lions because Faker had 2 turnovers and Goff had 0, then Faker choked in the 4th as usual. It's on him, not his o-line.
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I honestly thought this was a headline midseason. Mayfield's success, when he blew another game winning drive? I was watching the playoff game and told my wife when he took over that "game's over, Mayfield always panics in these scenarios" and two plays in bingo. Watson who is the only other QB to defeat Baltimore at home this season on a broken shoulder and one leg. Berry assembled a roster that could withstand the loss of Nick Chubb of the 26% IR this season. I get tired of clickbait and hot takes that poses as sport journalism these days.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
Reference, for anyone keeping track at home. This is a thread by Cal, started in September praising Baker Mayfield and that he finally has "receivers who can get open"
I.E. calling the Bucs receivers good and that Baker needed them, something he didn't have in CLE.
But now those same receivers are bad when Tampa loses and Baker throws two costly picks. The first looking oddly similar to the dagger concept he mailed high to Schwartz a couple years ago.
At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
Edit: and if anyone is wondering why I dug this up - I have a fantastic memory and retain/recall things very well. Not to toot my own horn here, but you'll also notice the gambling advice I posted in Cals thread unfolded to the letter. So please, friends, don't forget I accept cash app and Venmo tips should you want to show me a little love for the advice.
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Is Heavy even an actual sports site or are these just opinion pieces?
Not much difference these days.
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This his been a hilarious read
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points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
Reference, for anyone keeping track at home. This is a thread by Cal, started in September praising Baker Mayfield and that he finally has "receivers who can get open"
I.E. calling the Bucs receivers good and that Baker needed them, something he didn't have in CLE.
But now those same receivers are bad when Tampa loses and Baker throws two costly picks. The first looking oddly similar to the dagger concept he mailed high to Schwartz a couple years ago.
At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
Edit: and if anyone is wondering why I dug this up - I have a fantastic memory and retain/recall things very well. Not to toot my own horn here, but you'll also notice the gambling advice I posted in Cals thread unfolded to the letter. So please, friends, don't forget I accept cash app and Venmo tips should you want to show me a little love for the advice.
At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
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You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
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Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
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So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
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At this point, the only one talking to Cal and NOT making fun of him is Nickers. But that's because there's some serious sexual tension between those two.
sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
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You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
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So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
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You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
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So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
points well taken. The bucs, though, had their oline dominated. The bucs have to add a dynamic wr to their wr group. They have Evans, a 2014 first round pick, and Godwin, a 2017 3rd pick. And Palmer? He was a 6th round pick the last draft. In the playoffs, that isn't strong enough to go against an outstanding defense. Peyton Manning, one of the GOATS, threw 4 interceptions once in a playoff game. Hell, the Bucs had Tom Brady for three years. TOM BRADY ! they got to the playoffs, too.
But lost. That tells the tale, to me.
You are completely delusional. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin might be one of the best WR duos in the game. Who cares if Godwin is a 3rd rounder? He's an All Pro and Pro Bowler.
You point out Tom Brady played for the Bucs and lost. But you happened to forget about Brady winning the Bucs a Super Bowl. You conveniently left that part out.
Faker Mehfield is who he is. A mediocre QB who chokes in big moments, chokes in the 4th quarter, and chokes in the playoffs against the best teams. Getting 9 wins in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about. Beating an Eagles team who went 1-6 the last seven games is nothing to brag about. The Bucs lost to the Lions because Faker had 2 turnovers and Goff had 0, then Faker choked in the 4th as usual. It's on him, not his o-line.
You are completely delusional. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin might be one of the best WR duos in the game. Who cares if Godwin is a 3rd rounder? He's an All Pro and Pro Bowler.
You point out Tom Brady played for the Bucs and lost. But you happened to forget about Brady winning the Bucs a Super Bowl. You conveniently left that part out.
Faker Mehfield is who he is. A mediocre QB who chokes in big moments, chokes in the 4th quarter, and chokes in the playoffs against the best teams. Getting 9 wins in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about. Beating an Eagles team who went 1-6 the last seven games is nothing to brag about. The Bucs lost to the Lions because Faker had 2 turnovers and Goff had 0, then Faker choked in the 4th as usual. It's on him, not his o-line.
Bernie, when he's not Tattle Cal - he's Rain Man. It's not worth your time. Inconvenient truth doesn't count with him.
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sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
*************************************************
You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
********************************
So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here.....
Considering I started making a bit of money on the side that I've tucked away, including being invited to do these sorts of things for a Buckeye Alumni site... I mean, "non productive" isn't what you could label it. Non productive and idle would be knowing jack shit about football, then jumping on here and telling everyone that Myles Garrett is a cancer who should be cut from the team.
Point being, I'd rather spend some extra time and my words hold merit and value then casually whine like a bitch. We have enough effeminates males, yourself included, who do that throughout all walks of life. I've simply chosen a better, far more detailed way.
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and yet, Shirley is terrified of being involved with fantasy football because that would be a risk to his? fake ego. It just keeps getting worse. I don't know if he has dared to do the college bowl mania - he "knows so much about football".....
whatever. lol
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meanwhile:
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/ogbo-okoronkwo-deshaun-watson-cap-casualty/
Browns $19 Million Pass-Rusher Likely Cap Casualty of Deshaun Watson’s Contract
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I guess Watson needs to figure out if he wants to be like Peyton Manning was 20 years ago and gobble up so much of the team's salary cap that nobody else can be signed and, therefore, he under achieve every year OR he needs to take a page out of Tom Brady's play book and restructure his contract to benefit the team so that Super Bowls can be won.
He can't be so tone deaf that he doesn't recognize this. We still have a week and a half left in the 2023 season and he's already shaping up to be the biggest pariah of the 2024 season.
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sorry Shirley, but your ego is twirley.
Evans and Godwin are excellent. Two excellent wr's isn't enough when you get to the playoffs.
You must have an inferiority complex because you never made it to the NFL brag, brag, troublemaking brag.
*************************************************
You conveniently left out the fact that:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/55975394
"
Already widely considered the greatest NFL player of all time, Brady decided to leave New England in the off-season for a new challenge and was lured to Tampa Bay, whose only previous Super Bowl win came in the 2002 season.
He reportedly urged the Bucs to bring in former Patriots team-mates Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown, as well as Leonard Fournette, and the trio shared Tampa Bay's four touchdowns as they eased home in Super Bowl 55 after leading 21-6 at half-time."
********************************
So, yeah, Brady led the Bucs to a Superbowl alrighty.
WITH GRONK, BROWN and FOURNETTE, WHO SHARED THE TAMPA BAY TD's !!!
So, yes, you are an ass. I said the Bucs needed an ADDITION to their wr room.
Tom Brady wanted Gronk and Brown added for the very reason I SAID - they needed at least another star wr added to the mix, and Gronk at TE is more a TE retired that you pretend you were in hs.
Maybe you never made it to the NFL because you were too stupid.
Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
Actually when I have the time I do indeed enjoy reading through the film breakdown. Details matter in this game so what the Browns are doing right and wrong does matter on Sundays.
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Bingo.. His ego is so huge he can't see past his own rhetoric... He needs a new hobby.. Sitting there breaking down film is non productive and he spends a hell of a lot time on here..... Once the breakdown is viewed ,, a day later no one gives a fuck and it's forgotten... It's like a mundane piece of music you have to learn because it's part of a process to get into something deeper... Once you master certain techniques.. The nomenclature becomes meaningless and your own natural ability takes over.. And you can move on to greater things... It's about priorities.. Your family.. Health.. Doing right by others... Any Monkey butt can sit down and break down film.. There are more important things in life than trying to impress people with your limited Football knowledge... In the end.. No one gives a shit!
Actually when I have the time I do indeed enjoy reading through the film breakdown. Details matter in this game so what the Browns are doing right and wrong does matter on Sundays.
Actually when I have the time I do indeed enjoy reading through the film breakdown. Details matter in this game so what the Browns are doing right and wrong does matter on Sundays.
That's fine.. but still.. it's not the end all be all.. But after a day or so.. it becomes moot and you move on to the next game... Can't sit and dwell on past failures.. You are doomed to repeat yourself...
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@tiamat63 said:
The crux of my point is this though - despite you probably 25 years my senior, you're having a younger person imparting you wisdom. None more important than to remind you that the phrase has *ALWAYS* been...
major erroneous you have made. Knowledge is not wisdom. You know a lot of stuff you are interested in, sure. But your arrogance is keeping you from growing as a wise person.
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1. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing Albert Einstein posited that the more you know, the more humble you become. Socrates was quoted to say, "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." There's a pattern there. From humility, we realize that we don't know everything. Then we become curious. We ask questions. We learn.
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This thread is still going?
We've just made the playoffs for the 2nd time this century. Let's fire everyone who got us here!
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I don't want anybody fired. This is the most stability the organization has had in three decades from a front office and coaching staff perspective, and the best roster since the 80s.
I don't know how the flow of things go in the locker room. In front of the cameras and on social media, guys are always happy their teammates get paid.
Here's what I do know, Watson has been paid $65,021,000 the last two seasons and has played 12 games. He's slated to make $54,993,000 in 2024, 2025 and 2026.
I don't want animosity to grow in the locker room because of his contract vs what the team is able to do as a result of that contract.
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meanwhile:
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/ogbo-okoronkwo-deshaun-watson-cap-casualty/
Browns $19 Million Pass-Rusher Likely Cap Casualty of Deshaun Watson’s Contract
meanwhile:
https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/ogbo-okoronkwo-deshaun-watson-cap-casualty/
Browns $19 Million Pass-Rusher Likely Cap Casualty of Deshaun Watson’s Contract
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